Most legit live dealer casinos?

paulyjustin

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I have accounts on pokerstars, 888poker and partypoker. Basically i have accounts at poker sites since i play poker. I never played live dealer before but would consider it compared to online blackjack or roulette that is basically against the computer. That to me is basically playing against rigged machine etc and im sure many of you feel this way right?


Anyways, what live dealer casinos do most of you play at? I read about online casinos here where i never even heard of these names. Thus if i heard these casinos i would think it sounds like a scam site if you know what i mean but apparently many of these seem to be recommended here.


For live dealer blackjack, roulette and those other live dealer games, what is the most popular online casino here? Would you guys say pokerstars, 888poker and partypoker all seem legit? Also im curious but does partypoker have their own special tables like pokerstars and 888poker since those 2 sites have pokerstars and 888 specific tables? I know that all these tables are under evolution gaming. I have accounts at other sites but those dont seem to be as legit as pokerstars/888/partycasino though. Also assuming you play on those evolution gaming tables, it doesn't matter if you sit at a pokerstars, 888 or partycasino right?


Wondering something else. But are there people here that actually multitable live dealer blackjack? For example sit on one table of 888 live dealer blackjack and one table partycasino blackjack? Is that allowed assuming both tables are evolution gaming and shared between pokerstars, 888 and partycasino? I would figure if you sit on a pokerstars only live dealer blackjack and say on 888 you sit on a shared evolution table no issue right? What if you sit at 3 different live dealer blackjack tables? Is that allowed? Just curious but im sure no one here does that right? Since if you do this, well you could play 2 spots on the table etc.


Im also wondering why are the most popular online casinos ones i never heard of? So those online casinos are more preferred than evolution gaming? Again i trust pokerstars, 888 and partypoker since these are legit sites.
 

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pokerstars slots are the the best paying slots i have ever played on constant cashouts i used to play a lot of poker on there but if i made a withdrawal i felt something just switched bad beat after bad beat
 

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I have accounts on pokerstars, 888poker and partypoker. Basically i have accounts at poker sites since i play poker. I never played live dealer before but would consider it compared to online blackjack or roulette that is basically against the computer. That to me is basically playing against rigged machine etc and im sure many of you feel this way right?

In my opinion if you want to play table games then playing with a Live Dealer is the only way to go. It's the only way that you can see the cards being shuffled and dealt or the ball being placed in a real roulette wheel. RNG is artificial, so that's why I'd stick to Live Gamaing.


Anyways, what live dealer casinos do most of you play at? I read about online casinos here where i never even heard of these names. Thus if i heard these casinos i would think it sounds like a scam site if you know what i mean but apparently many of these seem to be recommended here.

I'm based in the UK and as we operate in regulated environment only a certain number of software providers can offer their games to us. Evolution is the biggest operator by far in Europe, so I tend to play at casinos that offer their games and are perhaps more European foucused. Leo Vegas has a very good selection of live casino solutions and are accredited here. They also have games to suit a Latin market. I also play at Genting & Royal Panda and for non Evolution games Energy Casino.


For live dealer blackjack, roulette and those other live dealer games, what is the most popular online casino here? Would you guys say pokerstars, 888poker and partypoker all seem legit? Also im curious but does partypoker have their own special tables like pokerstars and 888poker since those 2 sites have pokerstars and 888 specific tables? I know that all these tables are under evolution gaming. I have accounts at other sites but those dont seem to be as legit as pokerstars/888/partycasino though. Also assuming you play on those evolution gaming tables, it doesn't matter if you sit at a pokerstars, 888 or partycasino right?

I don't know what you mean by legit? 888 doesn't have a particularly good reputation with players. Just do some googling to find out. They do however have a very good Live Casino (Evolution) and a big set of dedicated tables which are hosted at Evolution. So I have no problem in recommending the games. PokerStars also have their own dedicated tables at Evolution. I've not played there so can't comment on how Pokerstars are as a casino. Sounds like you already have your opinion from your poker play.


Wondering something else. But are there people here that actually multitable live dealer blackjack? For example sit on one table of 888 live dealer blackjack and one table partycasino blackjack? Is that allowed assuming both tables are evolution gaming and shared between pokerstars, 888 and partycasino? I would figure if you sit on a pokerstars only live dealer blackjack and say on 888 you sit on a shared evolution table no issue right? What if you sit at 3 different live dealer blackjack tables? Is that allowed? Just curious but im sure no one here does that right? Since if you do this, well you could play 2 spots on the table etc.

The facility for multi table exists in the Evolution Software. Some people like to play multi table and/or multi seat when playing blackjack. It's not my cup of tea, but the facility is there if you want to use it.

As far as I know there are no restrictions on you playing at the same generic table through different casinos as the same time. Blackjack isn't a game that the player can influence, you are playing against the dealer. It would be the same as playing multi seat which is allowed. I'm not sure why you'd want to do it.?


Im also wondering why are the most popular online casinos ones i never heard of? So those online casinos are more preferred than evolution gaming? Again i trust pokerstars, 888 and partypoker since these are legit sites.

I'm not sure for the reasons why you've never heard of the popular online casinos, but if you decide to try one then make sure it's from the Accredited list.
 

paulyjustin

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Hey guys questions on this.


What if you bet the table minimum and after a while, start betting real big? Example say at an evolution gaming table, you bet the 5 or 10 dollar minimum. Or don't even bet at all. Then suddenly you start betting 500 per hand or something ridiculous. Do they notice? Do they care?


Because i read people mentioned card counting isn't profitable in live dealer blackjack due to them only going half the deck right? Is there math that shows this be true? However, aren't there many situations where it would be profitable such as its 1/3rd into the deck and the count is very high etc?


Do the dealers know how much you bet per bet? Or they only know what are your actions such as hit, stand or double down etc?


What about the site you play on such as pokerstars casino or 888casino? Do they look at your history and then see okay this guy is betting 5 per hand. Then after a while, he sits out. Then starts betting 500/hand and thats when count is very high etc. Then either sits out or bets the table minimum. Im very curious what happens here. If you do this in a real casino, obviously even going 5 or 10 dollar minimum bet and suddenly betting say 50 or 100 would already get noticed. But im curious about live dealer blackjack.


The thing is if you do this in say live roulette or those other live dealer games, obviously they never care at all for those right since there is no edge to be had? Thus if someone plays 3 card poker and plays 5 per hand then suddenly bets 500 per hand etc... obviously there isn't anything to look at. But very curious on live dealer here. Has anyone done this and if so, did anything happen? Im sure they do look to see how much you are betting per hand and your bet size right? Now what if you bet size is 5 or 10 the minimum but only max bet say 50 per hand. Most likely nothing will happen at all right?


Really curious about you guys who play the live dealer blackjack.
 

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Hey guys questions on this.


What if you bet the table minimum and after a while, start betting real big? Example say at an evolution gaming table, you bet the 5 or 10 dollar minimum. Or don't even bet at all. Then suddenly you start betting 500 per hand or something ridiculous. Do they notice? Do they care?

I doubt Evolution or any of the other software providers care. It's not their money that is being risked. They make their money through licensing / providing the games and they take a revenue share of what is made on the table. I would imagine that it's more important for the casinos to monitor this and I would be surprised if they didn't have alerts in place to notify them when a player is betting erratically or for big stakes. It's in their interests to monitor this.

Because i read people mentioned card counting isn't profitable in live dealer blackjack due to them only going half the deck right? Is there math that shows this be true? However, aren't there many situations where it would be profitable such as its 1/3rd into the deck and the count is very high etc?

I'm not a card counter but I'd be surprised if you couldn't use the technique for the first half of the shoe that is dealt. Perhaps someone with more knowledge on the subject will be able to answer more fully.


Do the dealers know how much you bet per bet? Or they only know what are your actions such as hit, stand or double down etc?

Dealers at Evolution don't know how much is being bet, but some of the other solution providers do let their dealers see that info.


What about the site you play on such as pokerstars casino or 888casino? Do they look at your history and then see okay this guy is betting 5 per hand. Then after a while, he sits out. Then starts betting 500/hand and thats when count is very high etc. Then either sits out or bets the table minimum. Im very curious what happens here. If you do this in a real casino, obviously even going 5 or 10 dollar minimum bet and suddenly betting say 50 or 100 would already get noticed. But im curious about live dealer blackjack.

I'm not sure what real time stats are available to the casinos, but i'd be very surprised if they didn't try and emulate what happens in a land based casino. The pit boss knows what is happening on all tables, what money is being change up for chips, what's being bet and what's being cashed out etc etc. Whether there is someone monitoring this 24x7 or they just review exceptions the following day I don't know. Perhaps one of the casino reps could comment. The same must be true for anyone betting strangely and maybe winning big.


The thing is if you do this in say live roulette or those other live dealer games, obviously they never care at all for those right since there is no edge to be had? Thus if someone plays 3 card poker and plays 5 per hand then suddenly bets 500 per hand etc... obviously there isn't anything to look at. But very curious on live dealer here. Has anyone done this and if so, did anything happen? I'm sure they do look to see how much you are betting per hand and your bet size right? Now what if you bet size is 5 or 10 the minimum but only max bet say 50 per hand. Most likely nothing will happen at all right?

Really curious about you guys who play the live dealer blackjack.

See above. Also I only image it becomes an issue if you're a player that constantly wins and wins big. The casinos will take an interest in you and it's not unknown for players to have their accounts closed without notice. As far as I know that happens quite a lot with Sports betting players.
 
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