My Choice For Best Games To Play At MG Casinos

Vegasbum

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I just read the recent thread(s) about MG casinos not paying out. The thing I constantly read are the lack of free spins and then the low amount returned when you do get free spins.

Well I have also noticed the choice of games most of the people who are unhappy play, and I believe that is the problem....game choice.

I play online alot...and trust me I mean alot. I test games in free play for hours and hours trying different aproaches ( number of lines, amount per line, varying bet size ect). I track many things until I get a feel for the best approach for each slot. Yes i know they are random and anything can happen but believe me when I say certain slots need to be played differently.

The number 1 thing is game choice. When most people who are losing mention the games they play I understand why they lost. Some games are just vacuums and will suck your money dry. Example of a few games that most lose on...Brea kDa Bank, the thunderstruck series, Mega Moola series and Lord of The Rings. I have run so many trials on these games ( and others) and there is just no beating them. Ya sure you can have some huge wins and win on occasions but the big wins are few and far between.

This has been my best year by far on MG. I remember January 2010 as an unbelievable month. I had more withdrawls ( all at least 300 dollars and more) than most years in total.

I only play 25 games regularly and a few others on occasion. Here are the only slot games I play:

Bearly Fishing..the bonus spins usually pays 4 times your bet
Bobs Bowling Bonanza...wilds show up alot. Small wins but many wins
Cabin Fever.. solid game with lots of wilds and free spins
Celtic Crown...2 different bonuses that frequently appear
Days Of The Tsar...ok slot
Dragons Loot...lots of free spins
Elements...same as Cabins Fever slot
Fearless Frederick... bonus appears often
Flying Circus..lots of free spins when hot
JellyFish Jaunt..just like the slot and free spins
Jolly Jester...bonus round is great and can happen alot
Lady Of the Orient...2 different ways to get bonus round
Lucky Eggsplorer...lots of small wins
Mad Dash...great new game. Low variance with many wins. Lots 5 of a kind and free spins
Mark Of Medusa...Same as JellyFish Jaunt
Monster Meteors...lots of wining combinations
Moonshine..low variance with lots of free spins and wilds
Path Of The Penguin...many free spins and wins
Polar Pioneers..scatters pay well and give you second chance for free spins
Porky Payout... can be a hot slot with lots of bonus chances
Quest For Beer...2 different bonuses that hit frequently
Shiver Me Feathers..scatters pay well and happen alot
Stunt Pilot...Lots of free spins and good payouts
The Adventures Of Galactic Golpher..good payoffs and frequent bonus spins
Witch Dr...many small wins


There are a few others I do play on occasion but not often.

I know many will disagree with my list but it works for me. I don't waste my time or money on certain games. Those who know me realize I often play a single line but I also play 9 lines alot...but no more than 9 lines. You can't play every line and expect to profit. If you notice the casinos have been releasing most new games that require you to play all the lines ( the 243 ways games for example). They do this for a reason...it sucks more money from you and makes you feel you get more wins. Of couse these wins are small and don't normally cover your bet. So my advice is just play 9 lines.

I also play alot of online video poker. I often go to Las Vegas and ONLY play VP while there.

I certainly don't win all the time but this year has been my best. I am disciplined in my bets and I have NEVER reversed a withdrawl.

This post is just my personal opinion. I know there are other games people win at. I just could not get enough wins over time to justify those slots. I also change games alot
 

funeral979

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I don't play most of the games on your list, but i'll bet you are pretty much spot on. Bearly Fishing has always been nice to me. And Cabin Fever/Elementals are good ones as well, I just find them a bit boring so dont play them alot.

The whole thing with Microgaming slots is very depressing though. Normally I don't buy in to the theory that everything is tighter now...but MG slots are VERY different to me this year....and you are probably right...I am playing the wrong games......but they USED to be the ones that I enjoyed.

I have made about 10 deposits in the last month at one particular MG casino. Mostly played slots, with a little bj and vp thrown in. I ONLY played 8 slots (the ones that are usually in my rotation)....I would guess about 300 or so spins on each one. On all 10 of those deposits and roughly 2500 spins, I got 3 bonus rounds. And its not JUST this casino...they are like this. It takes a few deposits just to get ONE bonus round.

Anyways, the slots that I played are:

Alaskan Fishing
Isis
Ladies Night
Centre Court
Deck the Halls
Ho Ho Ho
Star Appeal
Pure Platinum

I know most of those are really high variance, but still. Normally Bearly Fishing is in my rotation but have done so well on it lately, decided to give it a rest.

I have always played Centre Court regularly since it came out. Used to be free spins could be expected once every 100-300 spins. In the past year....thousands of spins played...I have gotten the free spins twice. This is over this entire year across 3 different MG casinos. Crazy!

Since Silver Fang came out, I have gotten the free spins exactly twice. I have always loved this game because of the 'potential' But seriously....twice?? I remember it took me over 1000 spins to get the free spins the first time. I was so excited. The free spins paid ZERO. All I got was the initial scatter pay. i almost threw my laptop across the room.

Maybe ill try your list if there is a next time:thumbsup:
 

Vegasbum

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Funeral, you make a good point when you said you find some games boring. That is very true. If you are not having fun on a game then why play it.
HO HO HO is a game i have played alot in the past. It does have the bonus round appear alot. I just could never make money as the payoffs were small.

The high variance are just that. If you hit you stand to win big but hitting is the problem. Another game that pays when it hits is "The Great Galaxy Grab". I had a few big wins but went too long between wins.

But I hear you and thanks for the reply
 

Mirvel

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I just read the recent thread(s) about MG casinos not paying out. The thing I constantly read are the lack of free spins and then the low amount returned when you do get free spins.

Well I have also noticed the choice of games most of the people who are unhappy play, and I believe that is the problem....game choice.

I play online alot...and trust me I mean alot. I test games in free play for hours and hours trying different aproaches ( number of lines, amount per line, varying bet size ect). I track many things until I get a feel for the best approach for each slot. Yes i know they are random and anything can happen but believe me when I say certain slots need to be played differently.

The number 1 thing is game choice. When most people who are losing mention the games they play I understand why they lost. Some games are just vacuums and will suck your money dry. Example of a few games that most lose on...Brea kDa Bank, the thunderstruck series, Mega Moola series and Lord of The Rings. I have run so many trials on these games ( and others) and there is just no beating them. Ya sure you can have some huge wins and win on occasions but the big wins are few and far between.

This has been my best year by far on MG. I remember January 2010 as an unbelievable month. I had more withdrawls ( all at least 300 dollars and more) than most years in total.

I only play 25 games regularly and a few others on occasion. Here are the only slot games I play:

Bearly Fishing..the bonus spins usually pays 4 times your bet
Bobs Bowling Bonanza...wilds show up alot. Small wins but many wins
Cabin Fever.. solid game with lots of wilds and free spins
Celtic Crown...2 different bonuses that frequently appear
Days Of The Tsar...ok slot
Dragons Loot...lots of free spins
Elements...same as Cabins Fever slot
Fearless Frederick... bonus appears often
Flying Circus..lots of free spins when hot
JellyFish Jaunt..just like the slot and free spins
Jolly Jester...bonus round is great and can happen alot
Lady Of the Orient...2 different ways to get bonus round
Lucky Eggsplorer...lots of small wins
Mad Dash...great new game. Low variance with many wins. Lots 5 of a kind and free spins
Mark Of Medusa...Same as JellyFish Jaunt
Monster Meteors...lots of wining combinations
Moonshine..low variance with lots of free spins and wilds
Path Of The Penguin...many free spins and wins
Polar Pioneers..scatters pay well and give you second chance for free spins
Porky Payout... can be a hot slot with lots of bonus chances
Quest For Beer...2 different bonuses that hit frequently
Shiver Me Feathers..scatters pay well and happen alot
Stunt Pilot...Lots of free spins and good payouts
The Adventures Of Galactic Golpher..good payoffs and frequent bonus spins
Witch Dr...many small wins


There are a few others I do play on occasion but not often.

I know many will disagree with my list but it works for me. I don't waste my time or money on certain games. Those who know me realize I often play a single line but I also play 9 lines alot...but no more than 9 lines. You can't play every line and expect to profit. If you notice the casinos have been releasing most new games that require you to play all the lines ( the 243 ways games for example). They do this for a reason...it sucks more money from you and makes you feel you get more wins. Of couse these wins are small and don't normally cover your bet. So my advice is just play 9 lines.

I also play alot of online video poker. I often go to Las Vegas and ONLY play VP while there.

I certainly don't win all the time but this year has been my best. I am disciplined in my bets and I have NEVER reversed a withdrawl.

This post is just my personal opinion. I know there are other games people win at. I just could not get enough wins over time to justify those slots. I also change games alot

simply the fact that you think it really would matter what game you pick says it all... you have no clue........ you know what it would mean if your story over the games should be true?
dont you think that if you got 2 games or 200 with all 96% payout proven by w/e they all claim..... it cant be true one slot pays more than 96% and another one less?
 

Vegasbum

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So Mirvel you think if slots at a certain casino pay 96%, that mean every slot pays exactly 96%. If you believe this then you are wrong.
 

taysh075

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Mmmm you definately have a point Vegasbum. I must admit that I tend to play the same 5-6 games most of which are high variance. I have had some luck on a few deposits, but also bust out fairly regularly. I might try some of the games on your list. I think we also just get favourites and get excited when we do get one of those really nice wins (over 100 x our bet). That tends to happen more on the high variance but takes way more tries.:p
 

Mirvel

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So Mirvel you think if slots at a certain casino pay 96%, that mean every slot pays exactly 96%. If you believe this then you are wrong.

its not about the exact %..............
but there are some regulations about the min % payout.(depending on where the provider is located or what aproval they have)
so it cant be true u get games that give u less than that % its as simple as that.
question is min % of WHAT?
try to find an awnser on that... i already know the awnser......

They all can pay big time and they all can take for weeks/months in a row
to say there is a list of games that wil give you always a win is simply not true
the games of MG are so complex(huge reels) that if you would ask lots of players to make a list of games that give them the most no list would be the same.

for example hes talking over bearly fishing....
i played that game for well over a year........
i had 5 spins in a YEAR on bearly fishing that was worth playing for
325 on a 0.75 bet(during free spins)
2x 125 on a 1.25 bet
2x 30 on a 75 bet.
thats it after a year playing

bobs bowling bonanza? never had a win bigger than 30 credits.....(on 60.90,1.20 and 1.50 bet)

celtic crown? 1 win of 50 on 0.50..... was the first spin ever... never had a thing again.

Jolly Jester..... NOT ONE reasonable win stopped playing after a few months.

Lady Of the Orient... had the bonus round 5 times in 30 spins
did not get much and that was 8 months ago never had a thing again.....

jellyfish haunt... give me a few times the free spins til i thougt to raise my bet
did not get the free spins for 900 spins than i got 10x my bet in the spins since that i hardly ever get the free spins on a bet bigger than 0.50 0.75
(i get them if i play 25 or 50 ct)

cabin fever..... gave me the free spins 6-7 times in 100 spins the first day i played it since that 12 months ago i had the free spins 2-3 times again....
never had a big win

mad dash had the free spins 2 times since it came out and i play it on a regular base..... no win above 10x bet so far......

mark of medusa had the free spins a few times i think 40x my bet best result i ever had

moonshine...... you get i believe 15 or 18 fields you can pick from if u get the bonus round..... 2 are a stop the rest is a extra free spin or multiplier
hit the stop 5 times in a row in the first pick.... 3free spins at a x1 multiplier.... thats as low as it gets..... 5 times in a ROW?
but i had a few good wins 7 months ago......

dragonloot gave me lots of free spins indeed in a year only 2 good wins but lots of free spins.......40x4 60x3 75x2 are some of the spins/multipliers i had

Ladies Night gave a few nice free spins 100x bet 2 times btb... 4 months ago... never had a good win again avarage after the free spins is 10-20x bet

the rest of the games hes showing did not give me much thats why i dont play them much..

i HAD good results on some other games...... and most players wil also have other results on other games....

He started this topic saying we should blaim ourselves for the games we pick
thats not true.

MG=DECEPTION and MISLEADING
 

3mptyseat

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wow

A)
MG=DECEPTION and MISLEADING

@Mirvel:I might add, "The reply above is a little misleading. And a touch deceptive. You have a thesis, no doubt. But you have no proof and every example you give is over such a small sample, it means nothing. I just don't understand how this 'proves' anything save for a possibility that you make exaggerated claims with minimal support and zero evidence. Show me the play smart stats on 10-50k spins and then you might be able to see some patterns.

I know in poker hands, the stat gurus like to compare 100,000's of hands before feeling comfortable declaring established patterns. And given that many of these slot games have a dozen or more different icons on 5 reels that can pop up, with 20-100 lines being played, the variance is significant enough to suggest that 100,000's of spins might still lead to incorrect conclusions.

Saying that you hit 5 wins of whatever multiplier over a year means very little also. I have played at casino-share for roughly 3 years. I played "wealth spa" and 'scoop the cash' both on my first day there, and also recently; so it could be said that I have played both for 3 years. I have only had one bonus round token on "wealth spa" in that time period, and I can't count how many 'roll the dice' bonus rounds I have had on "scoop...". I have played "wealth spa" less than 1000 spins. And I have played "scoop..." nearly every session I visit Casino-Share.

So I guess I just get frustrated bc I understand that you want to contradict the OP and make ur point. Which is great. But then you back it up by saying that certain games,

B)
pay out at "96%" and other less?....it cant be true one slot pays more than 96% and another one less?

And then you finish with a ?. I am so confused. Are you asking.?(<---question mark, bc, yes, I was asking if ur asking) Because when you say things like,

C)
you have no clue

It sure sounds like you are making a statement. Here is a statement from me in response to quote A) from above: Of freaking course! Over a sample period this is almost exclusively true and I am quite sure, that random being random, and variance being variant, that nearly every slot pays out differently over any given period of time than any other slot.
 

Nate

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i usually play:

Lord of the Rings
Thunderstruck2
Avalon
Santa Paws
Centre Court
Reel Strike
Mermaid Millions
Cash Splash (Progressive Video Slot)
Isis

In the PAST I used to play:

Thunderstruck
Tally Ho
Ladies Night
Spring Break
Good to Go (And it's variant - Slipped my mind)

All of which are high variance - Had some spectacular wins on the above slots but they eat more then they pay.

TS2 is one of my favourites - But the payout somehow does not compare to LOTR. Best hit i had there was about 2.5k whilst LOTR was about 10-11k. When i have the bankroll, i usually play bigger bets so the hits are not on a low wager...

i decided to try a low bet the other day and i regretted it - Got the FS in LOTR and it paid about $400 on a 90c bet... Ah well... Better than nothing. I have plenty of hits in the region of 2-3k when i play. I never save them considering i am playing $15-$20 a spin. If i hit about 5k, I save them.

Apart form the 5x Wilds i saw posted here, has anyone had decent returns on LOTR? - What happens when the entire paytable turns gold and when you reach the last notch after the 25 Free spins?

Nate
 

Mirvel

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get anoyed because i atack MG?
i say it as it is.
i think the problem is i cant explain the things as i would like in english since i use another language daily...
i dont judge over microgaming over what happend past weeks or months
first time i played micromgaming was 6-7 yrs ago than i did not play for 2 yrs
and i played a lot past 4 yrs.
i judge over at least 100.000 maybe even more spins on the games i like/played past years..... u need over 3.000.000 to cover all spins on most games
I am a programmer.
i develope pokergames/some casinogames/minigames/ and my 2 favourites slots/videoslots for 13 years now. i created over 100 slots.
so i like to believe i know a little more than most players...
i can create any slot/videoslot/pokergame/cardgame/dicegame/minigame you want and i can proof that (graphics not always included
graphics like thunderstruck2 or LOTR is simply way to much work.)
friend of a friend showed me and explained to me how MG works. he knows their software he cracked microgaming long time ago.....i had nothing to do with that i did not even know he told me this recently after i told a friend of him i played a lot and LOST a lot at microgaming past year.
my experience as programmer combined with the new knowledge about MG and the amount of time/money i used to play at MG are more than enough info to come to a conclusion.
and that conclusion is not in favour of MG.
at first i also thought they where the one to trust but something changed past 1-2 yrs.
if you would have had any knowledge over videoslots and how the software works that in this case MG uses.
You would know the games speak for themselves.
I dont say there are no winners at MG because there are.
especially webmasters do very well at MG...........wonder why...
i say its based on deception and they mislead their players.
and i really dont care if you like that or not.
i dont care if ur stupid enough to spend the money you gotta work for (maybe ur a thief i dont know)
on a casinosoftware that is based on deception and misleads their players.
that is your choice....
and if you wanna atack me on what i type and how i do it you might wanna try it in my language. see how you wil do........
the fact that you talk over little dumb things like that saying you take it personal what i say over MG... wonder why...

MG=DECEPTION and MISLEADING.
 

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I make up a word...can u find it?

friend of a friend showed me and explained to me how MG works. he knows their software he cracked microgaming long time ago.....i had nothing to do with that i did not even know he told me this recently after i told a friend of him i played a lot and LOST a lot at microgaming past year.
my experience as programmer combined with the new knowledge about MG and the amount of time/money i used to play at MG are more than enough info to come to a conclusion.
and that conclusion is not in favour of MG.

Lets just say there is one nanogram of truth to this. U have seen this proof? Share it with the forum? BC otherwise its conjecture and nothing more. BTW, I think ur english is remarkable for a second language.

PS:
i dont care if ur stupid enough to spend the money you gotta work for (maybe ur a thief i dont know)

Classy comeback. Show us the proof. There are winners at MG casinos, so if its not random, these winners are just chosen for some longterm trap? Ur posts + ur logic = deception and affront (Ur calling me dumb and u cant even support ur reasons why. I call that silly!)
 

Vegasbum

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Mirvel I am not going to argue with you. You have your opinion and I have mine. I never said you will win all the time playing any of the slots in my list. I just said certain slots (high varience) will be much tougher on your bankroll. You can win/lose on any slot, everyone knows that. My data is also over 1000s and 1000s of spins.
There is no way I sit at a slot and say play 9 lines at 10 cents a line and spin 500 spins waiting for a bonus or big hit but some people do this. My system of play is much different than most people and I never really went into this.

Have I figured out what slot is going to hit...of course not. Do I know inside info on certain slots..nope. All I know is that certain slots suck your money quicker than others. That is a fact I have seen on my own research.

Read the post from Nate...it says EXACTLY what I am saying about certain slots
 

funeral979

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LADIES NIGHT!!!!!!!:confused: you must be joking I play this on tourney the worst paying out game ever.

I didn't say I played Ladies Night and the rest on my short list because I found them to have the highest return. I play them because I enjoy them the most.

That being said, being a US player, I find Ladies Night to be the best paying of the Thunderstruck clones that I can play.
 

blacklabrador

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I didn't say I played Ladies Night and the rest on my short list because I found them to have the highest return. I play them because I enjoy them the most.

That being said, being a US player, I find Ladies Night to be the best paying of the Thunderstruck clones that I can play.

I agree, Ladies night has been very good to me as well.
 

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Apart form the 5x Wilds i saw posted here, has anyone had decent returns on LOTR? - What happens when the entire paytable turns gold and when you reach the last notch after the 25 Free spins?

Nate
I think you mean Thunderstruck II, don't you?

I haven' seen anyone get all the achievements yet, but I believe the consensus of opinion is... nothing happens.
I certainly wouldn't go chasing it, unless you've already been lucky enough to hit both 5 scatters and 5 wilds - because the chances of getting those have got to be in the once in 100,000 - 150,000 spins region (educated guess based on it being 1 in 146,667 on TS1).

When you get to the last notch on the 25 spins, nothing also happens - it just stays there and you can pick any of the free-spin features each time you get the bonus.

KK
 

Mirvel

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Lets just say there is one nanogram of truth to this. U have seen this proof? Share it with the forum? BC otherwise its conjecture and nothing more. BTW, I think ur english is remarkable for a second language.

maybe that is because i am a programmer?
I just have a hard time telling my story in english so its understandable for all.

PS:
Classy comeback. Show us the proof. There are winners at MG casinos, so if its not random, these winners are just chosen for some longterm trap? Ur posts + ur logic = deception and affront (Ur calling me dumb and u cant even support ur reasons why. I call that silly!)

"dumb" was sarcasm, i play as well? so i am the donkey here since i claim to know some things.


I never said there where no winners at MG.
since when does DECEPTION mean NO winners?
a casino/software provider with no winners won't last that long......
the KEYWORD is not IF they have winners but HOW/WHEN they win/lose.

RANDOM? i never said it is not random....
it is random in a controlled environment that is what i say.
and some side efects that come along with their controlled random anoy the crap outta me lately.

proof?
well i wil ask him if he still has it. it was aprox 3 yrs ago so...
if not i wil ask him to tell me exactly how he got it.
since he used to be a top h(cr)acker you can understand the way he got it is not really legal........(he is a good boy now since he found the lord)
However if he explaines to me how he exactly got it, than you can go and ask MG themselves if there was such a security issue yes or no aprox 3 yrs ago that made it possible what he did.
It is not possible anymore, i asked him a year ago if he had copy's of new games and he told me MG fixed the bug.
if MG gives you a awnser and it is yes or most likely they won't say no or yes, but tell you a long dumb story with no awnser(a bit(0/1) like they do in live chat) than u might go and wonder how he knew......

proof could be provided by analizing anomaly's.
An anomaly is any occurrence or object that is strange, unusual, or unique. It can also mean a discrepancy or deviation from an established rule, trend, or pattern.
It is going to be a lot of work to create a piece of software like that
and since im not payed to do so and i have a life besides gambling......
its not really my priority to create such a script.

Few examples you could check:
(acording to microgaming i am the only one with this problem.)
You get disconnected without any reason while you are stil connected to the internet all other programs work fine and MG telling you there are no issues it must be your own network/router or other programs creating this problem.
tried it all and nothing seems to help. i asked other players here if they experience the same problem see other topic..... anwser YES?
how can that be?
what does that mean? well at first i did not know.
but now i THINK i know.
Keep track of when you got disconnected for a while.
did you get any wins or scatters while you where playing and after u reconnected u did not?(99% chance u did).(0.5% chance its exactly the other way round)(0.5% no reason known)

Reels:
not sure if this goes for the new games ROYAL FEAST and SANTA'S LAME RIDE.

They pretty much always stop in the same order during regular play 1,2,3,4 and 5.
Pretty much always. what does that mean? why not always that is much easyer to program? it wil look weird for the players and variable reel settings wil increase chances of errors especially in a live stream connection that needs protocols(for example to identify package's length/position's etc) to work properly.
why would you do that? thats weird.....
again look at WHEN it happens. keep track for a while and you wil know.

never experienced that scatters where forced to apear on the reels?
or you thought you saw a reel stop on a certain symbol but almost like magic it all of a sudden stopped 1-2 position's lower?(it stil wil apear as random.....)
and did you not notice it wil happen most of the time on the same moment u thought u get the bonus/spins or a nice win?(this sometimes also goes for the reels that stop in a diff order)

now its likely some gonna say there are several reasons why this can occur.
True, as a programmer i know there are more reasons.
and i know "most" of the reasons(thnx to others)..... that is why i think i can say that in this case they do not aply or they do not explain the behaviour you see at MG.

Strange thing is after complaining for a while against MG over this issue i noticed on the new games that the reels there seem to be retarded
they sometimes stop whenever and however they want.
I noticed also that ALL games have had an update at the same time as the new games where released.
i really wonder if the behavior of the games is chanced also.(could be i am paranoia)
That we wil know soon enough.


i asked players if they experience some of this also in a other topic......... and on the first 3 questions asked there i got a YES from other players. read it, i say...
MICROGAMING CLAIMED I WAS THE ONLY ONE with issues like that.


DECEPTION:
DECEPTION: Are acts to propagate beliefs that are not true, or not the whole truth.
 
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