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Microgaming Releases Slot RTP

Discussion in 'Slots Discussion' started by petro, Oct 16, 2016.

    Oct 16, 2016
  1. petro

    petro Dormant account, per user request PABnoaccred2 PABaccred

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    I just heard that Microgaming have released the RTP for it's slots but only to people in the UK.
    I done a search of the forum but only found old information from 2012 relating to Microgaming's slots RTP.

    I had a quick look at some of the help files for the slots and found this:
    [​IMG]

    I'm guessing that's what it looks like for players in the UK?

    I would consider it a personal favour if someone could post the complete list of Microgaming's slots RTP on the forum.
    OR, if someone could direct me to a webpage with information I seek.

    EDIT: Nevermind, I found this: You must register/login in order to see the link.
     
    Last edited: Oct 16, 2016
  2. Oct 16, 2016
  3. Jono777

    Jono777 Meister Member CAG mm4 mm1

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    UK Players only eh?

    Probably and reluctantly had to do this to meet UKGC requirements. :rolleyes:
     
  4. Oct 16, 2016
  5. petro

    petro Dormant account, per user request PABnoaccred2 PABaccred

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    I had a quick look and made some notes.

    Agent Jane Blonde 96.10%
    Video Slots list this game as 97%
    I have known for a long time that the information Video Slots release is inaccurate.

    Hot Ink & Retro Reels: Extreme Heat 97.50%
    This RTP is only achievable when using the re-spin feature.

    Dragon Dance 98.00%
    I would assume being a re-spin game that the 98% RTP is only possible using the re-spin feature.

    The 99.91% RTP for Classic Blackjack is only obtainable using a composition dependent
    strategy.

    Regular slots with the highest return:
    Frozen Diamonds 97.00%
    Pretty Kitty 97%

    Game of Thrones - 15 Lines 96.37%
    Game of Thrones - 243 Ways 94.86%
    (Time to switch to the 15 line version!)

    I notice that the RTP for multiplayer games such as; Isis, Avalon, and Playboy are missing. Which means it's not a complete list.
     
  6. Oct 16, 2016
  7. Blathaon

    Blathaon Meister Member

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    Interesting stuff, the RTP of the GOT 243 way version is shockingly bad if the 32Red info is correct. Also what is the point of Videoslots RTP page if it's not accurate?

    Microgaming Releases Slot RTP: GOT RTP.png,Oct 16, 2016

    Do MG offer different RTP settings? could this be why MG haven't had the RTP info easily available like NetEnt and others have?
    It would be interesting to see the 32Red list compared with other casinos.
     
  8. Oct 16, 2016
  9. slotmaster

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    uhhh could be wrong but the videoslots.com page is what that slot paid on videoslots.com over a period of time, Not what the RTP is set at by the provider.
     
  10. Oct 16, 2016
  11. nikantw

    nikantw Ueber Meister MM PABaccred

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    In the "Account" section of all MG viper you can find a general monthly RTP report like this:

    Microgaming Releases Slot RTP: rtp.jpg,Oct 16, 2016

    I don't know if there is another report for each game.
     
  12. Oct 16, 2016
  13. petro

    petro Dormant account, per user request PABnoaccred2 PABaccred

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    I'm certain that it's just because Video Slots are wrong. That list they made was inaccurate from day 1.
    I seem to recall seeing multiple table games that were listed incorrectly/inaccurately.
    Also, there were a lot of discrepancies between Video Slot's information and the other information out there.


    On Video Slots:
    You can view the Theoretical RTP (What the RTP is set at by the provider) But, it's inaccurate.
    And you can view what Video Slots call "actual" (What that slot paid on videoslots.com over a period of time.)
     
  14. Oct 16, 2016
  15. Simmo!

    Simmo! Moderator Staff Member

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    Just as a side-note, it is quite common for games with a higher volatility/variance to have a higher RTP too. I see it as a trade-off, so if it was a game I played a lot, I'd probably go for the 15 line version but otherwise the 243-way version may prove to be a more profitable solution in the short term. To be fair, its all pretty negligible at these RTPs anyway but worth pointing out IMO.
     
  16. Oct 16, 2016
  17. Blathaon

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    My bad i selected the wrong one :oops:, but still don't see the point of Videoslots list if it can't be trusted. Anyway it's good that MG is finally releasing RTP info.

    Microgaming Releases Slot RTP: GOT.png,Oct 16, 2016
     
  18. Oct 16, 2016
  19. Blathaon

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    Agreed, but you see that's the weird thing here. The 15 line version have a base game max win of 1000x and 5000x in the 5xMultiplier feature, whereas the 243 way slot have a base game max win of 4050x and 20250x in the 5xMultiplier feature. So the 243 way is the game with the highest variance and max win, so it's disappointing to see it with a TRTP of 94.86%. Pure greed on MG's part then i guess...
     
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  21. petro

    petro Dormant account, per user request PABnoaccred2 PABaccred

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    I was going to make those two points myself; higher volatility = casino can afford to give higher RTP as the player will make more spins to see the expected RTP.
    And we we are really only talking about a percentage point or two. No point in hair-pulling.

    But, I didn't think it was worth bringing up. :D


    Hmmm, I'm not too sure if you can know a game's volatility/variance from that information.
     
  22. Oct 17, 2016
  23. 09237653

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    There's a fair few missing, Battlestar Galactica, Mega Moolah Summertime and Mega Moolah 5 Reel Drive were a few I noticed.

    Also how can Happy holidays (96.50%) and Terminator 2 ( 96.62%) be different when they're clones?
     
  24. Oct 17, 2016
  25. mcgameboy

    mcgameboy Screenieholic & Essayist mm2

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    Dark Knight was c. 88% RTP IIRC, so I would imagine that the Mega Moolah games are around that number too.

    PS Just clicked on the link that the OP provided.

    Battlestar Galactica 96.60%
    Mega Moolah 88.12&
    MM Isis 88.00%

    So MM Summertime and MM 5RD probably are close to 88%
     
  26. Oct 17, 2016
  27. Deeplay

    Deeplay New World Order CAG mm1 webmeister

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    Exactly why MG were so slow in releasing this information - and only for UK players! I only play a very limited number of MG slots these days and rare if ever bother with any new releases as most are garbage anyway.
    MG has become one of the worst provider of games going from the best.
     
  28. Oct 17, 2016
  29. vinylweatherman

    vinylweatherman You type well loads CAG MM

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    Not for long though;)

    The internet will ensure others get to find the information over time:)
     
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  31. dunover

    dunover Unofficial T&C's Editor Staff Member CAG PABnononaccred PABnonaccred PABinit mm3 webmeister

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    Videoslots publish the RTP the game has on their system at that point, not the TRTP from the manufacture. They do say that, calling it 'payout' not RTP. You can tell this when they get a new game which hasn't had enough turnover to 'settle' and you'll see figures like 43% or 156% if it hasn't paid big at that point, or has paid big to skew the figure over a small amount of play.

    The big clue people are the red and green arrows........it cannot go up and down if it's the developer RTP can it???
     
  32. Oct 17, 2016
  33. brianmon

    brianmon Meister Member webby mm4

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    Videoslots publish the Actual (the rtp for their casino) AND the Theoretical (manufactures TRTP). the arrows just indicate how the game has been performing since the time listed underneath the arrow. The theoretical figure never changes (as you would expect).

    Although I seem to remember someone from Videoslots saying a while ago, that MGS wouldn't give them exact figures at the time, and they could only publish what they were given

    Microgaming Releases Slot RTP: bandicam 2016-10-17 21-18-16-904.jpg,Oct 17, 2016


    Microgaming Releases Slot RTP: bandicam 2016-10-17 21-18-27-651.jpg,Oct 17, 2016
     

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