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Discussion in 'Online Casinos' started by Rusty, Aug 1, 2007.

    Aug 1, 2007
  1. Rusty

    Rusty Banned User - repetitive flaming

    Occupation:
    IT
    Location:
    Manchester UK
    Clubworld,inetbet all RTG Casinos
    A rep from either can come on and explain how it is that every deposit I make at their Casinos yields less than 90%.
    Oh wait a minute, I have it..
    It is because their slots payout around 75% or less. Silly me.:eek2:
    Truely crap.

    Update:
    Just having a little chase on achiles since not had a feature and noticed a 20% bonus with moneybookers deposits at Clubworld so took it but when i checked to see if there was any WR I was amazed 125*bonus!
    So I contacted live chat and asked for it to be removed which they did but I noticed they had left the bonus in my account. so I informed them and they said I could keep it for being a good little Boy.
    Great customer service but please sort out these ridiculous WR on small bonuses and better still loosen the bolts on your slots, they are so highly strung they keep having mini breakdowns (you know what I mean)

    Update:
    Hit 3 features on achiles which took me to a massive $8 ahead but then went on Derby dollars and ggot the usual 60% ish payout

    Goodbye RTG it wasn't nice knowing you,I have a feeling they will pay better for a while when UK licensing comes in but basically they are bent.
     
    Last edited: Aug 1, 2007
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  2. Aug 1, 2007
  3. AudiManinBoro

    AudiManinBoro Ueber Meister MM

    Occupation:
    Sales
    Location:
    UK
    Ooh Dear another RTG thread. Their really taking a hammering lately :eek2:
     
  4. Aug 1, 2007
  5. kakata

    kakata Banned User - hyper flamming PABnonaccred PABnoaccred PABaccred

    Occupation:
    sales
    Location:
    miami fl
    thats exactly what they deserve............IMO
    Yesterday I was doing okay at Bodog...........than all of sudden 1100 spins no feature...........cmon this is a record for Guinness book.:mad:
     
  6. Aug 1, 2007
  7. cynthial

    cynthial Boo

    Occupation:
    Fireproofing
    Location:
    Albuquerque
    Love the title of this thread. Had to look in.
     
  8. Aug 1, 2007
  9. Simmo!

    Simmo! Moderator Staff Member

    Occupation:
    Web Dev.
    Location:
    England
    Well, nearer 95% on paper BUT each Real Series slot has a random jackpot - you can bet this takes up a good chunk of that. Actually, that begs another question.

    If the size of the bet increases your chances of the RJ, then surely the expected return is higher the more you bet? So if it advertises 95%, is it only in fact if you are playing maximum bet?!! Statisticians? It may be that you have an equal chance at the RJ no matter what your bet size, but I have my doubts that's how it works.
     
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  10. Aug 1, 2007
  11. winbig

    winbig Keep winning this amount.

    Occupation:
    Bum
    Location:
    Pennsylvania
    Hasn't there been a SS or two or more not that long ago that shows a RJ hit on a .20 bet?
     
  12. Aug 2, 2007
  13. aka23

    aka23 Dormant account

    Occupation:
    Technical
    Location:
    Planet Earth
    Not if the random jackpot is a fixed value across all bets. As your bet size increases, the random jackpot becomes a smaller portion of your bet.

    For example, consider a 90% payout without random jackpot, a $1,000 random jackpot, a 1 in 20,000 chance of hitting the jackpot with $1 bets, and a 1 in 4,000 chance of hitting the jackpot with $5 bets. This results in a net payout of 95% in both cases:

    With $1 bets = $.90 + $1,000/20,000 = $.95 (95% payout)
    with $5 bets = $4.50 + $1,000/4,000 = $4.75 (95% payout)
     
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  14. Aug 2, 2007
  15. suzecat

    suzecat Dormant account CAG MM webmeister

    Occupation:
    Retired
    Location:
    California
    Yep! :D Find it at page 750 of SS.
     
  16. Aug 2, 2007
  17. Simmo!

    Simmo! Moderator Staff Member

    Occupation:
    Web Dev.
    Location:
    England
    Yeah it was Mike031 - he actually hit 2 in the space of a coupel of days if I remember right - and big ones at that!

    AKA: Thanks...makes perfect sense :thumbsup:
     
  18. Aug 2, 2007
  19. AudiManinBoro

    AudiManinBoro Ueber Meister MM

    Occupation:
    Sales
    Location:
    UK
    Totally agree with that Simmo !
     
  20. Aug 2, 2007
  21. liquidsoap

    liquidsoap Dormant account

    Occupation:
    my self
    Location:
    home
    If you can not stand the payouts...
    Why play it???
    There is plenty of different casino softwares on the web to choose from.
     
  22. Aug 2, 2007
  23. lojo

    lojo Banned User - repetitive violations of <a href="ht

    Occupation:
    Tradesman
    Location:
    USA
    RE RJ

    re RJ; I thought it was pretty much understood or agreed that:

    The 'random' number i.e. $13,436 is predetermined.

    The more bets placed by all, the faster the clicker goes

    If you bet a penny you will have 1/100 of a chance, if you bet 100 you will have 100/1 chance (relatively)

    ergo: If I bet 100 I have gone through 10,000 possible 'clicks' and if I bet a penny I have gone through 1 possible click

    This way the more you bet the more chances you have of hitting it (linearly) but a person betting one penny one line can also be lucky enough to click at just the right time.

    Zoozie?
     
  24. Aug 2, 2007
  25. Mike031

    Mike031 Banned User - violation of <a href="http://www.cas

    Occupation:
    not a loser :o)
    Location:
    not loserland *lol*
    That's exactly it and that's the reason, why i'll only bet with 20 cents ;)

    No, mine was on page 779 ;)
     
  26. Aug 2, 2007
  27. Simmo!

    Simmo! Moderator Staff Member

    Occupation:
    Web Dev.
    Location:
    England
    ...or 0.40 ;)


    Damn I'm so used to your Loaded avatar I almost missed itwas you Liquid :D
     
  28. Aug 2, 2007
  29. Mike031

    Mike031 Banned User - violation of <a href="http://www.cas

    Occupation:
    not a loser :o)
    Location:
    not loserland *lol*
    Not really, because i only play with 20 cent, $1 or $2 bets ;)
    But at the last time only with 20 cents :)
     
  30. Aug 3, 2007
  31. Rusty

    Rusty Banned User - repetitive flaming

    Occupation:
    IT
    Location:
    Manchester UK
    Like a script...random jackpot...or ripped off.
     

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