Microgaming Softare 100% CPU Utilization??

[ftg]

You should be thanking them for exposing the weaknesses of your computers a lot more than you should be blaming them for running at full throttle.

OK. I agree that my old computer had some weakness (cooling system, whatever) and the computer still worked fine for other applications except MG's.

But the point is if MG's casino applications really need that kind of cpu ultilization/activity to achieve the task the casino is supposed to perform and my computer fails becasue of this, it will be fine and perfectly fine. But it's NOT. It does something unnecessary which cause many computers to breakdown. This is the reason why MG should be blamed.

If it were not MG, my computer won't breakdown, which cost me several hundreds to buy a new one.

"Thank" MG for exposing my computer's weakness.

 

[Vesuvio]

Exactly, you said it yourself. You and a number of others have faulty computers.

There are probably hundreds of people in here alone who run MGS software - and only a few have reported them.

Just going through this thread the following have reported the problem: Chalupa, winbig72, BradyCU, Caruso, Tdoggy, KasinoKing, Simmo, tunisianswife, Oebro, nafanny29, Dirk Diggler, mitch, Pinababy69, Macgyver, Thatchatch, tim5ny, Grandmaster, ftg. Seems a fairly significant sample of regulars here to me - from other forums I know many more are having the same problems. I don't accept you classing all these as "faulty computers" - they're just computers that aren't designed for being tested to destruction for hours on end. For all the normal purposes they're being used for they run just fine - and if it wasn't for this bug they'd run the casinos just fine as well.

You'll personally have a slightly reduced lifespan (me too, for that matter) if you eat too much chocolate. This is NOT what we are talking about - we are talking about something a LOT more serious.

Yes, it is what we're talking about, it's just a matter of degree. Some computers will have their lifespan reduced more than others.

You just want to make a point - make it - but please don't tell us that MGS is at fault for your computer's problems. It's not. You should be thanking them for exposing the weaknesses of your computers a lot more than you should be blaming them for running at full throttle.

I just want them to fix their software before I'm forced to buy a new PC. The "thanking" MG comment's been replied to more eloquently by others - I like Chalupa's earlier post when you first mentioned it: https://www.casinomeister.com/forums/threads/microgaming-softare-100-cpu-utilization.8250/

Regarding nuts - if you're nut-allergic, and you choose to keep on eating nuts or products that you KNOW have nuts in them, who's to blame?

I've been running MG casinos as little as possible, as have others on this thread. Doesn't seem ideal for us or MG, but nevermind. Oh, and the point is not everyone KNOWS about the nuts (or their allergy!), that's why MG should have warned them

 

[Petunia]

** Well, I have now have TWO MGS casinos on my machine, AND the RB multiplayer.

Run them DAILY and the machine that has them on is only a Pentium 4.

No problems what-so-ever - after revisiting this thread, I thought to let it run overnight on autoplay for a few days ... still no problems. I even went as far as trying to run two casinos at the same time but got booted soon enough! hehehe

Unlike my "Gaming Machine", this machine is really just a basic pentium with the minimum requirements. Any previous association with a GFED casino maybe? I have no clue what could be causing this, but then again, I am no tech either.

So maybe I'm just lucky. BTW, I AM allergic to nuts... **

 

[KasinoKing]

Exactly, you said it yourself. You and a number of others have faulty computers.

There are probably hundreds of people in here alone who run MGS software - and only a few have reported them.

I doubt that this software running my CPU at 100% will cause my PC to fail, the same way I doubt that if I smoked cigarettes I would get cancer. I probably would not - but why take the risk?

But lets forget that. Damage to PC's is not the big issue here (as far as I'm concerned), what really pisses me off is this crap MG software screws up the running of all other programmes on my computer.
What makes this all the more infuriating, is that we are ALL agreed (ever Spear) that there is absolutely no logical reason why MG actually NEEDS to use 100% CPU. No other casino (or other software I have seen) does, so why do they do it?

Damage or no damage - MG need to fix this bug - NOW!

 

[Petunia]

**KK - What I would like to know is this: Do you think that MGS does this on purpose? Do you think they KNOW the cause of this problem? Have they been made aware OFFICIALLY of this problem - With symptomes and related issues?Can anyone be sure it is an MGS thing? Do you think it is as simple as 'fixing it NOW'?

We need to be realistic. There are clashing reports on this, where some are saying mgs is at fault, and others are saying that they have no problems at all. In the event that the pple who has the same problems could get together, and come up with a scenario case-study and documentation, maybe it would be a way to HELP mgs to resolve this problem sooner (if it is them) or it could help in establishing the similarities of the problem.
ie: Do you all have the same hardware?
What software do you have in common?
Do you run the SAME casinos (might be a casino thing not a MGS thing)
What systems do you have?
How soon after the download did this start?
What were your experience BEFORE the whole event (un-biased would be good)
How old are your computers?
Do you perhaps have another casino installed (or HAD)
What exactly happens?
When does it happen?
How is it getting worst?

I mean, these are just a few things I could ask at the top of my head. No imagine you are all screaming "MGS FIX THIS NOW" but MGS has no clue what you are referring to. This problem could be anywhere from a small " ' " put in the wrong place to an actual full scale code-nightmare.

Specifics would be good. It will help. AND if anyone of you had done that before, maybe you should actually think about being a programmer, writing 50 lines of code to make ONE thing tick over... it MIGHT JUST TAKE a long time to try and find the exact problem! This whilst trying to establish what is different for you to me, as I don't have this problem and you do?! **

 

[spearmaster]

I've been running MG casinos as little as possible, as have others on this thread. Doesn't seem ideal for us or MG, but nevermind. Oh, and the point is not everyone KNOWS about the nuts (or their allergy!), that's why MG should have warned them

So why don't peanuts have this warning?

You can point to all the circumstantial evidence you like - but the fact remains that I am 100% correct and I can't help it if there are many faulty computers out there.

I have already told you to go run something else like SETI or Winbench in order to prove that the cooling system is at fault and not the software - but you guys persist in pointing fingers at the wrong thing.

So I will just leave it at that and you can contentedly run (or not) whatever software you like - but ultimately you will get down to buying a new machine sooner rather than later because you didn't heed the warning - it won't be long before Windows simply won't boot because your CPU really IS damaged. And I can assure you that buying a new CPU is much more expensive than having the cooling system fixed. Perhaps hard drives as well.

Your choice.

 

[KasinoKing]

**KK - What I would like to know is this: Do you think that MGS does this on purpose?
Do you think they KNOW the cause of this problem?
Have they been made aware OFFICIALLY of this problem - With symptomes and related issues?
Can anyone be sure it is an MGS thing?
Do you think it is as simple as 'fixing it NOW'?

Very quickly, your answers:-
Possibly, but probably not.
Probably, yes.
I believe so, yes.
Yes, definitely.
Probably not, but this problem has been known about for at the very least 3-months. A company with MG's resource should be able to fix ANYTHING well within that time!

Question for you: Are you using Windows? If so, start up any MG casino or poker room, open your task manager and tell me if your CPU is running at 100%?
Exit all MG programmes & look again...
Start up all the other casinos you have on your machine that are not MG and check again...

 

[Vesuvio]

So why don't peanuts have this warning?

I'm guessing they probably do in the UK (haven't got a pack to hand), though it's fairly obvious nuts are going to contain nuts. It's not obvious an MG casino is going to work your PC to the limits even when you're not playing a game.

Dubious analogies aside, can't we just agree on the following:

1) Due to misguided programming MG casinos use close to 100% of the CPU when they don't need to.

2) Some computers, particularly laptops or poorly built ones, will overheat if run for long periods of time at 100% CPU use.

3) If MG fixed the bug in their software, and you didn't run software legitimately putting high strain on the CPU (like Winbench, as you say), they wouldn't overheat.

I don't mind your saying MG aren't to blame as clearly it's a combination of factors, but the solution isn't for us all to throw away computers adequate to the tasks we use them for - MG just need to fix their software. If they don't they should warn about the risks to a large number of their customers. I've nothing against them including "due to poor PC cooling systems" in the warning.

 

[spearmaster]

I don't mind your saying MG aren't to blame as clearly it's a combination of factors, but the solution isn't for us all to throw away computers adequate to the tasks we use them for - MG just need to fix their software. If they don't they should warn about the risks to a large number of their customers. I've nothing against them including "due to poor PC cooling systems" in the warning.

No one said to throw away the computer. I said to get it fixed! Do you drive cars with a flat tire just because they still move forward?

 

[Dirk Diggler]

Well I DID send my laptop off to get it sorted when it kept overheating because of MG and they couldn't find anything wrong with it.

They replaced the fan but all that did was extend the time taken before it overheated.

Anyway I don't know why anyone is really bothered to argue about this - the situation is MG software is doing something there's no need to do and they're taking far too long to get it sorted IMO.

 

[Vesuvio]

No one said to throw away the computer. I said to get it fixed! Do you drive cars with a flat tire just because they still move forward?

There's no flat tire, though My laptop works perfectly and all other software I use runs at a temperature that poses no risk. I'm pretty sure a brand-new model would perform in the same way - i.e. 20-30 degrees hotter than necessary running MG software because of the bug (my model's nearly brand-new anyway after the fan and hard drive had to be replaced!).

 

[Simmo!]

No one said to throw away the computer. I said to get it fixed!

No offense Spear, but I'd rather go play at Cryptologic casinos than re-wire this lot

Still, sounds like a "fix" is on the way

 

[spearmaster]

There's no flat tire, though My laptop works perfectly and all other software I use runs at a temperature that poses no risk. I'm pretty sure a brand-new model would perform in the same way - i.e. 20-30 degrees hotter than necessary running MG software because of the bug (my model's nearly brand-new anyway after the fan and hard drive had to be replaced!).

Compare that to running your car at 5 miles/km per hour because it doesn't need to go any faster... not that MGS software needs any more speed but the argument is fallacious. Your laptop does not work perfectly and if you don't believe it, why not search for your model on the Net such as "(model number) heat problems" and see what comes up? Or if you like, I'll be happy to research it for you.

Let me tell you that all four of my computers - old desktop and notebook, and new desktop and notebook, all run MGS software perfectly fine, with only 4-5 degree increase in temperature. And as soon as I get to testing my new office computers, I will report back similar results, I'm sure.

You may believe what you like. Just please don't spread any falsehoods, because the software is not at fault and I repeat again for those espousing testing, try SETI and/or WinBench and you will discover the exact same results.

 

[Vesuvio]

Compare that to running your car at 5 miles/km per hour because it doesn't need to go any faster...

I'd compare it to running a basic car I might cruise down a motorway at 80mph in. If I wanted to cruise at 120mph I'd buy something better... and move to Germany The basic car might hit 120mph on a slope with a following wind, but I wouldn't expect it to last for long at that speed.

Let me tell you that all four of my computers - old desktop and notebook, and new desktop and notebook, all run MGS software perfectly fine, with only 4-5 degree increase in temperature.

I'm delighted for you Not all computers fare so well - or do you think we're all making it up!?

You may believe what you like. Just please don't spread any falsehoods, because the software is not at fault and I repeat again for those espousing testing, try SETI and/or WinBench and you will discover the exact same results.

Where on earth's the falsehood I said a significant number of computers overheat when run consistently at 100% CPU usage, regardless of which software causes it (yes, if you actually read my posts you'll see I've acknowledged your WinBench point about 5 times!). If MG fixed the bug that means their software runs unnecessarily at 100% it wouldn't lead to these overheating problems - or if you've got some paranoid fear of causality - "when using their software these same computers wouldn't overheat". Is that wording ok?

Anyway, this is an utterly pointless discussion - it's all been gone over a few hundred times already. Let's just hope MG finally fix things and we can all forget about it.

 

[caruso]

At the end of the day, serious overheating or mild, Microgaming software is performing sub-optimally in terms of their customers' computers' longevity - or the longevity of the CPU or whatever. This is their own self-created problem and they should bloody well sort it out. That they haven't speaks volumes.

 

[Vesuvio]

I think they've finally fixed it At least River Belle just updated itself and now runs at as low as 1% of the CPU while not playing any games. Hopefully it's a universal fix across all sites

Ok, definitely not universal yet, & I think there are a few different versions of the MG software around (you can see differences when you load games), but at least they seem to know how to fix it now.

 

[KasinoKing]

Hooo-bloody-ray!!!

If you're right - about blinking time!

(I'll try it tonight on various MG's & see)

 

[spearmaster]

Considering the software is running more smoothly on my computer the past couple of days, I guess they've fixed/tested this at a few places, and shortly all of them will be updated if no problems are discovered.

And yes, I agree - about time.

 

[nafanny29]

Just 4 tabled a Prima room without problems (CPU 11% average). It seems they have finally fixed the problem Still shouldnt have been a problem in the first place IMHO