Question MrSmiths Casino experiences?

[dunover]

I played there late last night, seem to have everybody's favourites from MG, Netent, WMS, Bally and IGT.
Decided to spend my weekly £50 there, 100% SUB with 25x D+B WR. Had a good session, down to last £30 on Raping Rhino and a succession of good features hiked me up to £700. Made the mistake of going to Netent at that point, soon down to £300 whereby I made the WR.
Went to TSII (awful) and was soon down to £200 my cash-out point when it went on a crazy run at 90p and literally in 30 spins was at over £500. Raised stake to £1.20 and hit a bonus round (5x spins) which retriggered and was weird in that I had 3 5-reel wins none of which involved a wild (Q's, Odins and Valkyries) and paid £288.
Was at over £800 and went back to Rampaging Rhino which predictably was bad and ended up following my 75% of peak rule and cashed out over £650!
Not a bad session then, games ran smoothly the only error was twice I pressed 'spin' on TSII and the game vanished and I was logged-out of the casino. Logged back in and the TSII picture was there asking if I wanted to resume so was easy enough to continue.
6 hours after going to sleep and ending the session my withdrawal has a 'green tick' and is not reversible so it seems they are expedient payers.
Any comments? Cheers.

 

[spintee]

Yes had a spin on there the other day, 1st casino in months not to give me any error messages

Got a 300% bonus games running sweet, verry good choice of game providers aswell, I made the mistake of hitting one of them leander games, Fu*ing dreadfull, But yes they seem to be verry good after the the quick change over from harrycasino? let us no how long it takes for money to hit

 

[KasinoKing]

Any comments? Cheers.

It's rigged I tells ya!
How could you possibly win playing those slots if they really were random.
I bet there's someone in their back-office watching your play and flicking the "win switch" on purpose to wind you up...

KK

 

[dunover]

It's rigged I tells ya!
How could you possibly win playing those slots if they really were random.
I bet there's someone in their back-office watching your play and flicking the "win switch" on purpose to wind you up...

KK

I dunno if that's meant for me, or the moaners elsewhere that question randomness. Anyway my random luck was in, so no complaints. Perhaps if I kept playing until busting out, I could then complain 'they're fixed I tells ya, 'cos I can never make a withdrawal...'

 

[Blathaon]

I played there late last night, seem to have everybody's favourites from MG, Netent, WMS, Bally and IGT.
Decided to spend my weekly £50 there, 100% SUB with 25x D+B WR. Had a good session, down to last £30 on Raping Rhino and a succession of good features hiked me up to £700. Made the mistake of going to Netent at that point, soon down to £300 whereby I made the WR.
Went to TSII (awful) and was soon down to £200 my cash-out point when it went on a crazy run at 90p and literally in 30 spins was at over £500. Raised stake to £1.20 and hit a bonus round (5x spins) which retriggered and was weird in that I had 3 5-reel wins none of which involved a wild (Q's, Odins and Valkyries) and paid £288.
Was at over £800 and went back to Rampaging Rhino which predictably was bad and ended up following my 75% of peak rule and cashed out over £650!
Not a bad session then, games ran smoothly the only error was twice I pressed 'spin' on TSII and the game vanished and I was logged-out of the casino. Logged back in and the TSII picture was there asking if I wanted to resume so was easy enough to continue.
6 hours after going to sleep and ending the session my withdrawal has a 'green tick' and is not reversible so it seems they are expedient payers.
Any comments? Cheers.

Congrats on a good run no screenshots?

Since MrSmith used to be Harry casino i would imagine its pretty much what it used to be? They are part of the BML Group and they all pay quickly.

The problem i have with MrSmith/Harry and CasinoEuro/EuroCasino is that they have really poor bonuses. Even the bonus you took have a WR of 50xB, and that is sadly the best they offer. The monthly reloads are 50% up to 50€ with 20xD+B WR which is 60xB WR.(at least they were last time i checked)

This never made sense to me since Betsson and Betsafe(both also in the BML Group) have 35xB WR, and loyalty bonuses only have 25xB WR.

So apart from the SUB there really is no point in playing at MrSmith or CasinoEuro.

 

[rshkrn]

has your withdrawal hit your acc yet.....?? not sure if they do weekends....

 

[dunover]

Congrats on a good run no screenshots?

Since MrSmith used to be Harry casino i would imagine its pretty much what it used to be? They are part of the BML Group and they all pay quickly.

The problem i have with MrSmith/Harry and CasinoEuro/EuroCasino is that they have really poor bonuses. Even the bonus you took have a WR of 50xB, and that is sadly the best they offer. The monthly reloads are 50% up to 50€ with 20xD+B WR which is 60xB WR.(at least they were last time i checked)

This never made sense to me since Betsson and Betsafe(both also in the BML Group) have 35xB WR, and loyalty bonuses only have 25xB WR.

So apart from the SUB there really is no point in playing at MrSmith or CasinoEuro.

I put the best screenshot up (Raping Rhino 640x).

I only post over 500x so that's the only one. I may take the other 2 bonuses as I like their games.

 

[dunover]

has your withdrawal hit your acc yet.....?? not sure if they do weekends....

It's been 'completed' quick enough but it's a debit card so won't expect it until Tuesday at least.

 

[Blathaon]

I put the best screenshot up (Raping Rhino 640x).

I only post over 500x so that's the only one. I may take the other 2 bonuses as I like their games.

Very nice! i had actually seen it earlier today in the winner screenshot thread

I just looked at their welcome package, the 2nd bonus have a WR of 75xB , the Third one is pretty decent since they use the silly D+B WR you get better value as the bonus % increase, so the Third bonus have a WR of 41,66xB.

I will never understand why some casinos insist on listing their WR as xD+B, i can only assume that they think we are all morons and that the lower number will make people think its a better offer than it is. It really annoys me.
If they at least would adjust the number down for bonuses below 100% so that the WR remained the same then it wouldn't be a big deal, but of course this is rarely the case.

There are even reps here at CM defending this practice and i have been told that it's "unfair" of me to convert it to xB when comparing the offers from different casinos...

Anyway, let's hope you can repeat the success of your first deposit on the Two remaining bonuses

 

[spintee]

I put the best screenshot up (Raping Rhino 640x).

I only post over 500x so that's the only one. I may take the other 2 bonuses as I like their games.

You do get the odd good bonus like I did the other day, But most of them are auto no code needed
Kindly note, you will receive your welcome bonuses before receiving this exclusive bonus offer I got a 300% up to £300 which come with a 20x b+d but not bad as 300% bonus
They also got some good bonus going, deposit and spend 30 on sundays this month and get 100 spins Mega Fortune Dream with a 15x wager,
I think this casino will be on my to [lay list in the future as long as they get the licence

 

[spintee]

I will never understand why some casinos insist on listing their WR as xD+B, i can only assume that they think we are all morons and that the lower number will make people think its a better offer than it is. It really annoys me.
If they at least would adjust the number down for bonuses below 100% so that the WR remained the same then it wouldn't be a big deal, but of course this is rarely the case.

There are even reps here at CM defending this practice and i have been told that it's "unfair" of me to convert it to xB when comparing the offers from different casinos...

It gets on my tits an all, I am always trying to figure it out lol,

That 300% had 20x d&b Whats that 1 work out as? I thought it was not to bad

 

[Blathaon]

It gets on my tits an all, I am always trying to figure it out lol,

That 300% had 20x d&b Whats that 1 work out as? I thought it was not to bad

Yeah it's annoying. 300% with 20xD+B would be 26,66xB so a very good bonus indeed!

 

[dunover]

Very nice! i had actually seen it earlier today in the winner screenshot thread

I just looked at their welcome package, the 2nd bonus have a WR of 75xB , the Third one is pretty decent since they use the silly D+B WR you get better value as the bonus % increase, so the Third bonus have a WR of 41,66xB.

I will never understand why some casinos insist on listing their WR as xD+B, i can only assume that they think we are all morons and that the lower number will make people think its a better offer than it is. It really annoys me. If they at least would adjust the number down for bonuses below 100% so that the WR remained the same then it wouldn't be a big deal, but of course this is rarely the case.

There are even reps here at CM defending this practice and i have been told that it's "unfair" of me to convert it to xB when comparing the offers from different casinos...

Anyway, let's hope you can repeat the success of your first deposit on the Two remaining bonuses

I think because it tells the player that his deposit is immediately tied to WR and therefore becomes bonus money too.
If represented as 'xB' then in many cases the bonus can be forfeited if the player wins with the cash part and doesn't touch the bonus. This bonus forfeit practice is usually operated by accredited sites hence the reps may have justification in believing that it's unfair to compare their offers to dissimilar ones.

 

[spintee]

Yeah it's annoying. 300% with 20xD+B would be 26,66xB so a very good bonus indeed!

Yep thats a good 1 that is, even better when all slots count 100%, & bet up to 20% of bonus and as its a big bonus its even better, No worrys about hitting max bet there

 

[Blathaon]

I think because it tells the player that his deposit is immediately tied to WR and therefore becomes bonus money too.
If represented as 'xB' then in many cases the bonus can be forfeited if the player wins with the cash part and doesn't touch the bonus. This bonus forfeit practice is usually operated by accredited sites hence the reps may have justification in believing that it's unfair to compare their offers to dissimilar ones.

If that was what it meant consistently then i would agree(also you would think that if that were the case they would adjust the WR down on bonuses that are less than 100% to make the WR the same). But there are extremely few casinos that allow you to forfeit the bonus and withdraw early(the only one that spring to mind is Betat) and CasinoEuro/Mrsmith does not allow it.

I know that NextCasino and CasinoLuck state the WR as D+B but they adjust it up or down depending on the bonus% so that it's always 39/40xB . Apparently it had something to do with the back end so they were unable to list them as xB. But that is the only Two casinos that have given a sensible justification for why they are doing it.

I still maintain that most casinos do it deliberately to trick the players into beliving that they are getting a better deal than they are.

Some software providers do a similair thing, it might say something like "Win up to 20000x Bet!" and when you read the fine print it's LINE BET and not total bet

 

[spintee]

If that was what it meant consistently then i would agree(also you would think that if that were the case they would adjust the WR down on bonuses that are less than 100% to make the WR the same). But there are extremely few casinos that allow you to forfeit the bonus and withdraw early(the only one that spring to mind is Betat) and CasinoEuro/Mrsmith does not allow it.

I know that NextCasino and CasinoLuck state the WR as D+B but they adjust it up or down depending on the bonus% so that it's always 39/40xB . Apparently it had something to do with the back end so they were unable to list them as xB. But that is the only Two casinos that have given a sensible justification for why they are doing it.

I still maintain that most casinos do it deliberately to trick the players into beliving that they are getting a better deal than they are.

Some software providers do a similair thing, it might say something like "Win up to 20000x your Bet!" and when you read the fine print it's LINE BET and not total bet

Funny you should say that, I been trying to work out the winning money on the new sush / so much candy slot, if you notice its hot win up to ££££ PER LINE, So again how that work out per line?

 

[dunover]

If that was what it meant consistently then i would agree(also you would think that if that were the case they would adjust the WR down on bonuses that are less than 100% to make the WR the same). But there are extremely few casinos that allow you to forfeit the bonus and withdraw early(the only one that spring to mind is Betat) and CasinoEuro/Mrsmith does not allow it.

I know that NextCasino and CasinoLuck state the WR as D+B but they adjust it up or down depending on the bonus% so that it's always 39/40xB . Apparently it had something to do with the back end so they were unable to list them as xB. But that is the only Two casinos that have given a sensible justification for why they are doing it.

I still maintain that most casinos do it deliberately to trick the players into beliving that they are getting a better deal than they are.

Some software providers do a similair thing, it might say something like "Win up to 20000x Bet!" and when you read the fine print it's LINE BET and not total bet

That's fine as long as you can choose to play one line on the particular game. If you can't and must play all lines then it's total BS advertising.

 

[Blathaon]

Funny you should say that, I been trying to work out the winning money on the new sush / so much candy slot, if you notice its hot win up to ££££ PER LINE, So again how that work out per line?
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That wasn't really what i meant, what i meant is that on some slots it may say "win up to 20000xBet" but you read the fine print only to find that it's line bet and not total bet, so say if it's a 20 liner then max win is not 20000xBet but 1000xBet. I believe Playtech is notorious for this nonsense.

MG seem to state the max win on max bet(No idea why they decided to list it as per line here, they usually list the absolute max win per spin), So if you set the bet to max you will see that the values in your screenshot corresponds to the paytable.



The max win per line for the highest paying symbol is 640xBet.(i assume it's possible to hit on more than one line at a time? So the real max win per spin is probably higher.)

MG are generally quite transparent with their slots, and the paytable auto adjusts to your bet size so it's easy to see what the different combinations will pay. I would still like slot providers to just state max win in therms of xBet instead of coins or credits.

 

[Blathaon]

That's fine as long as you can choose to play one line on the particular game. If you can't and must play all lines then it's total BS advertising.

Fair enough, i still think it's silly since most people play max lines on most slots. (If it says win up to x Line bet then that's fine) my problem is with the slots that state win up to x bet when it actually is line bet.

I will see if i can find some examples, I see that Playtech actually says win up to x line bet on the slots i have checked (I could have sworn it used to just say win up to x bet)

 

[KasinoKing]

The max win per line for the highest paying symbol is 640xBet.(i assume it's possible to hit on more than one line at a time? So the real max win per spin is probably higher.)

No, that's not possible - you can only get 25 of-a-kind with 5 natural symbols (no wilds).
As I don't think any of the symbols are duplicated within 2 spots of each other, you can't get the max on more than 1 line at a time.

KK

 

[Blathaon]

No, that's not possible - you can only get 25 of-a-kind with 5 natural symbols (no wilds).
As I don't think any of the symbols are duplicated within 2 spots of each other, you can't get the max on more than 1 line at a time.

KK

Ok, Pretty low max win per spin then.

 

[spintee]

@Blathaon I can see where your coming from about the wins stating win up x bet but ends up only being x line bet,

Yes MG do adjust prize according to bet size but that picture I took was from the chose a pick from a 25p play, So I think that payable is wrong for 25p play, Also it sais per line, Yes that would be fine if it was possible to will across all lines but like KK said there could be only 1 possible max win per spin so again that's abit misleading, It should say per spin but you could possibly get a few other wins within the spin so that would be wrong also,

What really should be the case is max win per spin, That would solve any matters up,

 

[dunover]

It's been 'completed' quick enough but it's a debit card so won't expect it until Tuesday at least.

Update I received it today Tuesday so took 48hrs. back to bank account! WTG!

Took the second auto bonus for 50% lost in no time, took the final one of 3 (150%) on a £100 deposit, just made the £6250 WR and cashed out another £820!

P.S. See my insane Raping Rhino hit in 1k+ screenshots

 

[brianmon]

I made a withdrawal to Neteller tonight at the sister site CasinoEuro. It arrived in my account within 4 minutes !!!! That's the fastest, I've ever been paid