My Apology to the Mini-Vegas Group and this Forum

CountByte

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On the 5th of January 2008, I made a post in this section about my concerns that Vegas Country Casino had taken my deposit, then locked my account. See this post for full info -> http://www.casinomeister.com/forums...ues/22008-progress-vegas-country-casino.html .

After not hearing from them for over 3 weeks, I have now been informed that I have violated a forum rule where I have been accused of making a chargeback of a deposit to a on-line casino that is a member of the Mini-Vegas Group. This happened in May of 2004 according to the Group.

In early 2005, I filed for and received a divorce, citing many reasons, one being my wife's excessive on-line gambling habit.

I am NOT telling you this as an excuse, but simply some background.

I take FULL REPSONSIBILITY for this 'charge-back' of $100 to a casino that is a member of the Mini-Vegas Group. I have offered to reimburse them the amount they claim I owe in FULL, even tho I feel I too am a victim, as an account was opened and money charged, then rescended, in MY name, without my knowledge.

What I wish to do in this post is to offer MY sincere Apologies to the Mini-Vegas Casino Group AND to the members of this Forum and to MaxD and Brian for the above mentioned post. I AM NOT an intentional abuser of any sort and firmly believe that 'if you want to play, you should pay, and not make attempts to avoid your debts".

I am SORRY for what has happened and sincerely hope The Mini-Vegas Casino Group and the MEMBERS and OPERATORS of this forum will forgive me for what is now painfully apparent to me that I should have been less trusting and more attentive to what was being done in my name in the past. I know I have learned from this experience and wont make that mistake again.


Sincerely,

Daniel G.
 
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oldtrvlagt

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That was a very honest thing to do...too many times people let things go when they are in the wrong (knowingly or unknowingly as in your case):thumbsup:
 

winbig

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Yep, it's a good thing to do. Thanks for the update.

Still, this doesn't explain why it took them almost a month to let you know this....

I know the feeling about ex's debts. Long story..lol
 

Casinomeister

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Your candor is refreshing. Thanks for setting things straight.
 

kakata

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I know the feeling about ex's debts. Long story..lol



Me too..........I have 3 ex's .....lol:oops::cool:
 

vinylweatherman

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Well, actually, Daniel didn't breach ANY rules, it was a CRIMINAL act by his ex that lead to the problem. With ID fraud rife, this could happen to ANYONE, and online casinos need to realise this, and ensure that players are kept properly informed if it seems that someone is using their ID online.
I am surprised that the casino did not try to contact Daniel back in 2004 over the original chargeback, as had they done so he would have been able to sort it out then, and now would be aware that this issue could cause problems with any casinos he played at in the future, and that he would need to clear this with support BEFORE making any deposits, as each group would have a different policy on how they would treat this.

We have MANY fraudsters who are caught for using someone elses ID's to make multiple accounts and bonus claims, so there are an equally large number of people who's ID's have been used in this manner, and were these people to start to gamble online, they would find out the hard way about this.

A number of TV documentaries have shown how blindingly easy it can be to pose as someone else, and get enough of their personal details to convince government departments to accept they are that other person, and to get hold of Passports, Driver's Licences, Benefits, Bank accounts, and CREDIT CARDS in their name - and who is better placed to pull this off than someone's EX!
 

winbig

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Thanks for understanding.

And Yes, I am wondering how many other Sites I might run into this problem in the future.. <sigh>

You might be best off if you were to approach the casino before depositing & signing up with them. That way if/when it comes to cash out, there's no problems.

I'm sure if you sent them the proper documents, there shouldn't be any problems; as long as it's not a rogue outfit. :thumbsup:
 

thelawnet

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:confused:

That thread doesn't have anything to do with approaching the casino before signing up and depositing....I think it's pretty clear that the OP isn't welcomed at the MV group anymore ;)

Looks to me like they've asked him to post this in order that he gets paid.

That's my reading.

But of course I wouldn't expect him to say that.

I can't imagine anyone else would grovel so much about a debt that wasn't even his otherwise.
 

Casinomeister

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Looks to me like they've asked him to post this in order that he gets paid...

...I have now been informed that I have violated a forum rule where I have been accused of making a chargeback of a deposit to a on-line casino that is a member of the Mini-Vegas Group. This happened in May of 2004 according to the Group...
After CountByte submitted his PAB, it turned out that he had a charge back in his records at one of the casinos in this group. On the surface, this is player fraud which is grounds for expulsion from this forum. When I confronted Countbyte with this, he explained what had happened, and then he made his posting. This was purely on his accord and had nothing to do with the casino.

Just because someone apologizes doesn't mean there is a payoff involved. :D
 

acepedro45

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Lately there have been several people who have admitted their mistakes after posting on the forum.

In the gibbering, spam filled world of internet message boards, it's refreshing to see a place like CM where intelligent, open and honest dialogue can take place.

When people are willing to be accountable for their words, it vastly improves the quality of the discussion.
 
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