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Microgaming video poker suggestions

Discussion in 'Online Casinos' started by sal monella, Aug 14, 2006.

    Aug 14, 2006
  1. Couldn't decide whether to start a new thread or bump an old one ...

    I just discovered a couple of things that everyone else has known for months:

    (1) Microgaming now offers a 99.9% VP game (All Aces), but autoplay is disabled.

    (2) Individual casinos have the ability to disable autoplay for all video poker games.

    The autoplay capability really ties their hands in terms of what they can offer, so I'm happy to see that there's more flexibility than I realized. This opens the door to additional 99.9% games, and I'd like to offer my suggestions. The Deuces+Joker Wild game has always seemed flawed to me. The pay table is very bottom-heavy, due mainly to the 15-coin flush payout. There's big jackpot potential -- 10,000 coins for 5 wilds, but the hit frequency is only 1 in 130,000 hands, so the game tends to be very boring.

    The main problem seems to be the payout for 4 deuces. The game pays only 125 for this hand, versus 1000 or 1250 in regular Deuces Wild, even though it's not any easier to hit. I would increase the 4 deuces payout from 125 to 400, which would increase the overall game return from 99.1% to 99.9%. This would produce a game with a lot of small hits, and both intermediate and ultimate jackpot potential.

    I'm a big fan of the 50- and 100-play games, and Deuces+Joker is well-suited to the multi-line format IMO. Even at the penny level, hitting 5 wilds on just one hand pays $100 (or equivalent currency).

    One minor problem with 50- and 100-play is that when looking at the outcome, it may not be possible to distinguish between hearts and diamonds, or spades and clubs. Although it usually doesn't matter, this is an ideal situation for a FOUR-COLOR DECK. This should at least be an option on all video poker games.

    And although I guess I understand their reasons, I hate having to wait for new game variations every month. Every VP game should be available in 1-, 4-, 10-, 50- or 100-play. I don't even understand why each combination requires a separate download.
     
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  2. Aug 14, 2006
  3. Vesuvio

    Vesuvio Dormant account

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    Just came across this game as well - I was wondering why it was banned in the Casino Rewards terms and conditions - now I know! :rolleyes:
     
  4. Aug 14, 2006
  5. vinylweatherman

    vinylweatherman You type well loads CAG MM

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    Silly really


    Without Autoplay, it really does not make sense banning it as I doubt many players will extract the full 99.9% out of it. WITH Autoplay, it would be a dangerous game for the casino to allow for bonuses. The variance is large enough to make it far from certain that an individual player will easily extract a bonus from it.
    As for Autoplay being disabled, I think it more a case of not being included in the download parameters. So long as the default Viper client can handle Autoplay for a game type, I expect there is no underlying reason why it would be nothing more that flicking the proverbial switch to turn it on for individual games. The danger for casinos is that Autoplay is run on the client PC, not on the casinos server!
    The big problem with MG VP is that when Autoplay is not included the pat wins are not even held!
     
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  6. Aug 15, 2006
  7. KravdraaYvoorg

    KravdraaYvoorg Dormant account

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    Where/How did you come up with the 99.9% figure? I entered the paytable in Winpoker and I ran a 5-million hand simulation and I actually ended up with a 100.18% payout. :eek2: That would be a first, a +EV VP machine on the web.
     
  8. Aug 15, 2006
  9. Zoozie

    Zoozie Ueber Meister CAG PABnonaccred

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    'All Aces' has 99.97% payout if I remember correct.

    Zoozie
     
  10. Aug 16, 2006
  11. I used the Winpoker Analyze-Game option to calculate the 99.9% return for All Aces. I did double-check, although it's possible I screwed up my entry of the pay table. (My main computer's in pieces at the moment, so I can't try it now.)

    I believe I came up with something like 99.912%. I thought it was interesting that they bumped the straight flush payout from 250 to 300, which is something probably not too many people would care about. Seems like they wanted at least 99.9%, but not over 100.0%. Any Micro with a 0.1% loyalty club for VP can now advertise >100% return.
     
  12. Aug 16, 2006
  13. Zoozie

    Zoozie Ueber Meister CAG PABnonaccred

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  14. Aug 16, 2006
  15. Simmo!

    Simmo! Moderator Staff Member

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    A "second" actually ;)
     
  16. Aug 18, 2006
  17. KravdraaYvoorg

    KravdraaYvoorg Dormant account

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    Montreal

    Just found out that 5dimes has several 100%+ machines, is that what you're alluding to or do you know others?
     
  18. Aug 18, 2006
  19. tennis_balls

    tennis_balls Dormant account

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    5dimes has two seperate casinos.......one has much better odds and access to that one is granted by management
     
  20. Aug 19, 2006
  21. paul1

    paul1 Dormant account

    I'll guess that Simmo is talking about the old "Double Bonus" at Crypto, before the change to 9/7.

    But it's not really even a second. I've seen Full Pay Deuces in a few places before, one very recently.
     
  22. Aug 19, 2006
  23. paul1

    paul1 Dormant account

    In fact, come to think of it, I've seen full pay All American on a RTG casino before. It didn't last long.
     
  24. Aug 19, 2006
  25. Yes, the RTG software provides the ability to offer full pay, but with so many casinos it can be a "needle in a haystack" situation to find the good ones.

    The last outbreak I knew of was about two years ago, when full-pay games appeared briefly at Grand Aces and Cool Cat. And Geisha Lounge may have done it as a weekend promo.

    The best RTG game I've seen is 15/10 Loose Deuces, at just below 101%. Fans of Double Double Bonus should look for the 9/6/5 full pay version of Double Double Jackpot, returning over 100.3%.

    And I guess Global Player was long known for offering full pay, at least during their daily happy hours.
     

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