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Monthly Meister Slot Tourney 3Dice/32 red should more than spins be considered?

Discussion in 'Online Casinos' started by BMWSTACK, Sep 1, 2010.

    Sep 1, 2010
  1. BMWSTACK

    BMWSTACK Ueber Meister

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    I play on the Casinomeister 3dice monthly slot tourney, which of course is just the number of spins. I dont know how 32red does it, but looks like the same concept.
    It seems to me that awarding a top prize to someone based upon simply the # of spins is kind of a silly concept, especially considering the top prize is $250. Why would you want to award someone a top prize that may have bet a minimum amount of money to get to the top. I always get a red ass when I see people racking up spins obviously off small bets. I for one would think that you would want to calculate the amount wagered into the equation. Now what I am requesting may be more complicated than the simple equation of the # of spins, and I understand that. I do see that 32red is now advertising secret position bonuses. Maybe something like that needs to be incorporated to make the higher depositing and higher stakes players like myself feel better about a tourney. $250 is a lot of money no matter what you get comped. $250 could probably get me an additional 5-10 minutes of play and that is always appreciated.
     
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  2. Sep 1, 2010
  3. funeral979

    funeral979 Senior Member PABaccred

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    I absolutely agree.

    While I am certaintly not a high roller, I play at 3Dice alot, and my spin average is much much higher than the 10 cent or better it has to be to be considered. Im sure my average spin is somewhere in the .75- $1.25 range. And I agree...I dont think people wagering .10-.15 should be comped such a large amount just because they have the luxury of being able to sit in front of the computer all day wagering the minimum.

    In addition, I wondered how people can rack up such a large number of spins....many of their slots are painfully slow....and the autoplay function never works properly (at least for me)
     
  4. Sep 1, 2010
  5. rockycatt

    rockycatt meistercatt CAG MM

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    well i think that as long as the player covers all the lines or equivelent [in the case were some play les lines but duoble up on line bet] then its a fair game

    if the higher rollers want they should ask enzo to have a special one for them
    lets not forget the two dollar win ticket saved the horse raceing through the depression :p
     
  6. Sep 1, 2010
  7. BMWSTACK

    BMWSTACK Ueber Meister

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    autoplayer works fine in 3dice ask someone to help you with it. It may look confusing but lot simpler than it looks. I have right click for autoplayer and left click single spin.
    If your average spin is .75-$1.25.00 you are definetley betting more than some.

    By the way thanks for chiming in funeral, the number of people thinking its fair is going to out number the # that dont because a majority spin with small bets. I come close to the top a few times with large bets. (cant imagine the amount of money being rolled in) By the way not a bitch session because i do recognize that its nice that 3dice and 32 red do this.
     
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  8. Sep 1, 2010
  9. rockycatt

    rockycatt meistercatt CAG MM

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    i agree what was winnin# of spins last month proll over 25,000:eek2:x#$1.20
    =:confused:
     
  10. Sep 2, 2010
  11. zap987

    zap987 Meister Member PABnononaccred2

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    There isn't really any way to have a tournament like this and make everyone happy. If it was total $ wagered then most of the people playing would have absolutely no chance to win anything. I'm guessing the plan here is to keep many people happy and take care of the highrollers in other ways.
     
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  12. Sep 2, 2010
  13. Nate

    Nate Ueber Meister CAG webmeister

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    Im in agreement BMW... It is frustrating for those who have wagered say $2k Vs. those who wager $200. Im sure Enzo will look into something that could be appeasing for those who wager much more. :thumbsup:
     
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  14. Sep 2, 2010
  15. Marie2473

    Marie2473 Senior Member

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    I thin that atleast at 32 red there is a minimum bet that has to be made on a spin for it to count. Not sure how high it is though!!
     
  16. Sep 2, 2010
  17. mattsgame

    mattsgame Ueber Meister CAG webmeister

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    To be honest, I think the 32Red one is fine, you have to have an average bet size of 10c a spin, and I'am pretty sure mark manually checks this.

    Although this can be manipulated (well maybe not manipulated but Strategically played) in playing 2 slots one spinning at $2-3 a spin and the other at 9c - 10c at 1 line which you will still be averaging the 10c minimum. Of course now with micros new software you can play more slot games than this and still stay within the average of 10c.

    No matter which way you did a tournament like these someone will be missing out, High Rollers or the Low Rollers, Unless they maybe did 2 separate tournaments for those in a deposit average instead of bet average.

    I cannot comment on 3Dice's as I don't know how this one works.

    cheers
    Matt
     
  18. Sep 2, 2010
  19. jelsmith

    jelsmith Zombicidal Maniac PABnononaccred

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    I agree....most of the people in the top are betting min like .15 or .30 or what have you.....i only do this on the OG game....any other time its min .90 or higher and mostly at least 2-3 dollars and when im up a little its max on most games....which means I wont be able to accumulate the number of spins it takes to get in the top of this tourney. This is def for the low rollers....Im not complaining about it...it just is what is....but $wagered being considered would be nice:D then I would have a shot!
     
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  20. Sep 2, 2010
  21. silcnlayc

    silcnlayc Just one more spin pleez! CAG MM PABnonaccred PABaccred

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    To make it truly fair, the spins should count only if all lines are played and then should be multiplied by the amount bet IMO...this is the ONLY fair way to run something such as this because as many will see, the same people continue to come into the money almost every month because they have the time to sit and spin at the lowest denominator. No offense on that but if I am spinning at $2.70 and you are spinning for 10 cents..isn't it reasonable to think that should give me 27 spins vs your one for the investment I made? Just wondering...
    I asked for this to be explained before also without any responses or luck of an answer, so I just reduced my deposits knowing I wouldn't have a chance in a million to come into play for any of these wins....
    But now it is in reverse penalizing the players that play in short spurts at higher rates...

    Where is the happy medium? Allow the same low rollers to win each and every month? Or allow the short term high betting players a chance with the denomination of coins to count as spins since they do not have the pleasure of playing for hours as some low rollers might have?

    .
     
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  22. Sep 2, 2010
  23. jelsmith

    jelsmith Zombicidal Maniac PABnononaccred

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    I honestly have no idea how the low rollers can sit there betting min and spinning all day....I could never.....:notworthy

    I agree Sylc there should be a happy medium somewhere....and you are right most of the winners month after month are the same low rollers...Im not saying its not ok to low roll....but many of us that bet a lot more are kinda getting left out in the cold a lil bit.
     
  24. Sep 2, 2010
  25. zap987

    zap987 Meister Member PABnononaccred2

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    Well my point is that you can't have a happy medium in a tournament like this. Every tournament will have an optimal way to play and people will figure it out and play that way. The only solution would really be to have 2 tournaments, one for wagering and one for spins or something similar.

    While the current tournament is won by "low rollers" the situation wouldn't change much if it was total wagering instead, it would be the same people winning month after month, just different people. Also, even at $0.10 spins 150.000 spins does end up being $15000 wagered so not sure that can be called lowrolling.

    I did win $20 or something in last months tournament and I'm guessing I would have placed quite a bit higher if it was wagering instead. I am sure Enzo could set up another tournament for highest wagering but I wonder if the interest would really be that big, most likely the comp points gained from the wagering would be far more than the actual tournament prize and it just makes more sense to take care of highrollers in different ways.
     
  26. Sep 2, 2010
  27. rockycatt

    rockycatt meistercatt CAG MM

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    the answer to your query i believe woud just be a larger amount reg buy in turny with no re buy's
    just my .02 cents respectfuly R C
     
  28. Sep 2, 2010
  29. Nate

    Nate Ueber Meister CAG webmeister

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    I don't class myself as a high roller... There are occasions i up my bet to max and there are occasions i play lower bets. I prefer playing more than the minimum bet. I'm certain if i took the $100 to $500 balances and more and low rolled at absolute minimum, I too would be spinning enough to get into the top 3.. Well... All of u.. BMW and Jel included .. lol..:p

    In response to Zap..Comp points would not make much of a difference.. it would stay the same as what we are wagering now.. unless someone is chasing the top award (which i doubt on wagering cos that could be really expensive)

    In all fairness, you want to reward your best depositors and wagerers... (Not implying that 3dice does not - They do their BEST) and those that play minimum can up their game to also stand a chance...

    Maybe upping the minimum bet for spins to count or counting how many times the coin amount (assuming max lines) could be a viable idea (like Silc mentioned) ... BTW I'm just throwing ideas and it would ultimately be up to Casino Management to decide ... so Peace and don't :axeman: me :p

    Nate
     
  30. Sep 2, 2010
  31. aceking123

    aceking123 Ueber Meister CAG PABnononaccred MM

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    good point im with bmw on this one , last month i played a fair ammount at 3 dice thought i did alot of spins, my stakes was for fair ammounts ,im realy not going to sit there everyday for hours at @15p stakes, thats when you get those hits which i play for with bigger stakes ,think it would make me sick if i hit 1000X hit @ 15p stakes / pointless for me anyway because i dont play at those stakes, so if you take the wagering into affect of how much is spent it could be in the top ten regarding wagered ammount totals, agaisnt spin ammounts & whats wagered @20p or something.:thumbsup:
     

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