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microgaming slots. statistics of rtp and real cashout

Discussion in 'Slots Discussion' started by bogapasa, Aug 5, 2017.

    Aug 5, 2017
  1. bogapasa

    bogapasa Banned user - making anti semitic comments

    Location:
    croatia split
    Hi everybody im new member and im from Croatia, and im playin online microgaming slots on croatian lottery' for two years, and its really bad experince. I play mainly small bets about 0,15.euro,still im losing about 1600 euros overall. Total wagering is 37006 eu and payed 35446 eu, this all ican see in my statistic but real deposit of my cash is around 10 time less but games make it 10 time more. Right know my currently rtp is 95,64, and at it best its 96,3. What i have experienced and im sure, its just bad algorhythm, that is paying only when you over wagering through playing ,on my small bets of 0,15 eu its got to be about 10000 eu of wagering,and when rtp is about 95,0- 95,3 it begun getting up, but its too late,and money you have lost is forever gone,you only can get small satisfaction,when rtp jump to 96,0-96,3and have 2-3 withdrawal of 100 eu.From what i see from statistics. microgaming slots is taken 40% of my real money. I am wondering is yours experiece from playing microgaming slots similar, are yours
    statistics similar to mine' because i had enough'im just-chasing my loses, there is no sense or joy to play anymore but i will,it has to p
    ay to rtp above 96%, but when im scared how much money im must deposit,that its gona be too late.Im just thinking why it had to take 40% of your money,why never it can pay real big when taken all those money, at least once,then im stoping playing anymore,no they want,even after more then300000 spins. First year i was playing avalon slot never had 5 chests in bonus, now im playing IR and thunderstruck2 because off better rtps,but thers no use, never had 3 wild or big win. Sorry for my bad english, but maybe you know what im ment from this post
     
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  2. Aug 5, 2017
  3. danchop

    danchop Full Member

    Location:
    new zealand
    Croatian....

    "why never it can pay real big when taken all those money, at least once,then im stoping playing anymore,no they want,even after 280000 spins"

    And thousands of miles away in a land called New Zealand(its close to Australia)...

    "Come on you son of a bitch site,just one big win and im out of here for good,fuck this!"

    See, we all think the same,the games treat us the same,we both wont quit if we win big.There is no answer to help your pain,you pay big money to feel like shit,welcome to online gambling,the worst form of gambling availible..
     
  4. Aug 5, 2017
  5. trancemonkey

    trancemonkey Meister Member

    Occupation:
    Games Producer
    Location:
    United Kingdom
    RTP can take a LOT of games to reach. Do NOT base your decision to play on your current or past RTP. This is not how games work...a game could be below RTP for an enormous amount of games. Don't forget that the way statistics work is that a game will be more likely to be under RTP the more you play it... Only in short sessions will be a game be over RTP.

    Base your play on whether you can afford to play and enjoy the game. If you base it on anything else you are certain to lose...
     
  6. Aug 5, 2017
  7. bogapasa

    bogapasa Banned user - making anti semitic comments

    Location:
    croatia split
    Yeah you right,shame is on me,they fool me twice, but thats not enough for me. After some withdrawal and rtp is good, i stopped playing for three or four months, then im getting bored and think those slots, they got to pay me more, of course not here comes disaster,this is just ataxpay for fools,, if i play wisely those money on sport betting i could be in profit, with this no way
     
  8. Aug 5, 2017
  9. bogapasa

    bogapasa Banned user - making anti semitic comments

    Location:
    croatia split
    Isnt it strange, even if i can afford to play,how can i enjoy the game if im stil losing?,thats the fact.. This should be fun i know they must have advantages on us, but not 40%,of our money for what? Those stupid 243 slots,they acting all same and their other games are not so fun, if they take less then 30%,then it would somewhat fair but not enough, for me its got to be law that garantued to online slot players,over the long time period chance of 80% of their money, (like in sport betting)not the games rtps but real cashout, so that no one go bankrot for that stupid childish spinings
     
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  10. Aug 5, 2017
  11. trancemonkey

    trancemonkey Meister Member

    Occupation:
    Games Producer
    Location:
    United Kingdom
    You can't legislate for cashouts... It would be totally impossible. It is up to a player when they cashout.. one person might want to cash out when they have doubled their starting balance, another might want 20x. How people play should be up to them.

    And I'm not sure where you are getting the "40% of your money" from... By your own stats your RTP is in the 90s.
     
  12. Aug 5, 2017
  13. bogapasa

    bogapasa Banned user - making anti semitic comments

    Location:
    croatia split
    40% of my money im getting when i sum all my bank deposits and bank withdrawals thats procentage i get , i withdraw 60% of money,when i look before 3 days,after that i deposit about 100 euro,no wins now is even more like 41% , but rtp is now 95,63. . im doubting that croatian lottery even worsen bad microgaming games, because of greed, maybe in uk is better,i dont know .
     
  14. Aug 5, 2017
  15. trancemonkey

    trancemonkey Meister Member

    Occupation:
    Games Producer
    Location:
    United Kingdom
    But your withdrawals are totally your choice... You choose when you withdraw and when not to. That is not the choice of the casino. If the game never gave you a win that you thought was worth withdrawing that's just either bad luck or a crap game...

    If you won the Croatian lottery you wouldn't play most of it back through the lottery to try and win more, you would get paid straight away. But on slots you win some and then you play some more to try and win more...

    If you don't like the way the games play or the casinos operate, save your money and dont play :)
     
  16. Aug 5, 2017
  17. Jono777

    Jono777 Meister Member CAG mm4 mm1

    Occupation:
    Self- Employeed
    Location:
    Wolverhampton
    Winning and successful cash outs are 99% player strategy and self control and nothing to do with RTP, trust me on this one ;)
     
  18. Aug 11, 2017
  19. gambyx7

    gambyx7 Senior Member

    Occupation:
    historian
    Location:
    Europe
    Last few weeks and especially last days is hard describe: utter filth. Kill switch is pressed. I had never experienced so many cold streaks, waiting 500-600 spins for feature (which then pay almost nothing), miserable base game and that happends to very various slots: from Retro Reels to Pretty Kitty, form Lost Vegas to blood sucking Jurassic Park...:eek::eek::mad::mad::mad::confused::confused::confused::confused:

    I also can't remember when I managed to make some profit to my starting balance, always is bailing uot, heavy struggling not to sink...and I am sinking quite a lot lately...
     
  20. Aug 11, 2017
  21. goatwack

    goatwack Calendar Time for Buddy CAG

    Occupation:
    Stuntman
    Location:
    Londonia
    I concur, can't recall my last good Microgaining session, it's been pure filth from the go. This is across the board :mad:

    Those lovable 9-liners play like demented gibbons at the moment, can't even rely on them. It takes about 80% of my balance to even get a bonus nowadays.

    They're pretty much on my Not To Play List after what I've endured recently, bit like when I boycotted them a few years ago. Looks like normal service is resumed!
     
  22. Aug 11, 2017
  23. bogapasa

    bogapasa Banned user - making anti semitic comments

    Location:
    croatia split
    today i deposit about 13 euro, can you belive it i wagered that through play, like 50 time more about 650 euro, bet was mainly 0,13 euro, up and down 10-40 euro, playin ten hours, in last bonus in avalon got bonus 5 crowns+3 i was pissed off, before, always be+6 or+7, balance for four time again on 40 euro, i was pissed off . Raise bet on 0,5 euro, and lose quikly balance. And this is strange even if i loose today 13 euro, my overal rtp has risen from 95,2-95,3 .I deposit in 25 days about 650 euro, and best that can microgaming offer me is 40 euro, not gona take it. need minimum of 100 euro to witdraw. i was playin IR,avalon, pretty kitty and lot of others
     
  24. Aug 11, 2017
  25. gambyx7

    gambyx7 Senior Member

    Occupation:
    historian
    Location:
    Europe
    I feel hacked!!! Never had something like this....there is no such randomness which constantly, from session to session, gives fs after 500 spins!!! NO WAY!!!
     
  26. Aug 12, 2017
  27. trancemonkey

    trancemonkey Meister Member

    Occupation:
    Games Producer
    Location:
    United Kingdom
    So let me get this right... You deposited 13 euros, got that up to 40 euros (3x starting balance) played for ten hours and you are STILL complaining? You want to turn 13 euros in to 100 at minimum bet otherwise it's all shit?

    You have a very unrealistic view of gambling.. if I deposited 100 and turned it in to 400 I would be cashing out straight away.

    Of course you as re entitled to gamble however you want but to complain about this session is ridiculous .... You had a better session that most people ever get.

    Also your RTP is nothing to do with your deposits...
     
  28. Aug 13, 2017
  29. gambyx7

    gambyx7 Senior Member

    Occupation:
    historian
    Location:
    Europe
    Disagree completely!

    Trancemonkey, do you play MG lately?

    Making 3x starting balance I wouldn't call some achievement:rolleyes:

    You should see what Basketball Star did yesterday? In 1500 no wins above 25x..and that slot is not GOT, DOA is some other super HV...

    But it is all about that random and cold streaks is totally OK, as you say. Of course, for providers yes, if there is too many hot strekas, that would be anomaly...
     
  30. Aug 13, 2017
  31. trancemonkey

    trancemonkey Meister Member

    Occupation:
    Games Producer
    Location:
    United Kingdom
    I'm talking gambling in general, not just MG. I appreciate when you are a long way down expectations and wants change but in general, turning your deposit in to 3x is good.

    When I go to Vegas I'm happy if I leave a casino with exactly what I started with ;)
     
  32. Aug 13, 2017
  33. gambyx7

    gambyx7 Senior Member

    Occupation:
    historian
    Location:
    Europe
    Turning 100 to 300 or 400 is good.
    Turning 13 to 40 can't be compared, despite the stake...60 or 70 would be my limit...

    For Vegas I agree, but I hear now and then that land base casinos ar more gentle than on-line....I guess that's rumour...
     
  34. Aug 13, 2017
  35. trancemonkey

    trancemonkey Meister Member

    Occupation:
    Games Producer
    Location:
    United Kingdom
    They tend to be less volatile but that's because they run at much lower RTP
     

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