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More NetEnt stolen software/Rip offs

Discussion in 'Online Casinos' started by maphesto, Dec 17, 2014.

    Dec 17, 2014
  1. maphesto

    maphesto Ueber Meister CAG MM webmeister

    Location:
    Sweden
    This is cut and pasted from emails forwarded to NetEnt through Bryan (from me).

    Since investigating this issue with Tobwin:

    http://www.casinomeister.com/forums/showthread.php?t=64876

    I noticed that xx77jackpot.com also had a strange seal on their page AND they seemed to have NetEnt software. I immediately alerted both maxd and ThePogg about it. However, there were no way to test the game in freemode (play money mode).

    The site offered 5€ free to test the games. It took a while (many days before they credited the 5) but one day finally I was able to test. :)

    I noticed right away that it was crooked. :eek2:

    I started to play JATB and when the floating Jack and the Beanstalk symbol was in a winning combination, the win money was added to the cash amount right away.:eek2: On real NetEnt software the win amount isn't moved to the cash amount until the whole spin (feature) is done.

    It became worse. I closed the game and reopened it later and then the starting screen was a winning combination. See picture tweakedjack3.jpg. It was just to click and win. :rolleyes:

    Following pictures of JATB shows that the floating wilds dont give a win. :oops: I had to click spin, even though we know that the feature "runs itself" until feature is over.

    Last catch I made was to see that you couldn't reduce number of lines on Flowers or Frankenstein. Then my 5 was gone and I couldn't test more.

    When checking servers/registrants for 77jackpot I found xx1bet2bet.com which seems to have NetEnt clones to some regions, but not mine. I can’t test them, because when I log in, I can't find the games.

    Then I found same registrant for the infamous xxfuturiticasino.com, they had working NetEnt games (rip offs) which didn't behave at all as they should. They are under the “HD slots-tab”

    You can change the number of lines on Gonzo as an example. On Blood Suckers you can only change the number of betting coins in big steps. You can’t bet 2 coins/line, you have to choose either 1 or 5 coins/line or more.

    I think it’s pretty alarming that Futuriti seem to have real quickfire games. See for yourself if they are real or rip offs. I mean both MG games and Nextgen as Medusa. Even if MG and NetEnt are competitors, I don't want to think that MG want to do business with crooks.

    Suggestion: Place 77jackpot, 1bet2bet and Futuriti in the Rogue pit!

    Some screenshots:
    More NetEnt stolen software/Rip offs: bloodsuckersfuturiti_new.jpg,Dec 17, 2014
    More NetEnt stolen software/Rip offs: gonzofuturiti_new.jpg,Dec 17, 2014
    More NetEnt stolen software/Rip offs: tweakedjack3_new.jpg,Dec 17, 2014
     
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  2. Dec 17, 2014
  3. ThePOGG

    ThePOGG Meister Member webmeister

    Occupation:
    Casino Affiliate
    Location:
    UK
    Hey maphesto - that was some really good work!

    I've looked at the registration information for 77jackpot and you're right they are listing 1bet2bet, with email addresses directing to that operation. I've already added Tobwin and 77Jackpot to my Blacklist and will be including 1bet2bet later today.

    Looking on the 1bet2bet terms and conditions page I noticed this;

    The Merge Gaming Network run a fair number of properties none of which I'm particularly familiar with. The use of the phrase "a trading name of" concerns me as it suggests that 1bet2bet are more than a whitelable, but are actually owned by Merge. Anyone with more knowledge of company structuring care to weigh in on this?

    As to Futuriti, I'm not seeing the connection to Merge, 1bet2bet or 77Jackpot in their registration information? If they've been running stolen games send me a link to the thread and I'll Blacklist them as well (they're already Not Recommended for other issues).
     
  4. Dec 17, 2014
  5. dunover

    dunover Unofficial T&C's Editor Staff Member CAG PABnononaccred PABnonaccred PABinit mm3 webmeister

    Occupation:
    International Money Launderer
    Location:
    the bus shelter, opposite GCHQ Benhall
    Yes, they are part of the Merge Network:
    here is a list of their Poker and Casino Properties.....


    1Bet2Bet.com
    Aced.com
    AllPro.ag
    AllStarSportsBook.com
    Belmont.ag
    BestECasino.com
    BetLM.eu
    BetOnUSA.ag
    BetUSA.ag
    Bulldog777.com
    CarbonPoker.ag
    Ezbets.ag
    GeoBet.com
    GR88.com
    HollywoodSportsbook.eu
    iHoldem.com
    MuchosPoker.com (Merge)
    MySportsbook.ag
    OddsPoker.ag
    OnlyWinners.com
    PokerBilly.com
    ReeferPoker.co.uk
    Sportsbook.ag
    Sportsbooks.com
    StridePoker.com
    SuperSportsbook.com
    WorldwideGamble.com
    YouWin.com



    Affiliya:
    Affiliya.com - FUTURITI is one of the oldest gambling portals in Russian and is present in the market for the past five years, from 2007. It offers Russian affiliates commissions plans incorporates casino, poker, sports and financial betting.

    Futuriti and Merge are both part of the 'MyAffiliates' network too.
    You must register/login in order to see the link.
     
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  6. Dec 17, 2014
  7. maphesto

    maphesto Ueber Meister CAG MM webmeister

    Location:
    Sweden
    No link for thread, go to xxhttps://futuriticasino.com/en and take the "HD slots" tab and there you have this:

    More NetEnt stolen software/Rip offs: HDslotsgonzofuturiti.jpg,Dec 17, 2014

    Go ahead, blacklist them. ;)

    I will check my files about the registrant now as well.
     
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  8. Dec 17, 2014
  9. maphesto

    maphesto Ueber Meister CAG MM webmeister

    Location:
    Sweden
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  10. Dec 17, 2014
  11. ThePOGG

    ThePOGG Meister Member webmeister

    Occupation:
    Casino Affiliate
    Location:
    UK
    I realise that they are part of the Merge Network what I'm getting at is are they OWNED and operated by Merge? For instance Casino Luck and Guts are part of the EveryMatrix network, but they are not OWNED by EveryMatrix, nor do EveryMatrix make management decisions for them. That being the case it would be unfair to punish these venues due to transgressions by other casinos operating on the EveryMatrix network. If 1Bet2Bet are owned and managed by Merge it would be fair to conclude that Merge have had a direct hand in the implementation of 77Jackpot. If Merge simply provide various infrastructure to 1Bet2Bet, they may well not have any knowledge of other activities that 1Bet2Bet are engaged in.


    Like above I don't think it's fair to tarnish the large number of big brands on the MyAffiliates network due to this issue - Betsson, Bodog, Europlay - these groups won't have had any knowledge or hand in what Futuriti's doing, they've just outsources some of the affiliate acquisition to the same company.
     
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  12. Dec 17, 2014
  13. ThePOGG

    ThePOGG Meister Member webmeister

    Occupation:
    Casino Affiliate
    Location:
    UK
    Looking up Cyberdata in a reverse whois I get 9 domains owned by this company (see attached screenshot). It's obvious that the first one is 1bet2bet and the second is futuriti, anyone got any ideas about the other 7?

    More NetEnt stolen software/Rip offs: 77jackpot-cyberdata-smaller.jpg,Dec 17, 2014
     
  14. Dec 17, 2014
  15. maphesto

    maphesto Ueber Meister CAG MM webmeister

    Location:
    Sweden
    I think one of them is novoboomlottery

    More NetEnt stolen software/Rip offs: novoboomlottery.jpg,Dec 17, 2014
     
  16. Dec 17, 2014
  17. maphesto

    maphesto Ueber Meister CAG MM webmeister

    Location:
    Sweden
    Another is a betting site, ligastavok.com.

    @ThePogg: Why did you ask for those others? ;) I will sit here all day figuring the others out!

    EDIT: Next one is liga-stavok.com

    You see? I will find them!

    Edit 2: The last two don't fit in the pattern, but they are theirs.
     
    Last edited: Dec 17, 2014
  18. Dec 17, 2014
  19. ThePOGG

    ThePOGG Meister Member webmeister

    Occupation:
    Casino Affiliate
    Location:
    UK

    Simply put - this company has been running casinos, as evidenced by 77Jackpot and Futuriti, that have been engaged in all sorts of unethical behaviour. As such any property operated by this group gets the same Blacklisted status.
     
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  20. Dec 17, 2014
  21. maphesto

    maphesto Ueber Meister CAG MM webmeister

    Location:
    Sweden
    I knew the answer. You just made me sit here by the computer to find the rest. :D
     
  22. Dec 17, 2014
  23. Tirilej

    Tirilej Still a Lady CAG

    Occupation:
    Breathing
    Location:
    Sweden
    That's sad of course, but you're doing a great job :thumbsup:

    I will never get that knowledge you have for digging up this kind of stuff. So just keep working boy ;)
     
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  24. Dec 17, 2014
  25. maphesto

    maphesto Ueber Meister CAG MM webmeister

    Location:
    Sweden
    wezzet.net

    A betting site, seem to be gone now. Found stuff on wayback machine.

    Edit: next one is oscaryard.com, a sportsbetting site in what I think is russian.
     
    Last edited: Dec 17, 2014
  26. Dec 17, 2014
  27. dunover

    dunover Unofficial T&C's Editor Staff Member CAG PABnononaccred PABnonaccred PABinit mm3 webmeister

    Occupation:
    International Money Launderer
    Location:
    the bus shelter, opposite GCHQ Benhall
    You must register/login in order to see the link.
     
    Last edited by a moderator: Dec 12, 2017
    4 people like this.
  28. Dec 17, 2014
  29. dougmanct

    dougmanct Experienced Member

    Occupation:
    software development
    Location:
    United States
    The real big fish you should be looking to uncover is not so much the individual casinos offering counterfeit NetEnt games, but the provider of the counterfeit games that I bet most or all of these casinos have in common. I've been investigating this recently.

    Not going to call out the name of the provider here because I don't feel like having a hit put out on me.

    But anyone that knows how to "view source" in a browser can discover it.

    NetEnt would be well advised to takedown this domain and the people behind it.

    You're welcome.
     
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  30. Dec 17, 2014
  31. Casinomeister

    Casinomeister Forum Cheermeister Staff Member

    Occupation:
    Homemaker
    Location:
    Bierland
    Netent got back to me and confirmed that 1bet2bet.com and Futuriti do not appear to be their customers.
     
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  32. Dec 17, 2014
  33. syntynyt

    syntynyt kuollut

    Location:
    ~
    for the record, i took Futuriti 100 no deposit promo from a spam mail in early months of 2014 and ive withdrawn 100 from it, including my 50 deposit and i was happy before being skeptical to deposit 50 in a unknown casino. so they are reliable. i will attach payment confirmation if i found it. they did not had netent or mg back then, only novo. i see gonzo quest is a bit different here, with selectable lines, autobet etc, they actually spent time to make it better. i'm broken feelings for netent, this is why i will take tomorrow welcome bonus and play some novos. karma, beach!
     
  34. Dec 17, 2014
  35. maphesto

    maphesto Ueber Meister CAG MM webmeister

    Location:
    Sweden
    Here they have NetEnt at a Bitcoin casino, are there any NetEnt experts who want to test them in demo mode?

    xxhttp://btc-casino.io/games/netent

    They have two versions of Gonzo's Quest, one of them is "deluxe" :D Isn't that a Novomatic system?

    :confused::eek:

    Ah, that's why I am a member here. To know where to find decent casinos to invest my money. :thumbsup: :rolleyes:

    ;)
     
  36. Dec 17, 2014
  37. Casinomeister

    Casinomeister Forum Cheermeister Staff Member

    Occupation:
    Homemaker
    Location:
    Bierland
    I am not sure if I understand you correctly, but I hope you are discontinuing depositing there. You do understand that if a casino has pirated software, it means that they control the backend and the payouts. I would guarantee that either the games are rigged or set at a very low RTP.

    And if they have the gonads to rip off a major software supplier, how do you think they will treat their players?
     
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  38. Dec 17, 2014
  39. miso

    miso Meister Member MM

    Occupation:
    accountant
    Location:
    Ireland
    I just checked Futuriti and it seems they added Novomatic and NetEnt is gone. It won't let me load slots in real mode with zero balance,
    but in fun play Book of Ra is like nothing I've seen before. Or mostly heard, because sound effects are just atrocious and definitely not original.
    Bet bar is slightly different and when I hit free spins, that opening book looks like badly drawn insert. 100% stolen IMO.

    And then found Gonzo's Quest at the bottom, this looks like a better copy, but again, sound is slightly different. Not kosher at all.
     

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