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Microgaming and their bad coin/credit tricks

Discussion in 'Online Casinos' started by rainmaker, Mar 28, 2011.

    Mar 28, 2011
  1. rainmaker

    rainmaker I'm not a penguin CAG webmeister

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    To convert money into credits, coins, chips or whatever is an old strategy used by casinos. The reason may be to confuse the player. Players will probably much easier be caught up in the game when betting with "money-replacements". Players can relate to loosing $200, but to loose 200 coins/credits will just not give the same feeling. Coins/credits etc will contribute to lose track of how much a player really has won or lost. Especially confusing is it when 5 coins is a dollar etc.


    There are in my opinion, no good reasons why a casino/ casino provider should use this method when it comes to online gambling. But yes, they might use a "coin/credit-system" as an addition to a clear reference to how much "real" money being betted/won/lost etc (this together with the correct currency).

    I think it is a shame that Microgaming is still using the old outdated "coin/credit"-trick. For example Playtech, Net Entertainment or 3Dice does not have this practice (as I have seen) .


    Microgaming: Coins :mad:

    Microgaming and their bad coin/credit tricks: Microgaming.jpg,Mar 28, 2011

    Microgaming: Credits :mad:

    Microgaming and their bad coin/credit tricks: credit.jpg,Mar 28, 2011

    3Dice: :)

    Microgaming and their bad coin/credit tricks: 3dice.jpg,Mar 28, 2011

    NetEnt: :)

    Microgaming and their bad coin/credit tricks: NetEnt.JPG,Mar 28, 2011

    Playtech: :)

    Microgaming and their bad coin/credit tricks: playtech.jpg,Mar 28, 2011
     
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  3. deepsky2

    deepsky2 One more spin

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    Any microgaming casino I have played you can change it from coins to $ its your choice!!
     
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  5. petro

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    I agree with you here Rainmaker.
    They use terms like coins or credits.

    I have been confused about this in the past, being told something like I need to wager 2000 credits or 2000 coins and thinking it was only $20 or $200, only later to discover that it was $2k.

    Although, I don't think they do this deliberately.
    It would be better if the software was standardised to whatever currency you are using.
     
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  7. rainmaker

    rainmaker I'm not a penguin CAG webmeister

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    I rarely make a deposit to microgaming casinos. But when I have, the coin/credit system has been the standard. I did not see any "change" switch to $.
     
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  9. petro

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    There is, it can be located at options - display as coins or credits.
    But this does not change the wins during free games which are always displayed in coins.
     
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  11. rainmaker

    rainmaker I'm not a penguin CAG webmeister

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    Oki, thanks petro :)
     
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  13. deepsky2

    deepsky2 One more spin

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    with 32red, allslots, spinpalace etc. Yes you can change it by going to options as well most game you can click above the coins or dollar amount to change.
     
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  15. rainmaker

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    Ok. I see. Yes, I knew that you could change it to "credits". But you can not change it to see your currency and money. That is just what my thread was about. They use "credits" (or coins) as an psychological twist to distance the player from reality.

    I added "credits" to my main post. I know it may be a bit confusing since I only talked about "coins". But this also applies for "credits".
     
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  17. rainmaker

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    By the way, that is also a strategy to confuse the player. Players will often win most money in free spin / bonus rounds or whatever. To show big winnings in coins will only mislead the player. Creates distance to the real amount.


    For example, Playtech shows winnings in free spins as "$"..."Congratulations you have won $4543".

    In a Microgaming casino, a $4543 win from free spins would have been "congratulations, you have won 334234255342323 coins " :p
     
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  19. baldidiot

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    I didn't know that either, thanks. I've never really like the idea of coins/credits, although I thought it was to do with multiple currencies.
     
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  21. Nate

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    Microgaming does have this option fully integrated into the Download version ONLY. The flash version allows you to change it from credits to coins on the newer games only.

    Another annoying thing about the Flash Casino is the inability to monitor the amount of spins you have played - 'Stats' button - It's there but not clickable and only works on newer games.

    On older progressives like Wow Pot 3 Reel, you are not able to activate the Autoplay function, whilst on Tunzamuni it's available. Being more of a flash player than a download enthusiast, i believe they should iron these out and make the software consistent.

    Nate
     
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  23. rainmaker

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    Yes, many will probably think it has to do with multiple currencies , but that is not the case.

    From the moment a player logs into a Microgaming casino, the layout will "help" a player to lose understanding of real money value. This is intentionally.

    What's the difference?

    Balance: $1000 (Playtech)

    Credits: 1000 (Microgaming)
     
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  25. baldidiot

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    I guess none. :confused:
     
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  27. Stovetopp

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    I am not defending Microgaming I am even forbidden to play there because of where I reside. However, SLOTS were developed for the non rocket scientist.
    So if you are playing 10 cents unil and playing 9 lines then you are playing 90 cents per spin If you decide to play 5 units per line so its 5 x 10 cents x 9 lines = 4.50.
    Now substitute, pounds , euro dollars , pesos for cents and whamo you know how much you are losing.

    In closing, this thread is a non issue and if you are fooled by the "sites" then dont play there
     
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  29. rainmaker

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    This is not about "being fooled" by a casino or me not being able to understand that one credit is one dollar or whatever. But I find the psychological view of gambling quite interesting.

    I only wanted to point out that I find it quite strange that Microgaming still uses this old outdated strategy, while other casino providers don`t.

    But I can understand that it creates little interest in addressing such a topic in a general casino forum.
     
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  31. baldidiot

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    This depends on your currency - some places will let you deposit in Yen and have an exchange rate of 200 yen = 1 credit or something. It isn't always 1 currency unit = 1 credit.
     
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  33. BoyleCasino.com

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    I'm not sure this system was developed to 'confuse' players since we operators seem to do everything possible lately to make things as clear as possible. I think it's more of an operational developent. When you consider some sites accept 30+ different currencies from many different countries, a universal language helps when dealing with questions or problems. It also helped with software development and websites before the days of fancy coding.

    I agree currency works better but I'd say the coins feature was developed with the best intentions.
     
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  35. quber

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    what annoys me with the microgaming coin/credit thing is that you have to change each game individually, why can't there be one choice that does it for every game. I like to see how much actual money I have and every month I have to load each game, go into options and change it. :mad:
     
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  37. Scooter7

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    credits/coins display makes the end of feature displays look way more impressive

    You've won 14,945 coins!

    As far as I'm concerned, $149.45 would be easier to understand and just as impressive.
    There can be only one reason for using displays like this-player manipulation.
     
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  39. rainmaker

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    Yes, that may be an explanation, but I don't agree mister BoyleCasino :)

    That is because the coin itself does not have a currency (isolated). The value of a players coin is determined by the players chosen currency. So if a casino offers 30+ currencies, then the CS must deal with all of those because the coins reference point always will be the players currency.
     

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