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Vinyl,<br />
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I have no idea why we are on a "partners" page of Intercasino. It may well be a reciprocal link thing that was set up a long time ago, probably for Google or the like. We certainly have no connection to them, and we do not to my knowledge have any link back to them now. In fact, I will email them to let them know.<br />
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lojo - I was not ignoring you, I just didn't realise your question was directed at me personally. I do agree with ugaboga in that white labels allow to market our software to places that we may otherwise not not reach by marketing it ourselves. There are many other benefits such as being able to harness the various talents of the marketers, who also have the advantage of being able to market their own brand.<br />
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Most of the online casinos on the net could be viewed almost as "white label", as they are forms of MG, PT casinos etc.<br />
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Vinyl - As we spoke about at length some time ago, the ownacasino site allows people to have their own basic template to promote the software - a kind of "mini-site". That is what those sites are. Of course they are not as good as a fully branded White Label but we do try to keep them updated and relevant. Again, you compare us to this mintlasvegas thing that was spammed around - but I do ask you this, in the whole time the ownacasino program has been running, have you ever received any kind of spam about the Casino Lobby? I doubt it, and this would seem to show that we are not like this other program. I'm very disappointed that you still think that we are connected to Intercasino in some way, or harbouring some kind of "scandal", and it looks like no matter what I say to reassure you, that you will continue to question us.<br />
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I'm not sure of the benefit in me trying to continue to contribute to this discussion, as every posting I make seems to generate a new "scandal" and alleged connections with other sites. It concentrates the glare of the bad side of the whole "White Label" issue on our company and encourages people to speculate. There ARE companies who are running white label programs with far less transparency and with impunity. I would much prefer the focus to be on companies who DO treat their players badly, who DON'T pay players and affiliates and who are getting away with it - rather than a company who are trying to do the right thing.
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I have no idea why we are on a "partners" page of Intercasino.
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</blockquote> This contradicts the earlier impression you gave about your clients who use these basic marketing sites being carefully vetted and monitored, yet you didn't even know about the "dayandnite" basic marketing site at all!!!<br />
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but I do ask you this, in the whole time the ownacasino program has been running, have you ever received any kind of spam about the Casino Lobby?
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No, not for Casino Lobby, but these skins/white labels were not intended for spamming players, they were intended for saturation spamming of the search engines, which is why Intercasino have used them, and clearly what you initially intended them for:-<br />
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but I do ask you this, in the whole time the ownacasino program has been running, have you ever received any kind of spam about the Casino Lobby?
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Oddly enough, despite these countless skins, I have seen absolutely NO marketing for Casino Lobby (other than a very brief appearance at GoneGambling), so whatever your clients are up to, it isn't marketing Casino Lobby to potential players.<br />
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I have thought about it, and I believe that the sole purpose of the Casino Lobby white label program has been to enable clients who run "proper" casinos to spam search engines with multiple links to what to Google looks like many other different casino sites, complete with GENUINE link to a downloadable application. This design circumvents the anti spamming protocols Google have designed to weed out fatuous fake pages leading to undeserved ranking boosting. Were there no link to an actual download, Google would probably work out that the pages were fake single page sites and not count them for ranking purposes.<br />
In addition to this, there ARE some genuine sub licenced casinos, such as casinomillionaire.<br />
It seems that Intercasino have more than one link to Casino Lobby, under various skins. This will confuse the hell out of most players, and they will quickly assume that Casino Lobby is dodgy, just as the persistent spam for the Microgaming casinos through skins such as Mint Las Vegas has discredited those MG casinos that are found to be downloaded under false pretences.<br />
The ONLY difference between the two is who the spam is directed at, with the MG casinos, it is E-mail spam, but with Casino Lobby, it is search engine spam.<br />
The partners page at Intercasino is clearly NOT a genuine attempt to market Casino Lobby, and this is against the terms of your deals with "confidential" clients, yet your systems lost track of this one and allowed this kind of usage of your white label skins. There may well be other sites that use buried links to casino lobby in a similar way, and if any are found, it would show that the Intercasino one is not just a one-off cock-up, but a systematic method of usage of the scheme. I can certainly see this as a perfectly valid reason for the rather odd decision of clients who are supposedly marketing the casino to attract players to have their business identities kept under wraps.<br />
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If it is Intercasino doing this all on it's own, without permission, this is equally bizzarre, since Intercasino is one of the most respected brands, and has been accredited here for ages.<br />
All this gives the impression this whole industry has a huge "sleazy" underbelly that tarnishes not just the known rogue casinos, where we would expect this kind of behaviour, but the well respected brands too.<br />
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This would not be the first time, as last year Jackpot Factory was caught out running the most unacceptable scheme imaginable in order to boost ranking in Google, and when they were found out it cost them more than it was worth. This is pretty tame compared to that, but that doesn't make it right. When we use Google, we want clear and honest results, we don't need hundreds of irrelevant hits, and incorrect indications as to result relevance, that could mislead us - in this case, Google shows an entirely unwarranted connection between Intercasino and Casino Lobby, and boosts Intercasino up in the rankings, especially when general search terms are used, such as, perhaps, "Casino Lobby"<img src="/forums/styles/default/casinomeister/smilies/wink.gif" class="smilie" loading="lazy" alt=";)" title="Wink ;)" data-shortname=";)" /></div>