Midaur - Another One Bites The Dust

slot_zombie

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I wonder if the UKGC will take on board the volume of decent casino's that are leaving the UK market or ffolding alltogether due to over regulation before making their next moves?

Of course not. I doubt they even care. They'll put it all down to the tax burden (which to be fair, it partially is) - not their overzealous meddling.
 

shadow123

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Slowly but surely they are destroying the industry while failing to implement the important things
like reversals,hard to believe they still havnt clamped down on them.
I bet things will get a lot worse this year with the 2005 gaming act being revisited,max stakes are very probably
on the cards,I can see them aligning online casinos with the B and M casinos even with the possibility of payout limits.
Shit times are coming thats for sure
 

dunover

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Now you know why UKGC-facing casinos are trying to offer bonuses still but are reducing their quality and at the same time they are using lower-RTP slots where the developer makes them available.
I still think that some forum members don't understand the complexity and wafer thin margins many operators are trying to get by on.
If you haven't got foreign revenues like the bookies to subsidize the UK market with or aren't a medium or bigger-sized operator, the writing is really on the wall.

Look at what's happening:

1. Lower standard of bonuses
2. Reduction of RTP's
3. Amalgamation of platforms (i.e. Trada)
4. Simply leaving the UK market to remove the liabilities it entails.
5. Like Midaur, a UK-facing site, shutting altogether.

So if an operator merges or reduces bonuses or RTP's to stay afloat, yes players don't like it but look at the alternative, as Midaur found out. What would you do?
 

geordiecolin

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Now you know why UKGC-facing casinos are trying to offer bonuses still but are reducing their quality and at the same time they are using lower-RTP slots where the developer makes them available.
I still think that some forum members don't understand the complexity and wafer thin margins many operators are trying to get by on.
If you haven't got foreign revenues like the bookies to subsidize the UK market with or aren't a medium or bigger-sized operator, the writing is really on the wall.

Look at what's happening:

1. Lower standard of bonuses
2. Reduction of RTP's
3. Amalgamation of platforms (i.e. Trada)
4. Simply leaving the UK market to remove the liabilities it entails.
5. Like Midaur, a UK-facing site, shutting altogether.

So if an operator merges or reduces bonuses or RTP's to stay afloat, yes players don't like it but look at the alternative, as Midaur found out. What would you do?
Seems like I will not have to find another Mrs if I ever want to reduce my gambling!
 

Jono777

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I just hope it never reaches the stages where those who fancy a flutter are pretty much FORCED to have to play at one of the larger sites or even worse one of the UK bookies sites.

It will be a case of "Hmm what do I want today, apart from my spins, lag galore or OTT SoW requests" :rolleyes:
 

News Hound

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Has there been an email communication to their player base, if so, would be great if you could copy it into this thread. Thanks!
 

Slottery

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Now you know why UKGC-facing casinos are trying to offer bonuses still but are reducing their quality and at the same time they are using lower-RTP slots where the developer makes them available.
I still think that some forum members don't understand the complexity and wafer thin margins many operators are trying to get by on.
If you haven't got foreign revenues like the bookies to subsidize the UK market with or aren't a medium or bigger-sized operator, the writing is really on the wall.

Look at what's happening:

1. Lower standard of bonuses
2. Reduction of RTP's
3. Amalgamation of platforms (i.e. Trada)
4. Simply leaving the UK market to remove the liabilities it entails.
5. Like Midaur, a UK-facing site, shutting altogether.

So if an operator merges or reduces bonuses or RTP's to stay afloat, yes players don't like it but look at the alternative, as Midaur found out. What would you do?

I read from several threads that casinos are all making fortunes every day with their rigged games, they are just so greedy that nothing is enough :)

Seriously, UK with it's taxes and regulations is very challenging market and like many been guessing here, it seems that only big boys (and girls) stay alive and when many have left or are leaving, remaining ones might have bigger piece from pie.

You still have quite decent operators there to choose, maybe next January it's less than now but for sure somebody remain there to take deposits. Some new ones coming, dunno how many as could imagine hat you review market quite well before entering there and now one of first messages you see is many leaving UK, some lowering RTP:s and other things which might not give very glorious picture how easy it is make profit from there.
 

slot_zombie

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Has there been an email communication to their player base, if so, would be great if you could copy it into this thread. Thanks!



Hi,

Please accept this email as formal notification that Midaur has ceased provision of all gambling operations with immediate effect.

The Midaur team thanks you for your custom during your time with us.

Registered users will be able to access their accounts until 23rd January 2020 and player account balances in excess of £2.50 will be returned to the medium from which they were received, as follows:
balances in excess of £10 will be returned in full
balances below the withdrawal threshold of £10 but above the de minimis of £2.50 will be returned minus any transaction related costs

Due to transaction costs, account balances below £2.50 will be aggregated and donated to an industry related charity.

If you have any questions regarding this notice please contact us on support@midaur.com or live chat.

Kind regards,
The Midaur customer care team



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shadow123

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I just hope it never reaches the stages where those who fancy a flutter are pretty much FORCED to have to play at one of the larger sites or even worse one of the UK bookies sites.

It will be a case of "Hmm what do I want today, apart from my spins, lag galore or OTT SoW requests" :rolleyes:

Been playing off and on at Ladbrokes for 20 years with no problem, The rtps are reasonable and payments processed to visa are as fast as VS.They dont have a massive range of games and give next to f**k all in bonuses but for some reason I get a hell of a lot more playtme and am well up since using them regularly
again for the llast 3 months.Strangely enough I cant do a bloody thing at Corals.
 

geordiecolin

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Been playing off and on at Ladbrokes for 20 years with no problem, The rtps are reasonable and payments processed to visa are as fast as VS.They dont have a massive range of games and give next to f**k all in bonuses but for some reason I get a hell of a lot more playtme and am well up since using them regularly
again for the llast 3 months.Strangely enough I cant do a bloody thing at Corals.
I regularly play at Paddy Power if I have a good return on the Gee Gee's with a bit of spare cash and I very rarely get a cash out :(
 

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Let's dry our eyes a bit shall we, and cast our eyes back to the BBF thread, where even seasoned CM members couldn't work out how the hell Miduar's bonus structure and sub worked.....

https://www.casinomeister.com/forums/threads/midaur-casino-entering-the-flames.86910/
As for being left to the 'mercy' of the big UK bookies sites, I'm currently pretty much single-siting at Sky Vegas*, no nonsense with docs, payouts are always within 60 minutes 24/7/365, and there are loads of games to choose from - I think we'll cope.

As we established in the BBF thread for Miduar, there was literally no reason to play there if you were already registered and verified at other casinos, I mean, how many folks from CM were actually players there?......

* Apart from 3Dice of course, where I'm a regular player.
 

shadow123

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Think I am heading towards single siting, so tired of losing at VS and playing penny battles and expected
to be grateful, plus the ever present threat of SOW,s which I would never send.Cant be bothering with
all the shit.
 

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Let's dry our eyes a bit shall we, and cast our eyes back to the BBF thread, where even seasoned CM members couldn't work out how the hell Miduar's bonus structure and sub worked.....

Thought that inventor of these bonus terms will be next Nobel prize winner... At least should have been safe enough for casino so SUB abuse for sure wasn't reason they close.
 

L&L-Jan

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Opened an account at PP years ago and closed it same day, it was so crap

2 cents from my end and outlook to the future:

Guys - DONT SE your account because you didnt like 1 single and simple aspect of the service being provided to you! SE causes a lot of futere problems that you are not aware of at the time of making the decisions.

The landscape in the future will be with less operators. Hence, if you so easily SE all the time, your landscape of options becomes limited !

Think before your action please. Dont SE without thinking about it twice, soon you have no place play.

Timeout or close - is a different request for the casino. Please submit your request accordingly and ALWAYS answer any followup question that is being asked, and honestly.

Kr. Jan
 

dunover

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Let's dry our eyes a bit shall we, and cast our eyes back to the BBF thread, where even seasoned CM members couldn't work out how the hell Miduar's bonus structure and sub worked.....

https://www.casinomeister.com/forums/threads/midaur-casino-entering-the-flames.86910/
As for being left to the 'mercy' of the big UK bookies sites, I'm currently pretty much single-siting at Sky Vegas*, no nonsense with docs, payouts are always within 60 minutes 24/7/365, and there are loads of games to choose from - I think we'll cope.

As we established in the BBF thread for Miduar, there was literally no reason to play there if you were already registered and verified at other casinos, I mean, how many folks from CM were actually players there?......

* Apart from 3Dice of course, where I'm a regular player.

It's a bit disingenuous to mention grey market casinos like 3Dice who, good as they are, don't have the regulatory and taxation costs of their competitors. It's like comparing a normal slot player like yourself on a budget, with a sponsored streamer. Chalk and cheese.
 

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It's a bit disingenuous to mention grey market casinos like 3Dice who, good as they are, don't have the regulatory and taxation costs of their competitors. It's like comparing a normal slot player like yourself on a budget, with a sponsored streamer. Chalk and cheese.

That's why I put them in as a suffix to my post, as they're not really relevant to what we're talking about here but I do still play there.

It's just that I get a bit tired of seeing the UKGC pile-on in threads like this, like they're the bad guys and the casinos are the victims.

The UKGC are far from perfect, some of their priorities are wrong, and they're moving far too slowly on some things whilst ignoring others, but I believe they're a force for good overall.

I love me some online gambling, (hence half the videos on my channel!), and as a keen, active player I have no idea how the UKGC end up getting framed as the bad guys when an entirely below-average operation like Miduar sinks under the weight of its own failings.
 
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