Mr Bet - They Do Not Permit Bonus Round Storing On Slots

[Lobo]

Same thing happened to me at Rizk... I often play multiple slots at a time, and this time I played with a 100% match bonus.
I played Book of Dead + reactoonz simultaneously. Book of dead was on autospins. I got a "bonus" at Reactoonz were the bars were filling up, and while it filled up and got the Garga (took around 1-2 minutes), Book of dead emptied my balance in the process (background window). I won around 800x on reactoonz which got instantly confiscated... some automated software to detect "abuse".
I contacted support, and they said I was a bonus abuser and that those funds remained confiscated.

My VIP manager sorted it out and I got my winnings, but yeah - be careful with these bonuses on bonus money, and allways have a balance when playing the bonuses.

 

[Steviedoo]

Moral of this thread and almost every other thread about money being confiscated because of bonus wagering is bonuses are not worth the trouble!

 

[stokes]

When you leave these bonuses to slot to be played later once wagering is completed or all funds busted which also remove wagering, you most probably can't know if you are able to complete wagering or you going to bust before.

Not necessary. You can still play it fair i.e. playing the stored bonus rounds before your balance reaches 0 or before redepositing .

 

[Cocochanel]

I was playing at Grande Vegas the other day. been a player there for many years, but deposit maybe 3 times a year.

Anyway

Deposit $ 45 and lost, then I got a cashback of $11,25 and won $ 95 which I withdrew. After that I went to cashier where there was $ 25 for been a loyal player, wager was $ 1500. I just took 11 spins a $2,25...lost. Then they have $ 25 for januar deposit, wager $ 1500, again took 12 spins a$ 2, lost, all fine.

Next day got email, that they have declined my payout because I took the 2 bonus with a withdraw pending!!!! Im was happy its was only $ 95....what if it had been $ 1000 or more. So that was good bye to Grande Vegas forever. I dont think that was fair, but in their rules it says they MAY cancel.

 

[slot_zombie]

Yes, some date would be appreciated. To be fair, any player who wins a jackpot is the perfect customer. It didn't cost the casino a dime. Players have already paid for the jackpot.

What is worse, if one broke the rules of the casino - while winning a jackpot. In that case a complicated process kicks-in. The jackpot win has to be transferred back to the jackpot. Given the fact that others players have paid to the jackpot, a casino can't confistcate winnings. Those winnings have to be transferred back to the jackpot counter. That is a long and complicated process.

So I assume you didn't win an actual jackpot and no other players are affected due to this?

@L&L-Jan just checking, is it acceptable to do a raw cash bonus hunt on L&L premises?

All done, dusted and bonuses played off before the cashback timer expired, of course....

 

[interlog]

@L&L-Jan just checking, is it acceptable to do a raw cash bonus hunt on L&L premises?

All done, dusted and bonuses played off before the cashback timer expired, of course....

I have done them many a time at both All British and CasinoCasino and nobody has said anything.

 

[SpinUk]

Same thing happened to me at Rizk... I often play multiple slots at a time, and this time I played with a 100% match bonus.
I played Book of Dead + reactoonz simultaneously. Book of dead was on autospins. I got a "bonus" at Reactoonz were the bars were filling up, and while it filled up and got the Garga (took around 1-2 minutes), Book of dead emptied my balance in the process (background window). I won around 800x on reactoonz which got instantly confiscated... some automated software to detect "abuse".
I contacted support, and they said I was a bonus abuser and that those funds remained confiscated.

My VIP manager sorted it out and I got my winnings, but yeah - be careful with these bonuses on bonus money, and allways have a balance when playing the bonuses.

As far as I know all casinos do this now and have done for a good few year - casinos systems flag bonus money is being used and once you bust out all games in situ i.e saved bonus rounds cancel automatically.

For this reason, I do not see an issue with saving up bonuses whilst still in wagering territory - there is no player advantage at all.

 

[Slottery]

As far as I know all casinos do this now and have done for a good few year - casinos systems flag bonus money is being used and once you bust out all games in situ i.e saved bonus rounds cancel automatically.

For this reason, I do not see an issue with saving up bonuses whilst still in wagering territory - there is no player advantage at all.

That's probably point where most casinos are drawing the line, once bonus is completed (lost or wagered), everything "earned and saved" with that bonus get canceled automatically same time when bonus is completed (some platforms don't have that functionality and these are checked at withdrawal stage if bonus money have been involved).

 

[Supababe]

That's probably point where most casinos are drawing the line, once bonus is completed (lost or wagered), everything "earned and saved" with that bonus get canceled automatically same time when bonus is completed (some platforms don't have that functionality and these are checked at withdrawal stage if bonus money have been involved).

In the world of the perfect casino, As they are monitoring bonus round completion, wouldn’t it be nice if the system auto generated an email to notify you of any unfinished rounds.

I’m convinced I have a nice win somehwhere from when I put it on auto on mobile and got distracted by the kids, or fell asleep or had a connection error and forgot to go back later.

I once found an incomplete bonus round at sky Vegas. It didn’t pay a lot but certainly boosted my small deposit for more playtime.

I was looking at my game history somewhere recently (nope can’t recall where) and it had a column at the end of the row for ‘game completed’. It’s a shame I couldn’t ‘sort/filter using this parameter.

 

[Slottery]

In the world of the perfect casino, As they are monitoring bonus round completion, wouldn’t it be nice if the system auto generated an email to notify you of any unfinished rounds.

I’m convinced I have a nice win somehwhere from when I put it on auto on mobile and got distracted by the kids, or fell asleep or had a connection error and forgot to go back later.

I once found an incomplete bonus round at sky Vegas. It didn’t pay a lot but certainly boosted my small deposit for more playtime.

I was looking at my game history somewhere recently (nope can’t recall where) and it had a column at the end of the row for ‘game completed’. It’s a shame I couldn’t ‘sort/filter using this parameter.

It's worth to check from support, they should be able to locate unfinished game round, like you said all rounds should finish to status completed and ones are not, are easy to see (would assume that year 2020 most of platforms).

If bonus or stuck round have finished itself, then finding it can be next to impossible if no quite accurate time available, but in these cases you only anyway get result how much it pay.

 

[Playford7]

No its not againt the terms if you have made a raw deposit with no bonus attached. You need to let this streamer hatred go or avoid threads that trigger you. It won't end well and you are better than that.

Nick done it with a Bonus attached.
at ikibu.
told his sheep. Sorry viewers this was ok.
pretty sure I explained this and also have a valid member here to back me up and my own emails.
This is why I hate streaming as a form of netting sign ups.

 

[goatwack]

One would think you have a chip on your shoulder about streamers oh balls wrong phrase

 

[Playford7]

Sorry you don't get banned for discussing streamers in a calm and reasonable way. You seem to be implying you get singled out while others can slander whoever they want. Just not true.

You are bringing up something that happened years ago. Nick is in his fourth year of streaming i believe so would have been early days. I'm not saying hes an angel by any means but all of us make mistakes. I'd like to think someone would not be hounding me for something i did wrong years ago. When I've watched him bonus hunt in the last year or so he uses a raw deposit and explains why.

Unfortunately you destroy your own arguments with your hatred as it clouds any truth.

I think you are a good guy really but this is your Achilles heel.

Make mistakes! If I forgot to attach certain parts at work people would die. Has dire consequences.
yet some can’t spell streamer misleads thousands and thousands and that’s ok?..
Your logic is laughable

 

[Playford7]

Well, I let will let you into something that I arranged with a casino a few years ago. I used to get the occasional £250 no deposit bonus (usual wagering attached, no limit to cash out) and I could do a bonus hunt with it providing that I opened all of the bonuses with a balance left of at least £5 of that bonus money. I then carried on to attempt to try the wagering.

Maybe (and I don't know this), Nick had a similar agreement with the casino he, at the time, was streaming from.

That was years ago when cash and bonus money wasn't separated like it is now.

No he lied. I have the emails.
how many other casinos does he have this abhorrent deal with? Let’s call a spade a spade here mark. They both financially serve each other. In this business honesty is pointless

 

[Playford7]

One would think you have a chip on your shoulder about streamers oh balls wrong phrase

Well if calling them out I have a chip on my shoulder...
Call me ‘mr McCain’

 

[goatwack]

Well if calling them out I have a chip on my shoulder...
Call me ‘mr McCain’

What's Chip doing on your shoulder?!?

 

[Playford7]

What's Chip doing on your shoulder?!?

A man of that size would struggle tbh on my shoulders. I’m only 14.5st.
Just watching ‘dead mans shoes’ it’s a fine visual feast of karma.
wonder if real life ever plays out the same...

 

[goatwack]

A man of that size would struggle tbh on my shoulders. I’m only 14.5st.
Just watching ‘dead mans shoes’ it’s a fine visual feast of karma.
wonder if real life ever plays out the same...

Ah, well I'm watching Hitchcock's The Birds. No karma involved, just a bunch of angry feathered bastards

 

[pinnit2014]

What's Chip doing on your shoulder?!?

Whispering ‘it’s ok to store bonus rounds with bonus funds, Spud’, softly.

 

[Mr_Slot5]

Kind of understand and agree casios approach in this. When you leave these bonuses to slot to be played later once wagering is completed or all funds busted which also remove wagering, you most probably can't know if you are able to complete wagering or you going to bust before.

Therefore you leave them there instead of playing them when wagering bonus to avoid winnings from these rounds having wagering requirements. What ever happening first, your aim was get all winnings from bonus rounds without wagering requirement to be able withdraw all winnings right away.

As long bonus terms mention that it's not allowed to build bonus features with bonus money and return after wagering is completed (by playing it through or all balance lost) that's clear for players as well. I don't find in unreasonable or unfair term, and even if it feels like that, it's mentioned in bonus terms (many think that most of bonus terms are unreasonable).

But if slots are as random as they say they are, it shouldn't matter one jot when you leave the game.

If the bonus wagering is completed prior to opening bonuses then it makes 0 odds to your chances of winning, in theory and it should all be above board casino side.

Obviously storing bonuses and playing to 0 to cancel the wager is pure bonus abuse and rightfully banned- but that's not what I'm talking about here.

 

[mack341]

But if slots are as random as they say they are, it shouldn't matter one jot when you leave the game.

If the bonus wagering is completed prior to opening bonuses then it makes 0 odds to your chances of winning, in theory and it should all be above board casino side.

Obviously storing bonuses and playing to 0 to cancel the wager is pure bonus abuse and rightfully banned- but that's not what I'm talking about here.

I kind of agree, if wagering is completed regardless of the stored bonus then it makes no odds, but then again why postpone playing out a bonus, I've never really understood the attraction. [ I suppose it's the intense excitement similar to opening 10 presents rather than 1??]

Even when watching a highlights slot vid I prefer to see some of the base game, a bit of chat and then the bonus if it lands rather than just wall to wall bonuses, it removes the context/suspense, like a movie with just the exciting part(s)
[I'm talking legit movies here, the kind that get shown on mainstream tv btw ]

 

[JohnSnow]

Moral of this thread and almost every other thread about money being confiscated because of bonus wagering is bonuses are not worth the trouble!

Except on casino's like luckydino that have great bonus terms but with great bonus terms comes great crappy RTP on every provider that offers lower RTP. Pragmaticplay, redtiger, playngo all lower RTP settings.

 

[interlog]

No he lied. I have the emails.
how many other casinos does he have this abhorrent deal with? Let’s call a spade a spade here mark. They both financially serve each other. In this business honesty is pointless

Did he ever tell his viewers to store bonuses, and then when the wagering wasn't completed to open them and treat the winnings as cash? That is what happened to the OP as far as I know and as far as I know Nick never told his viewers that this is the done deal.

He may well have told viewers to do bonus hunts with bonus money in play (but play these out when wagering was still to be done) which is risky and may be frowned upon by casinos.

 

[Slottery]

But if slots are as random as they say they are, it shouldn't matter one jot when you leave the game.

If the bonus wagering is completed prior to opening bonuses then it makes 0 odds to your chances of winning, in theory and it should all be above board casino side.

Obviously storing bonuses and playing to 0 to cancel the wager is pure bonus abuse and rightfully banned- but that's not what I'm talking about here.

No making difference of outcome of bonuses stored but still don't find in unreasonable not to allow collecting bonuses with bonus money and play them just in end of bonus wagering.

When outcome of bonuses is not changing, player behavior surprisingly often do when you have some bonus rounds stored where you hope to have decent win, your brains can magically switch you to play most low volatile games to make you survive until last few quids and then play your saved bonuses and cash them out almost wager free.

Can feel like overreacting to bonus abuse but some casinos don't allow that be done and i have no problem with it as long it's stated in bonus terms. Some are allowing it without any issues, some don't, personally would check if it's ok or not before starting to do it.

Some also have these vague terms about chances in gameplay (bet size etc...) which suck if not listed what's ok and what's not, some rogue operators can be really creative when they are not willing to pay winnings.

 

[Jono777]

Fuck you and your fucking stupid fucking site. You are all fucking idiots and you have no fucking clue how casino software even works. So shut your idiot mouths!

Wow what a fantastic display of intellect!

Surely an early contender for post of the year 2020!