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Microgaming Aces and Eights Paytable?

Discussion in 'Online Casinos' started by SlotsWizard, Aug 4, 2006.

    Aug 4, 2006
  1. SlotsWizard

    SlotsWizard Dormant account webmeister

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    I swear I never saw this VP game at Microgaming before - Aces and Eights - maybe I just assumed it was Aces and Faces. Anyway, after discovering it I hopped on to the You must register/login in order to see the link. to check out the paytable. There isn't one specifically for this paytable, however, his top-paying table has a 99.78% payback.

    Microgaming's Aces and Eights paytable is exactly the same as the 99.78% paytable except the Straight Flush pays 70x instead of 50x. While I know it is incorrect to do so, if you use the 99.78% paytable and just substitute 70 instead of 50 for the Straight Flush (assuming the exact same combinations, which is most likely incorrect), the total overall payout becomes an astounding 99.995537%.

    If/when the combinations are fully and properly analyzed, is it safe to say that this game probably has slightly more than a 100% payback? Can someone with a little more mathematical/actuarial fortitude than myself please check into this?

    And in the meantime - Microgaming, can you please make a 100-Hand Power Poker version of this game with the exact same paytable and perfect-strategy auto-hold please? :D
     
    Last edited: Aug 4, 2006
  2. Aug 4, 2006
  3. Lunkhead

    Lunkhead Dormant account

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    California
    I ran it in my VP software, and it shows 100.0001%. Your calculations are probably correct, but don't account for (probably minor) strategy changes between the two paytables.

    Are you sure the paytable is correct?

    800-70-80-50-25-8-5-4-3-2-1 is what I typed in.
     
  4. Aug 4, 2006
  5. soflat

    soflat Senior Member

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    Using WinPoker I got 99.09% with a Variance of 21.6.

    The 'Other' 4 of a Kinds only pay 20 (not 25).
     
  6. Aug 4, 2006
  7. Lunkhead

    Lunkhead Dormant account

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    California
    Yeah, I just looked that up. You're right, the 4 of a kind pays 20, not 25, and I'm showing the exact same 99.09%.

    Too bad. Would have been nice to play an over 100% VP game online.
     
  8. Aug 4, 2006
  9. SlotsWizard

    SlotsWizard Dormant account webmeister

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    Aha.....I figured I had to be missing something. I thought it was too good to be true.

    Thank you all for your efforts.

    (And what a bummer!)
     
  10. Aug 5, 2006
  11. Simmo!

    Simmo! Moderator Staff Member

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    Nudge nudge...Joker Poker...wink wink..iNetbet...:thumbsup:
     
  12. Aug 5, 2006
  13. tencardcharlie

    tencardcharlie Dormant account

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    What is the return for that game?
     
  14. Aug 5, 2006
  15. Rusty

    Rusty Banned User - repetitive flaming

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    If there were any games out there paying over 100% return I am sure we would all let the casino know immediately.:rolleyes:
     
  16. Aug 5, 2006
  17. Simmo!

    Simmo! Moderator Staff Member

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    100.18% in single-hand or 100.05% in multi-hand play last time I looked (back-end of 2005)
     
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  18. Aug 5, 2006
  19. amatrine

    amatrine Crazy Cat Lady webmeister

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    No wonder I do so well on Joker Poker at Inet,lol

    Ama
     

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