Bitch and Moan Mozilla/Google's Rival affiliate scam?

Roanan

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I use Mozilla's Firefox as my browser and have become a bit lazy because of it.

No longer do I waste my time entering the 'http://' or even bothering with the 'com' most of the time, especially for major sites.

Today, when I was reading a different thread and went to VegasRegal to look at their T&C's, I simply punched 'vegasregal' into the address bar and lo and behold, it went to an affiliate page (vegasregalcasino.com/?id=303564)

This surprised me, so I tried TropicaCasino.
Sure enough, it directed me to tropicacasino.com/?id=571104

Now either Mozilla and Google have decided to take advantage of people like me (lazy) and have added affiliate accounts to further pad their bottom line, or someone has paid Google to make their affiliate link trump anything else Google may find.

Either way something smells rotten here.
 

NicolasJohnson

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I suggest you run an antivirus scan.

Based on your description this seems to be a 'malware' program. The way it works is you get an offer for something free (free screen saver, a funny picture, an ebook, etc).

This 'free gift' then comes incorporated with malware which has the capacity to redirect you based on navigational actions.

Then they allow 'advertisers' to bid on certain actions. So an affiliate can tell these 'advertising companies' that they would like it so that when you type in VegasRegalCasino you are re-directed to their affiliate link. Then they pay these 'advertising companies'. They can also bid on other actions, like have a pop up/pop under come up when you look for 'casino reviews' on google or other SEs.

This is totally un ethical and something we will not stand. Can you please confirm, via a private PM which affiliate link you get when you type in Vegas Regal Casino? I'll be sure to have this affiliate handled properly.

Kind Regards,
Nicolas Johnson
Vegas Regal Casino &
Regal Affiliates Representative
 

Marie2473

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I tried and I do not get an aff-link so i think the rep is right - I do think that ur computer caught a bug--- Still not good - but atleast it is not google/mzilla pulling a trick!
 

gloria460

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I get this all the time...quite a few of them will direct you to an affliates site. It's the way they have their pages listed also. If you do a search on google for vegas regal..9 out of 10 times the first thru the 10th search will be an affliate..
 

NicolasJohnson

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I get this all the time...quite a few of them will direct you to an affliates site. It's the way they have their pages listed also. If you do a search on google for vegas regal..9 out of 10 times the first thru the 10th search will be an affliate..

gloria460 is also right. If you went to an affiliate site clicked on a link and got redirected to us, then that isn't bad at all. It is simply a way we track advertising. If on the other hand you clicked on google on a site listed as "vegasregalcasino.com" and got redirected to that URL, then it could be malware)

Kind Regards,
Nicolas Johnson
Regal Affiliates Manager
 

Marie2473

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i thought that the poster meant that he typed vegas regal directly in the browser - not doing a search at google... ?
 

winbig

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I typed vegasregal in the address bar and was taken directly to google showing the results of that particular search, since the domain is vegasregalcasino. The same goes for tropicacasino, since there are multiple results for it.

If I type in vegasregalcasino, it goes to VR directly without an affiliate link..
 

winbig

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BUT:

If you type tropicacasino by itself in the address bar, the 2nd listing that comes up on google's search is this:

Sign up at Tropica Online Casino and get $10 no deposit needed and $250 match bonus. Play casino games like blackjack, roulette, slots, poker and many more.
tropicacasino.com/?id=571104

The first result for typing vegasregal into my address bar is:

Vegas Regal Casino- Brand New Rival Online Casino - $12 Free No Deposit Bonus plus 100% up to $1000 free welcome bonus or the 300% up to $300 free slots ...
vegasregalcasino.com/?id=303564


So, it is QUITE possible that either google is mucking up in certain datacenters, or this affiliate has found a FF bug and is exploiting it.

Either way, I wouldn't dismiss this issue as a fluke or malware. Something fishy is going on.

FWIW, I'm running FF 3.6rc2 beta.

edit: It's also weird that there's no "www" attached to it. I've also never seen a google search result for an online casino that had an affiliate ID attached to it. For example, all of the searches for online casinos I've seen lead to affiliate sites, and do NOT simply show the domain of the casino with an affiliate link to it. For example, type irishluckcasino (another rival) in the address bar. The search results it comes back with do NOT have any affiliate links tied to it. The results simply show affiliate sites that are promoting them.

I'm now convinced that an affiliate has found a bug in certain versions of FF.

Maybe Nicolas could look into who owns these affiliate accounts to make sure this is a real person and not the VR/Tropica website having pages indexed via Google with these affiliate codes attached?
 

Roanan

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I suggest you run an antivirus scan.

Based on your description this seems to be a 'malware' program. The way it works is you get an offer for something free (free screen saver, a funny picture, an ebook, etc).

This 'free gift' then comes incorporated with malware which has the capacity to redirect you based on navigational actions.

Then they allow 'advertisers' to bid on certain actions. So an affiliate can tell these 'advertising companies' that they would like it so that when you type in VegasRegalCasino you are re-directed to their affiliate link. Then they pay these 'advertising companies'. They can also bid on other actions, like have a pop up/pop under come up when you look for 'casino reviews' on google or other SEs.

This is totally un ethical and something we will not stand. Can you please confirm, via a private PM which affiliate link you get when you type in Vegas Regal Casino? I'll be sure to have this affiliate handled properly.

My computer is perfectly clean. My anti virus hasn't found anything for a while.
The last entry in the history is some tracking cookies on December 12.
(I have 32 years experience on computers, I've never been suckered by spam)

Plus, I have been trying quite a few others since I made this post but only VegasRegal and Tropica have done this, and I did post the links in the OP:

vegasregalcasino.com/?id=303564)

tropicacasino.com/?id=571104

So if this is the case of an unscrupulous affiliate, he's also managed to program a virus/malware that AVG Pro's daily scan, plus an online scan using BitDefender and TrendMicro, can not see.
 

RobWin

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Me thinks you guys may have a security issue on your end in your browser's address bar...this is the way it should look and come up when you type vegasregal directly into the address bar....

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winbig

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Me thinks you guys may have a security issue on your end in your browser's address bar...this is the way it should look and come up when you type vegasregal directly into the address bar....

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You can setup FF to search directly from what you type in the address bar. No security issues here..:thumbsup:

here's an article about it:
You do not have permission to view link Log in or register now.
 

Roanan

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Me thinks you guys may have a security issue on your end in your browser's address bar...this is the way it should look and come up when you type vegasregal directly into the address bar....

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You're the one getting the glitch then. You're supposed to be able to type directly into the address bar and it's supposed to check with Google and open the most relevant site automatically.

Apparently an affiliate has managed to get his link to trump all others.
 

RobWin

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You can setup FF to search directly from what you type in the address bar. No security issues here..:thumbsup:

here's an article about it:
You do not have permission to view link Log in or register now.

LOL Win, I had to re-set my security settings so I could use the address bar...thanks for the tip bro...:thumbsup:

You're the one getting the glitch then. You're supposed to be able to type directly into the address bar and it's supposed to check with Google and open the most relevant site automatically.

Apparently an affiliate has managed to get his link to trump all others.

Ronan, the fact that an affiliate got his link to trump all others is nothing new at all. I have a couple casinos that I list on my site where you can simply type in the search word for the casino name and my links will come up on the first page of the search results above the actual casino listing itself.

That is due to the way the search algorithms rate and value those listings...that's all that is....:) The affiliate most likely spent more time like I have done also with a few listings, working hard on getting the best SEO in place to get those links up there on the top of the first page.
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GrandMaster

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edit: It's also weird that there's no "www" attached to it. I've also never seen a google search result for an online casino that had an affiliate ID attached to it. For example, all of the searches for online casinos I've seen lead to affiliate sites, and do NOT simply show the domain of the casino with an affiliate link to it. For example, type irishluckcasino (another rival) in the address bar. The search results it comes back with do NOT have any affiliate links tied to it. The results simply show affiliate sites that are promoting them.

I'm now convinced that an affiliate has found a bug in certain versions of FF.
Just try searching for vegasregal, vegasregalcasino.com/?id=303564 comes up as top search result, similarly tropicacasino.com/?id=571104 for tropicacasino. This is not a bug in FF.
 

kwblue

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I can type vegasregal directly into google on FF and IE on 2 separate machines (one is completely clean and wiped).

Both top listings in Google are the same one everyone else is seeing with id=303564

Maybe the affiliate is spamming out that specific link enough that it has more inbound links than the site itself does? That way it would rank at the top for a while until the Google engine catches it.

Just a thought...
 

winbig

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Just try searching for vegasregal, vegasregalcasino.com/?id=303564 comes up as top search result, similarly tropicacasino.com/?id=571104 for tropicacasino. This is not a bug in FF.

By bug, I meant that it was a bug in FF that would go directly to the first result that's listed in google and not the google results..
 
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