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    :eek:

    Web editing suite aside, it's everywhere B, masses of affiliate sites are being scraped and then thousands of sites hacked for these hackers to rank highly for type in terms in google. Interestingly reading the Fortune Affiliate Forum on AGD they have shut down some of them. Now what happens to the money accrued by the casinos from said affiliate/hacker that they have shut down? Do they give it to charity, as one member on AGD suggested?......

    Additionally the programs know who these individual or individuals plying this trade are. So they are in the best position to do something positive about it.

    Let's go back several years and my own personal bugbear, the Palace Group. Now part of Buffalo Partners who have been tarred with the same brush that Wagershare were and quite rightly too IMO. Incidentally I pointed out several years ago that Referback/Betway/Wagershare and also Fortune are ultimately one and the same.

    All paths lead to Durban Capetown I was told. This has pretty much been borne out.
     
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  4. Mar 12, 2015
  5. Webzcas

    Webzcas Winter is Coming! Staff Member

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    Copied from the post Andy made when roguing Buffalo Partners on AGD:

    You must register/login in order to see the link.

    Back in 2013 when Referback were denying or side stepping any link with the Palace Group

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    Sent this information which I am posting here. Below is a list of sites used by this hacker or hackers or organisations :cool:

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    wheretoplay.net
    yourcasinoonline.net
    yourcasinoonline.org
    yourcasinosite.net
    yourgamblingonline.com

    count = 21

    Some CloudFlare-user domains with a direct-connect IP address in 5.45.65.0/24

    5.45.65.112 byxta.net
    5.45.65.112 torrentsbum.org
    5.45.65.118 skripta.ru
    5.45.65.167 unlocktorrent.com
    5.45.65.200 kinospeed.com
    5.45.65.216 cloudz.me
    5.45.65.239 10onlinecasinos.net
    5.45.65.239 bestcasinoarticles.net
    5.45.65.239 bestcasinoslist.net
    5.45.65.239 casinohunter.me
    5.45.65.239 casinoinsider.me
    5.45.65.239 casinosite24.org
    5.45.65.239 gamblingonline24.net
    5.45.65.239 gamblingonline24.org
    5.45.65.239 gamblingsite24.com
    5.45.65.239 letsplay.name
    5.45.65.239 makemoneyathome.name
    5.45.65.239 mosttrustedcasinos.name
    5.45.65.239 playnow.me
    5.45.65.239 topcasinosite.net
    5.45.65.239 topgamblingonline.org
    5.45.65.239 topgamblingsite.org
    5.45.65.239 wheretoplay.net
    5.45.65.239 yourcasinoonline.net
    5.45.65.239 yourcasinoonline.org
    5.45.65.239 yourcasinosite.net
    5.45.65.239 yourgamblingonline.com
    5.45.65.37 banan.tv
    5.45.65.42 be-strong.org
    5.45.65.87 online-film-smotret.ru
    5.45.65.91 ruspecmen.com


    Incidentally I have a lot of access requests on OCR from several IP addresses in the same range ball park.
     
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  8. Mar 14, 2015
  9. Casinomeister

    Casinomeister Forum Cheermeister Staff Member

    Occupation:
    Homemaker
    Location:
    Bierland
    Thanks Dave. This guy needs some serious blacklisting. Come this week, I'll check on who's "partnering" with this douche.
     
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  10. Mar 16, 2015
  11. Webzcas

    Webzcas Winter is Coming! Staff Member

    Occupation:
    Webmaster
    Location:
    Block S25, South Stand, Ashton Gate, BS3
    Update on this. I have pointed in the direction of this thread someone from the 888 Affiliate team. As I told him, I will not work with any of the sites that this hacker promotes, 888 being one of the casinos. I have also suggested it would be a good move if not only they shut down the said affiliates account but also report his details to the relevant authorities.

    Lets see what gives......
     
  12. Mar 30, 2015
  13. Webzcas

    Webzcas Winter is Coming! Staff Member

    Occupation:
    Webmaster
    Location:
    Block S25, South Stand, Ashton Gate, BS3
    Now another load, this one targeting the term 'online casino reviewer' the name of my main site.

    xxhttp://electronics-sourcing.com/play/online-casino-reviewer.html

    Promoting crap such as Spin Palace and 888 again.

    I have tweeted the owner of the site and tweeted the url of this thread. Hopefully they will be able to also bear weight on the ROGUE affiliate programs which turn a blind eye to this activity.

    WINTER IS COMING for all those affiliate programs and online casinos which CONDONE this activity!!

    You are all officially on my SHIT LIST! :mad:
     
  14. Mar 30, 2015
  15. kwblue

    kwblue Webmaster webmeister

    Occupation:
    Engineer
    Location:
    USA
    I think Wagershare is a part of the whole hacking mess (IMO). PM or email me and I will share my thoughts since I (and some others) have done a bit of sleuthing.
     
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  16. Apr 1, 2015
  17. Webzcas

    Webzcas Winter is Coming! Staff Member

    Occupation:
    Webmaster
    Location:
    Block S25, South Stand, Ashton Gate, BS3
    :thumbsup: Been saying this for a long time....

    It goes further though...

    I'll send you an email Andy.
     
  18. Apr 1, 2015
  19. incrediblestuff

    incrediblestuff SearchingForTheHolyGrail! CAG webmeister

    Occupation:
    Currently: Self employed, Previously: Manager
    Location:
    Mostly the Netherlands
    Just to add, that last comment from kwblue is just another bit of fuel in the fire of my dark suspicions.. I would love to know what that refers to, and would apreciate a p.m. to a place where i can check this info.

    It is due to still being quite green in the whole affiliate technology, that i have failed to state what exactly is on my mind, but i mentioned before, when Webzcas had that other thread going, that i too have had my suspicions about the scale of things that were off limits going on in the backend. The whole business is just so dependent on trust, and knowing people, it ;s just too damn unlikely there wouldn't be a group of greedy bastards, with some skill, to scheme up grand attempts to screw over the lot, without them even knowing.

    Of course greed always brings them to light in the end, or at least most of the time. So,please keep updating the thread, or maybe p.m. me like i asked, with some more deeper info, maybe i can contribute more if i know more.

    Cheers.
     
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  20. Apr 1, 2015
  21. Webzcas

    Webzcas Winter is Coming! Staff Member

    Occupation:
    Webmaster
    Location:
    Block S25, South Stand, Ashton Gate, BS3
    You have hit the nail on the head there Incredible Stuff. Trust is key when it comes to being an affiliate and also a player as it happens. Go through the archives here and over on KWBlue's excellent site You must register/login in order to see the link. and I have been banging on about the Palace Group in particular for nearly five years now.

    But it is not just the Palace Group. The recent creation of Bullshit Partners brought this to the light and confirmed my suspicions concerning Referback and the Palace Group. Other programs are involved but as of yet kept separate from Bullshit Parners. Here is a clue, an old established program which moved lots of affiliates down to 25% is also fully embroiled in this.

    There are a lot of casinos involved, but the ownership when examined only involves a handful of individuals.

    We affiliates have been taken for fools and in some instances to the cleaners by these groups.

    Notwithstanding the thousands of sites that have also been hacked, yet programs quite happy to sit on their hands and do nothing about it..

    Winter is indeed coming!
     
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  22. Apr 2, 2015
  23. Webzcas

    Webzcas Winter is Coming! Staff Member

    Occupation:
    Webmaster
    Location:
    Block S25, South Stand, Ashton Gate, BS3
    Well the program which is now responsible for the affiliate marketing of Spin Palace, which appears on countless number of these hacked sites, now has a special write up on my own site.

    Read a potted history of my own dealings with The Palace Group / Buffalo Partners.

    Buffalo Partners
     
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  24. Apr 2, 2015
  25. incrediblestuff

    incrediblestuff SearchingForTheHolyGrail! CAG webmeister

    Occupation:
    Currently: Self employed, Previously: Manager
    Location:
    Mostly the Netherlands
    I really like the re-brand! :lolup: They should adapt it.
    Another thing i found out recently:

    A good while back i signed up to Casino X through a somewhat dodgy affiliate.. i am saying dodgy in retrospect, since the offer he/she promoted on their site was never honored, and the Casino in question wasn't prepared to honor it for them. This took quite a bit of effort from my end, just to get this info. The Affiliate never responded to my questions per mail, or on his/her site, and even had the audacity to remove my honest question, for which i specifically made a forum account, and my added disclaimer. (along the lines of, this offer isn't valid anymore please update or remove) So then i knew this was a tard and i was really pissed off.

    Much later i was approached by an affiliate manager or employee, still not sure about his actual role there, who asked me to review their site, and list them. I then told him about that experience, and that i would refuse to ever deposit there, since i was tagged to an a$$hole affiliate and would never ever risk making him even just one cent!

    After a bit of back and forth, i was told that i was now de-tagged.
    Special circumstances maybe, i was of course pleased with that, but also thought to myself: that wasn't all too hard...
    So, i would love to hear your opinion on that: is this practice o.k. in your books, or is it not?

    Just a small example of things that make you go hmm..
     
  26. Apr 2, 2015
  27. Webzcas

    Webzcas Winter is Coming! Staff Member

    Occupation:
    Webmaster
    Location:
    Block S25, South Stand, Ashton Gate, BS3
    It happens, it is the nature of the beast. Trust is paramount. Hence realistically I can count on hand the number of programs I implicitly trust. The key is to weed out the bad programs. Easier said then done, when there are many many bad programs.
     
  28. Apr 3, 2015
  29. vinylweatherman

    vinylweatherman You type well loads CAG MM

    Occupation:
    STILL At Leisure
    Location:
    United Kingdom
    If they had closed this affiliate down, which they should have done by looking at your case, then de tagging is fine, it would happen anyway.

    HOWEVER, there is also the suggestion that they may "de tag on request", or even be prepared to use it as a "bribe" to someone they want to charm into either depositing, or promoting them on a well exposed portal. This could mean that genuine well behaved affiliates could be losing their players because said player has "cut a deal" with the casino in their own mutual interests. It then doesn't take much more of a moral slide to use de tagging for other reasons, maybe even taking players from other affiliates and giving them to a webmaster they REALLY need to impress into allowing them on the site. It's already a widely held belief that many programs will "skim" a few players in order to reduce the commissions they have to pay out to affiliates, and it's very hard for affiliates to tell the difference between a player getting skimmed off by the program, or one that has just decided to stop playing there.
     

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