Multiple Entries In A Tournaments Is NOT Considered Cheating?!?!

Roanan

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In my 'Cheating' threads a common theme seems to be people who are using their accounts on different MGS skins to enter the same tournament multiple times.


There was an analogy made regarding 'skins':

Playing from a different skin is the same as entering a casino from a different door wearing a different colored shirt.


According to the manager of an accredited casino, this is NOT considered cheating.


I completely disagree.

What's the difference between having multiple seats in the same slots tournament and having multiple seats at a poker table?


Anything that gives the player an unfair advantage is cheating.

Wouldn't you agree?
 

silcnlayc

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When I used to play these tournies, I was always wondering why I was allowed only one entry from all the sites I belonged to. I felt this was not fair. I pay to play at multiple places , so I should be allowed to play from those places, no?? Just because they are all linked doesn't mean you should be penalized from all the sites you actually play at, should one?

So, I am of two minds on this..I would think it would be fair to allow one entry per casino account from all casinos...where this was not allowed before during my tourney days..I think it is nice to see this though..Just my thoughts..

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GGW Laurie

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I play at 6 different MG casinos in the free roll tourneys and really its been very nice, different from where you see the same winners time and time again(not naming casino).

Is it ok for me to be playing all these tourneys? I have won a few times, no more than 10.00 but it sure is fun competing against hundreds if not thousands in that 5 min time frame.

I always just use my name in my alias, just want to make sure im not doing anything wrong by playing in multi casinos tourneys...................laurie
 

love2winalot

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Hiya: It is only cheating if it is stated in the T&C that it is not allowed. If the T&C state that it is allowed, then a player with only 1 account may want to choose a tourny someplace else.

hehehe, the Guy at the poker table just keeps raising you, and the other 4 players at the table are doing the same thing. "Friggen Jerks", you say to yourself, as you go all in, and so did everyone else.......................Then you realised YOU were those other 5 players, and had been playing against only yourself for the last hour................;)
 

Roanan

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As I have mentioned before, I came into the 'gambling industry' via the poker side of things.

In the online poker world, it is ABSOLUTELY considered cheating if any player registers for the same tournament with multiple accounts, even if each is from a different skin.

What's the difference between two people working together and exchanging information and a player having two entries in the same tournament.

Is this still not a form of collusion?

A tournament is a tournament. Poker, slots, hockey, tiddly-winks, etc.

Does the player NOT have an unfair advantage by claiming two (or more) seats?

I realize that the fault with this is entirely Microgaming's. Their changes have allowed this to occur, but it is still unfair.

I believe a final decision and resolution to this matter needs to be determined.

If this is going to be allowed, then it needs to be stated publicly (including the reasons why it is NOT considered cheating) so that all players can be aware that they may enter the same tournament from different skins.

Personally, I believe that it should NOT be allowed and should be stated as such.
 

bernynhel

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As I have mentioned before, I came into the 'gambling industry' via the poker side of things.

In the online poker world, it is ABSOLUTELY considered cheating if any player registers for the same tournament with multiple accounts, even if each is from a different skin.

What's the difference between two people working together and exchanging information and a player having two entries in the same tournament.

The difference is precisely this: In poker, two people working together can let one another know which cards they are holding, creating an advantage over other players at the table. This can be done simply by players seated at the same "table" in an online poker tournament via telephone. In MG tournaments, there is no opportunity to gain a similar advantage.

Is this still not a form of collusion?

Unless there is a definition of collusion that I am unaware of, one that does not require the participation of at least two or more parties who are in agreement with one another for the purpose of defrauding another party or parties, in a word, no.

A tournament is a tournament. Poker, slots, hockey, tiddly-winks, etc.

Does the player NOT have an unfair advantage by claiming two (or more) seats?

A player would have an unfair advantage if the same opportunity for multiple seats were not available to every other player. However, this is not the case as such a limitation no longer exists for MG tournament entrants.

I realize that the fault with this is entirely Microgaming's. Their changes have allowed this to occur, but it is still unfair.

I believe a final decision and resolution to this matter needs to be determined.

If this is going to be allowed, then it needs to be stated publicly (including the reasons why it is NOT considered cheating) so that all players can be aware that they may enter the same tournament from different skins.

Personally, I believe that it should NOT be allowed and should be stated as such.

Whatever it is, it can be done at MG as of only recently, by design, by MG.

When MG changed their tournament software to start prompting players to establish a new playername at every MG site where they had not previously entered a tournament, as opposed to greeting each player by a single, long established, playername, no matter which MG site he was logged into, what do you figure they thought would happen? Do you think they were surprised that players were rushing around to all the MG sites they could think of where they hadn't entered a tourney before? Wouldn't you think, by now, that someone at MG would have noticed the big surge in tournament players registering for tournaments? Or at least a post or two of yours, given the volumes you've written?

And don't hold your breath for any public statement on the matter from MG. As long as they're watching their tournament revenues go up, they're going to maintain their "poker face", I'll wager.
 

rockycatt

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then they should advertise that is what can be done one entry per skin

:confused:
ps i came here from the poker site also were you over at the ftp forum :lolup:
 

Roanan

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ps i came here from the poker site also were you over at the ftp forum :lolup:

I like to play the Nightly Forum Gathering, but I don't participate in the forums.

My GGE allegiance is to Pokerspace, but I don't even participate in their forum very often.
(Maybe I should try playing for CM instead. It will require getting it set up though)

My home is now here at Casinomeister, so you're stuck with me. :p
 
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