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Microgaming based on deception?

Discussion in 'Online Casinos' started by Mirvel, Dec 3, 2010.

    Dec 3, 2010
  1. Mirvel

    Mirvel Banned User

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    Hi all,
    I have a few question's for the microgaming players here
    and i would appreciate it if you would tell me if any of this also happens to you

    1)Do you get disconnected from a casino for no reason.....(you stil have internet all other programs work fine and you can reconnect with the casino in seconds without a problem)

    2)Reels that "always" stop in a certain order all of a sudden change the order they stop.(Example: reel 3 wil stop before reel 1 or 2 )

    3) The reels wont stop spinning at all.

    4) all of a sudden scatters disapear or apear on a reel....

    And the most important question....
    Does it in 99.5% of all cases happen when you WIN?
    and after it happens u dont get a thing again.

    acording to microgaming i am the only one...(talked to 7-8 other players they told me they have the same problems) so i would feel much better if players here tell their experience....ops, microgaming employee w/e plz DO NOT response since i dont believe a word ur gonna say.
     
  2. Dec 3, 2010
  3. steveh35

    steveh35 Senior Member

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    1,2 and 3 yes, 4 no, don't win enough to judge whether it's during a win.

    I got thrown out during a tourney when I was nearing top 10 on leaderboard, has 2 minutes left couldn't get back into game until 2 minutes had finished.
     
  4. Dec 3, 2010
  5. Rogerb

    Rogerb Dormant account PABnonaccred

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    Norway
    I have played regularly on Microgaming for 8 years and i consider that i know the program very well.

    1 . Yes. This always happens at certain casinos.(always the same ones).

    2 . Well, the new games (i think the games that was introduces from about 2 years ago, dont always stop in 1,2,3,4,5, but sometimes reel 4 stops before reel 2..and so on).

    3 . This happens allot on every Microgaming casino (this started about 6-9 mouth ago i think). You have to go all the way out of the casino,then open and connect again.

    4. Well,yes thei do,but no they dont. This is an software issue with the graphic card on your computer. I say this,because i have played a long time with 7 different computers.

    5. No, but i know what you mean. This depends on what game you are playing. Try to play Cops and robbers 0,10 bet,for about 30,min,and NEVER take and winnings on the bonus game, and you will get the FULL knowledge on how Microgaming games relay works.(this is the xtream xample but you will discover that you get 95-98% of your money back in the end.

    Hope this answers some of the questions. ;)
     
  6. Dec 4, 2010
  7. felicie

    felicie Ueber Meister PABnononaccred

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    There is another thread below this one 'MG Software Issues' that might answer some or all of your questions. :)
     
  8. Dec 4, 2010
  9. KasinoKing

    KasinoKing WebMeister & Slotaholic.. CAG MM PABnonaccred webmeister

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    1) Yes.

    2) Yes. (This MUST be in the design of the slot - why did they do that? :confused:)

    3) Yes. (Caused by intermittent / lost internet connection to the casino)

    4) Yes. But they have not been removed from the reel - it's just luck and caused by the way the graphics are displayed. MG reel strips vary from 30 to 90+ symbols per reel; on an average spin probably only about 12 to 15 symbols pass the viewing "window" - and some can double up due to the "cut in" method.

    5) No. Can't say I've even noticed that.

    KK
     
  10. Dec 4, 2010
  11. vinylweatherman

    vinylweatherman You type well loads CAG MM

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    It's not quite that simple. Granted, this class of game is by no means random, but a "compensated" slot. It is, after all, a "UK Pub Slot", or Fruit Machine (AWP). Although you will eventually get the top feature this way, you are NOT guaranteed to get the same RTP every cycle. Sometimes you will end up with well over 100%, other times under 50%. The RTP is balanced over a much longer cycle.

    I once played Cops & Robbers at £5 at All Slots. The first time I got the trail, it went all the way and gave around £2500. I had only "fed" it a couple of hundered, so this was NOT simply a return of 95% of the money put in, but a real WIN.

    Although not TOO constrained as to be completely predictable, these games are most certainly NOT random, since past results are largely what governs future payouts.

    Once you get the top feature, the game will "go dead", and often the copper will get you first move several times on the trot until enough money has been fed back for the game to be able to "afford to pay" something again.

    This aspect of the AWP class of game is something MGS keep quiet about, ther is NOTHING about this in the game help, but neither is there anything that says the game is random, although this applies to ALL the games, it's just something we are expected to assume.


    Try cycling this game a few times in fun mode, and watch how each time there is a cycle, NOT randomness. Some cycles will return over 100%, but will be balanced by "dead" cycles that return less than 50%.
     
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  12. Dec 4, 2010
  13. 3mptyseat

    3mptyseat Quit Gambling PABnonaccred

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    hmmm

    I had never noticed any of those things on the old MG viper platform... I do notice similar things on the Level 11 US facing platform. And the cycle patterns that VWM speaks of; ur not going crazy, those are indeed cycles. Pattern recognition may be a trait of a genius, but basic pattern recognition is a normal part of our survival mechanism, and there are just a teensy weensy bit of patterns that repeat themselves on the mg slots. IGT slots too in the brick n mortars... and probably elsewhere.

    "In your opinion?" asked the Judge. (Anyone watch the Goodwife?)

    "Um, yes, In MY opinion!" replied 3mptyseat.

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  14. Dec 4, 2010
  15. petro

    petro Dormant account, per user request PABnoaccred2 PABaccred

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    Mirvel.

    1)Do you get disconnected from a casino for no reason.....(you stil have internet all other programs work fine and you can reconnect with the casino in seconds without a problem)

    Yes.

    2)Reels that "always" stop in a certain order all of a sudden change the order they stop.(Example: reel 3 wil stop before reel 1 or 2 )

    Cant remember, maybe rarely.

    3) The reels wont stop spinning at all.

    Yes, seems you have to exit the program and re-enter but your winnings if any will be added.

    4) all of a sudden scatters disapear or apear on a reel....

    Cant remember, I dont think this has happened.

    And the most important question....
    Does it in 99.5% of all cases happen when you WIN?
    and after it happens u dont get a thing again.

    I dont know. I dont think so though.

    I have found generally speaking that Microgaming casinos are reliable but there are some cheap casino tricks they regularly play:

    After a big win live help will let you wait 30+ minutes or just disconnect you from chat if you have any problems withdrawing. Typical casino trick to get you to play more.

    Not letting winning players at blackjack/vp and other games of skil join the VIP club even if they have met the requirements. They dont want winners in it, just losers.

    Sometimes staff can be snappy when you withdraw. Natural psycological reaction to people who beat the house.

    Sometimes they ignore your emails.

    But even with all these cheap casino tricks they are still from my experience the best online casinos to play at. Hey, at least they don't steal your money, as far as I know :)
     

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