Microgaming and their bad coin/credit tricks

[rainmaker]

To convert money into credits, coins, chips or whatever is an old strategy used by casinos. The reason may be to confuse the player. Players will probably much easier be caught up in the game when betting with "money-replacements". Players can relate to loosing $200, but to loose 200 coins/credits will just not give the same feeling. Coins/credits etc will contribute to lose track of how much a player really has won or lost. Especially confusing is it when 5 coins is a dollar etc.


There are in my opinion, no good reasons why a casino/ casino provider should use this method when it comes to online gambling. But yes, they might use a "coin/credit-system" as an addition to a clear reference to how much "real" money being betted/won/lost etc (this together with the correct currency).

I think it is a shame that Microgaming is still using the old outdated "coin/credit"-trick. For example Playtech, Net Entertainment or 3Dice does not have this practice (as I have seen) .


Microgaming: Coins



Microgaming: Credits



3Dice:



NetEnt:



Playtech:

 

[deepsky2]

Any microgaming casino I have played you can change it from coins to $ its your choice!!

 

[petro]

I agree with you here Rainmaker.
They use terms like coins or credits.

I have been confused about this in the past, being told something like I need to wager 2000 credits or 2000 coins and thinking it was only $20 or $200, only later to discover that it was $2k.

Although, I don't think they do this deliberately.
It would be better if the software was standardised to whatever currency you are using.

 

[rainmaker]

Any microgaming casino I have played you can change it from coins to $ its your choice!!

I rarely make a deposit to microgaming casinos. But when I have, the coin/credit system has been the standard. I did not see any "change" switch to $.

 

[petro]

I did not see any "change" switch.

There is, it can be located at options - display as coins or credits.
But this does not change the wins during free games which are always displayed in coins.

 

[rainmaker]

There is, it can be located at options - display as coins or credits.
But this does not change the wins during free games which are always displayed in coins.

Oki, thanks petro

 

[deepsky2]

with 32red, allslots, spinpalace etc. Yes you can change it by going to options as well most game you can click above the coins or dollar amount to change.

 

[rainmaker]

with 32red, allslots, spinpalace etc. Yes you can change it by going to options as well most game you can click above the coins or dollar amount to change.

Ok. I see. Yes, I knew that you could change it to "credits". But you can not change it to see your currency and money. That is just what my thread was about. They use "credits" (or coins) as an psychological twist to distance the player from reality.

I added "credits" to my main post. I know it may be a bit confusing since I only talked about "coins". But this also applies for "credits".

 

[rainmaker]

There is, it can be located at options - display as coins or credits.
But this does not change the wins during free games which are always displayed in coins.

By the way, that is also a strategy to confuse the player. Players will often win most money in free spin / bonus rounds or whatever. To show big winnings in coins will only mislead the player. Creates distance to the real amount.


For example, Playtech shows winnings in free spins as "$"..."Congratulations you have won $4543".

In a Microgaming casino, a $4543 win from free spins would have been "congratulations, you have won 334234255342323 coins "

 

[baldidiot]

There is, it can be located at options - display as coins or credits.
But this does not change the wins during free games which are always displayed in coins.

I didn't know that either, thanks. I've never really like the idea of coins/credits, although I thought it was to do with multiple currencies.

 

[Nate]

Microgaming does have this option fully integrated into the Download version ONLY. The flash version allows you to change it from credits to coins on the newer games only.

Another annoying thing about the Flash Casino is the inability to monitor the amount of spins you have played - 'Stats' button - It's there but not clickable and only works on newer games.

On older progressives like Wow Pot 3 Reel, you are not able to activate the Autoplay function, whilst on Tunzamuni it's available. Being more of a flash player than a download enthusiast, i believe they should iron these out and make the software consistent.

Nate

 

[rainmaker]

I didn't know that either, thanks. I've never really like the idea of coins/credits, although I thought it was to do with multiple currencies.

Yes, many will probably think it has to do with multiple currencies , but that is not the case.

From the moment a player logs into a Microgaming casino, the layout will "help" a player to lose understanding of real money value. This is intentionally.

What's the difference?

Balance: $1000 (Playtech)

Credits: 1000 (Microgaming)

 

[baldidiot]

Yes, many will probably think it has to do with multiple currencies , but that is not the case.

From the moment a player logs into a Microgaming casino, the layout will "help" a player to lose understanding of real money value. This is intentionally.

What's the difference?

Balance: $1000 (Playtech)

Credits: 1000 (Microgaming)

I guess none.

 

[Stovetopp]

I am not defending Microgaming I am even forbidden to play there because of where I reside. However, SLOTS were developed for the non rocket scientist.
So if you are playing 10 cents unil and playing 9 lines then you are playing 90 cents per spin If you decide to play 5 units per line so its 5 x 10 cents x 9 lines = 4.50.
Now substitute, pounds , euro dollars , pesos for cents and whamo you know how much you are losing.

In closing, this thread is a non issue and if you are fooled by the "sites" then dont play there

 

[rainmaker]

I am not defending Microgaming I am even forbidden to play there because of where I reside. However, SLOTS were developed for the non rocket scientist.
So if you are playing 10 cents unil and playing 9 lines then you are playing 90 cents per spin If you decide to play 5 units per line so its 5 x 10 cents x 9 lines = 4.50.
Now substitute, pounds , euro dollars , pesos for cents and whamo you know how much you are losing.

In closing, this thread is a non issue and if you are fooled by the "sites" then dont play there

This is not about "being fooled" by a casino or me not being able to understand that one credit is one dollar or whatever. But I find the psychological view of gambling quite interesting.

I only wanted to point out that I find it quite strange that Microgaming still uses this old outdated strategy, while other casino providers don`t.

But I can understand that it creates little interest in addressing such a topic in a general casino forum.

 

[baldidiot]

So if you are playing 10 cents unil and playing 9 lines then you are playing 90 cents per spin If you decide to play 5 units per line so its 5 x 10 cents x 9 lines = 4.50.
Now substitute, pounds , euro dollars , pesos for cents and whamo you know how much you are losing.

This depends on your currency - some places will let you deposit in Yen and have an exchange rate of 200 yen = 1 credit or something. It isn't always 1 currency unit = 1 credit.

 

[BoyleCasino.com]

I'm not sure this system was developed to 'confuse' players since we operators seem to do everything possible lately to make things as clear as possible. I think it's more of an operational developent. When you consider some sites accept 30+ different currencies from many different countries, a universal language helps when dealing with questions or problems. It also helped with software development and websites before the days of fancy coding.

I agree currency works better but I'd say the coins feature was developed with the best intentions.

 

[quber]

what annoys me with the microgaming coin/credit thing is that you have to change each game individually, why can't there be one choice that does it for every game. I like to see how much actual money I have and every month I have to load each game, go into options and change it.

 

[Scooter7]

credits/coins display makes the end of feature displays look way more impressive

You've won 14,945 coins!

As far as I'm concerned, $149.45 would be easier to understand and just as impressive.
There can be only one reason for using displays like this-player manipulation.

 

[rainmaker]

I'm not sure this system was developed to 'confuse' players since we operators seem to do everything possible lately to make things as clear as possible. I think it's more of an operational developent. When you consider some sites accept 30+ different currencies from many different countries, a universal language helps when dealing with questions or problems. It also helped with software development and websites before the days of fancy coding.

I agree currency works better but I'd say the coins feature was developed with the best intentions.

Yes, that may be an explanation, but I don't agree mister BoyleCasino

That is because the coin itself does not have a currency (isolated). The value of a players coin is determined by the players chosen currency. So if a casino offers 30+ currencies, then the CS must deal with all of those because the coins reference point always will be the players currency.

 

[Stovetopp]

This depends on your currency - some places will let you deposit in Yen and have an exchange rate of 200 yen = 1 credit or something. It isn't always 1 currency unit = 1 credit.

OK OK I stand corrected.
I didn't know that they have the same baloney that 200 yens = one credit etc etc.

Quite frankly I get confused myself. Whenever, I am in Vegas I play VP mostly..Sometimes I take a break and play slots..Some have 2cents equal one credit and it confuses the hell out of me but I dont think the casino is trying to "fool" me. It doesnt make any difference to me though , I play maxcoins for a few dollars and the first hit however small ,I quit. Now I know why I get 2 times the amount when they say I have won so many credits LOL

 

[rainmaker]

OK OK I stand corrected.
I didn't know that they have the same baloney that 200 yens = one credit etc etc.

Quite frankly I get confused myself. Whenever, I am in Vegas I play VP mostly..Sometimes I take a break and play slots..Some have 2cents equal one credit and it confuses the hell out of me but I dont think the casino is trying to "fool" me. It doesnt make any difference to me though , I play maxcoins for a few dollars and the first hit however small ,I quit. Now I know why I get 2 times the amount when they say I have won so many credits LOL

We all get confused sometimes

The thing is that I don't say that people will be "fooled" by this. But I just want people to understand that there is a reason why they do have a "coin" system. And players should not go around and think that a casinos design/way of doing business is completely random. Perhaps knowledge of these things will help players to gamble more rational. There's no doubt that players sometimes will let themselves be "carried away".

 

[chayton]

This is something I noticed at our B&M casino. They have all these new games that are 2 or 5 cent machines....with 30 or 50 or 100 lines, and you bet X credits per line. Ray won something once and started betting max credits per line and maybe 20 spins later was out of money. I said uhhh you were betting $25 per spin! For some that's not a big deal but for someone (like me) who highrolls at $1...

 

[rainmaker]

This is something I noticed at our B&M casino. They have all these new games that are 2 or 5 cent machines....with 30 or 50 or 100 lines, and you bet X credits per line. Ray won something once and started betting max credits per line and maybe 20 spins later was out of money. I said uhhh you were betting $25 per spin! For some that's not a big deal but for someone (like me) who highrolls at $1...

Don`t ever press the "max bet"-button. It can be brutal

Ray- if I remember correct. He is a friend of yours that had a good winner screenshot here some months ago (or something)

 

[chayton]

Don`t ever press the "max bet"-button. It can be brutal

Ray- if I remember correct. He is a friend of yours that had a good winner screenshot here some months ago (or something)

yeah he won a Queen of the Pyramids (playtech) jackpot for $30K and change. Of course it's all gone now. Now it's MY turn!