MG Inconsistancies

AudiManinBoro

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I know that MG casinos are supposedly set across the board and that the RTP is the same at one casino as at another but at times I really do find this hard to believe. The last year or so I have confined my play more or less to 32Red and sure I have my losing sessions, I had a horrible run the last few weeks or so up until a few days ago, tonight in particular being an incredible fun filled ride of bonuses galore and some really nice cashouts but Im no amateur player and I have had accounts and still do at many of the larger mg casinos over the last ten years or so and I can honestly say that I notice a massive difference between the brands.

There are some casinos, names I wont mention that in the past im upto like 50 + deposits with and never had a sniff of a cashout or even any of those rare magical moments where we all go oo aa when we hit something nice. To me some are worse than others, and some are a LOT worse, yet some casinos 32red for example seem a lot fairer than most. Ive had a blinding good run of luck the last few days here and ive encountered this with them several times in the past, yet other casinos its like putting money into a dead duck.

They say its all down to how lucky you are or hitting the place at the right time, but 50 + deposits in certain casinos and never seeing it really does make you wonder. I just dont get how your play time and your ability to hit nice wins can only be appropriated to certain casinos if they are in fact generic across the board. Im not sure I really buy into it.

The only thing I do know is that the casinos who seem to come across as fairer will always get my business and in the last 12 months or so I have to say im completely astounded at 32Red.

Thoughts? Opinions?
 

Nifty29

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A good start would be to obtain your personal RTP over 12 months at each casino involved. Comparing cashouts to deposits doesn't cut the mustard. You will need to know your total amount wagered and total amount won to obtain this figure.

Remember, you can have an RTP of 95% and still never cashout.

Other factors may involve how often you could have withdrawn but didn't, along with bet size vs bankroll and even game choice.

MGS operators cannot alter the rtp of games as they are all fixed.
 

AudiManinBoro

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I know what your trying to say Nifty but im not technically minded in that sense at all and I imagine many people aernt. All I know is if i make a deposit and claim a bonus, or dont claim a bonus its nice at some point to be able to make a withdrawal or hit something nice. With some casinos it simply doesnt happen.
Ive never been on one of those players who just puts it all back in again in the event of hitting a good win, but there are some mg casinos that you just simply never seem to hit a good win on no matter how hard you try or how many chances you give them. Im sorry but 50 + deposits and no chance of redemption is a good point as any to me to stay clear of that casino. It might be bad luck, it might just be swings and round abouts but like I said I personally dont buy it.
 

Nifty29

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I know what your trying to say Nifty but im not technically minded in that sense at all and I imagine many people aernt. All I know is if i make a deposit and claim a bonus, or dont claim a bonus its nice at some point to be able to make a withdrawal or hit something nice. With some casinos it simply doesnt happen.
Ive never been on one of those players who just puts it all back in again in the event of hitting a good win, but there are some mg casinos that you just simply never seem to hit a good win on no matter how hard you try or how many chances you give them. Im sorry but 50 + deposits and no chance of redemption is a good point as any to me to stay clear of that casino. It might be bad luck, it might just be swings and round abouts but like I said I personally dont buy it.

Totally cool.

I hear you, as I've been in that boat before.

People hate me saying it, but self-education and some discipline makes a huge difference when it comes to cashout rates. There's a great thread from about a year ago where everyone put their shillings worth in about what they do to improve their cashout rates....and I learnt a few things as a result, and it reminded me that we never stop learning if we really want to.....and knowledge IS power.

I'll try and dig the thread up its worth a read...might take time though.

I think a good place to start is go a whole month without taking a bonus. In addition, make a commitment to stop at 3x your last deposit no exceptions...then withdraw 2x the deposit and continue playing with the original amount again. You can raise the bar a little later as you develop the habit, but what it does is gets you used to cashing out something and gives you the feeling that you "got something" from your session other than playtime. Of course, it also means you have 2 new deposits to spend somewhere else or if you want to return the next day etc. I also found it stopped me going apeshit after a decent win and giving most of it back which is a killer. You see in the winners screenshot thread the huge hits some people get from pressing their bets, but they would be the first to admit that they blow the lot 99 times out of 100 and may well have been further ahead if they had cashed out their win each time.

Anyway, I hope it helps you some as nobody like losing 50+ deposits in a row. The interesting part would be to look back and see how,many times you reached 3x deposit and think about how much money you might have in your pocket now as a result.

Good luck :)
 

slotjunkie

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I know that MG casinos are supposedly set across the board and that the RTP is the same at one casino as at another but at times I really do find this hard to believe. The last year or so I have confined my play more or less to 32Red and sure I have my losing sessions, I had a horrible run the last few weeks or so up until a few days ago, tonight in particular being an incredible fun filled ride of bonuses galore and some really nice cashouts but Im no amateur player and I have had accounts and still do at many of the larger mg casinos over the last ten years or so and I can honestly say that I notice a massive difference between the brands.

There are some casinos, names I wont mention that in the past im upto like 50 + deposits with and never had a sniff of a cashout or even any of those rare magical moments where we all go oo aa when we hit something nice. To me some are worse than others, and some are a LOT worse, yet some casinos 32red for example seem a lot fairer than most. Ive had a blinding good run of luck the last few days here and ive encountered this with them several times in the past, yet other casinos its like putting money into a dead duck.

They say its all down to how lucky you are or hitting the place at the right time, but 50 + deposits in certain casinos and never seeing it really does make you wonder. I just dont get how your play time and your ability to hit nice wins can only be appropriated to certain casinos if they are in fact generic across the board. Im not sure I really buy into it.

The only thing I do know is that the casinos who seem to come across as fairer will always get my business and in the last 12 months or so I have to say im completely astounded at 32Red.

Thoughts? Opinions?

I will never believe anything that I can not see clear proof of, but I will always believe my 6th sense(that gut feeling). God put it there and gave us a brain for us to be smart enough to listen to it.
My2...
 

slotjunkie

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Totally cool.

I hear you, as I've been in that boat before.

People hate me saying it, but self-education and some discipline makes a huge difference when it comes to cashout rates. There's a great thread from about a year ago where everyone put their shillings worth in about what they do to improve their cashout rates....and I learnt a few things as a result, and it reminded me that we never stop learning if we really want to.....and knowledge IS power.

I'll try and dig the thread up its worth a read...might take time though.

I think a good place to start is go a whole month without taking a bonus. In addition, make a commitment to stop at 3x your last deposit no exceptions...then withdraw 2x the deposit and continue playing with the original amount again. You can raise the bar a little later as you develop the habit, but what it does is gets you used to cashing out something and gives you the feeling that you "got something" from your session other than playtime. Of course, it also means you have 2 new deposits to spend somewhere else or if you want to return the next day etc. I also found it stopped me going apeshit after a decent win and giving most of it back which is a killer. You see in the winners screenshot thread the huge hits some people get from pressing their bets, but they would be the first to admit that they blow the lot 99 times out of 100 and may well have been further ahead if they had cashed out their win each time.

Anyway, I hope it helps you some as nobody like losing 50+ deposits in a row. The interesting part would be to look back and see how,many times you reached 3x deposit and think about how much money you might have in your pocket now as a result.

Good luck :)

You are in tune(for the most part :) when it comes to these type of things. However, I have NEVER been able, even came close to a cashout with the betonsoft(all) software in 1 1/2+ years and I only seldom take a bonus. It has just not been an option, so them getting my money anymore is not an option. I had completely lost my mind letting it go on for that long, mainly because I love the games and graphics, but I like my money more so...and the payout SUCKS!!!

This is just in my experience.
 

Nifty29

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You are in tune(for the most part :) when it comes to these type of things. However, I have NEVER been able, even came close to a cashout with the betonsoft(all) software in 1 1/2+ years and I only seldom take a bonus. It has just not been an option, so them getting my money anymore is not an option. I had completely lost my mind letting it go on for that long, mainly because I love the games and graphics, but I like my money more so...and the payout SUCKS!!!

This is just in my experience.

When it comes to betonsoft, I agree with you. My experience has been awful as well, although others absolutely swear by them.

However, I don't think there is anything untoward, as we would all be having the same experience, which is not the case.
 

mn001

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Since I can't prove it I wont mention software.

I notice some days certain slots with bonuses where you have to collect a few things before it starts will be stone cold. And I can say after 30-40 spins already that when the bonus hits it will be very bad. Then other days I can say after 30-40 spins it will be good bonus round. And this is 100% sure for me. Since no proof can be provided I rest my case and profit from this knowledge.
 

KasinoKing

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Since I can't prove it I wont mention software.

I notice some days certain slots with bonuses where you have to collect a few things before it starts will be stone cold. And I can say after 30-40 spins already that when the bonus hits it will be very bad. Then other days I can say after 30-40 spins it will be good bonus round. And this is 100% sure for me. Since no proof can be provided I rest my case and profit from this knowledge.
Well assuming it's not MG (as your post appears to be slightly off-topic), I would guess you are talking about Boss Media or NetEnt casinos.

Your observations are very interesting; if true and on the above softwares, you could use them to your advantage. Have you tried that? Or is it all just "gut feeling"?

KK
 

AudiManinBoro

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Totally cool.

Anyway, I hope it helps you some as nobody like losing 50+ deposits in a row. The interesting part would be to look back and see how,many times you reached 3x deposit and think about how much money you might have in your pocket now as a result.

Good luck :)
Well the one particular casino im thinking of, the 50 + deposits one I cant actually recall ever having the opportunity to cash out at, my luck there has been absolutely dire lol I mean the worst possible you could ever have and multiplied by 100 lol But there are others and your right where i Could have cashed out twice or three times my deposit I suppose and maybe its just my warped sense of want but i usually aim for at least 5 times if i can if not more but this is probably my failing and borders down to greed lol :D
 

vinylweatherman

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I have played a large number of MG casinos over the years, and have often noticed how streaky the games and casinos can be. Other than the average and unremarkable sessions, I have some where i can do nothing right, yet others where I can do nothing wrong. There are also MG casinos where I seem to have lucky accounts overall, and others that just suck and suck for YEARS on end.

My worst ever accounts are VIP Lounge, All Slots, and Music Hall. My star accounts are All Jackpots, 32Red, and Purple Lounge. 25K ahead at Purple Lounge, and around 45K ahead at 32Red and All Jackpots.

GNUF I am down over 6K, but had I cashed out more aggressively and not bothered retaining my Platinum VIP status, I could easily be 10K ahead or more, but probably with a bonus ban.

I notice that my bonus bans are almost all at accounts where I am well ahead, and the best bonuses come to accounts I am down on. My strategy is to play more where I am already down, as I am given a better chance to get ahead through getting more boni.

The last couple of weeks has again seen 3 Card Poker heat up considerably, but I came to grief in the end at VIP Lounge with "normal service has been resumed" seeing me get barely a straight every 50 hands, whilst the dealer rattles off straights, fushes, 3ok and straight flushes beating my constant high cards and pairs.

I went up at Royal vegas on 3 card poker, only to have it sucked back. I did at least win the 777 Bling MPV for $3000, and made a total profit of £200.

32 Red saw my £4000 of deposits, mostly on 3 card poker, come close to vanishing, only to have several surges with a second peak of £5000 being where I quit for £1000 profit. Next day it was the store for the bonus, and then onward to play off my £280 worth of comps. These ended up with another £3000 on top of the £5000. Today, stone cold dead on the store bonus.

I am sure next time will see other accounts playing well, and some that played well last year sucking much of it back.

My bad session at VIP Lounge has at least got me on "the list" for up to 2 months provided I don't make a withdrawal. Werewolf bonuses there tonight, followed by my 10% tomorrow. WR for VIPs is only 15x B (in other words, +EV over the long term). I will also find out whether being on "the list" is worth the bother, as this is my first time.

My strategies are based on my belief that operators CANNOT mess with RTP, and that over time things will balance out. What makes the difference is marketing, and whether some offers are better than others. I also know that by playing a fair bit on the AWP games, I will occasionally hit one of the "megastreaks" that can turn things right round, turning a losing account into a winning one. My last megastreak was at Casino Classic, which turned this from a losing account to a winning one. Maybe I will get a HipHopOMegapotamus at VIP lounge and turn this from the worst performing account to one that is more average.
 

vinylweatherman

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I love to hear about you getting a boni Vinyl......

:p

I wasn't on "the list" for long. I worked my 10% cashback up to £5000 and decided to withdraw it, rather than leave it there to remain on "the list". Getting on this list requires £5000 to be deposited and played through, so in most cases it is something that happens after a bad session or two, rather than something to aim for. Last night's werewolf bonus was 50% up to £500, and doesn't rely on being on this list. It is therefore going to be early February before much of this 5K finds it's way back to VIP Lounge.

Nice start to this week's 777 Bling at Fortune Lounge, and this leads me to try to see how far I can get over the 100 continues. Only first and second place is worth the bother, and makes a profit on the overall $700 now required to be deposited and spent on doing the 100 continues. This will be £500 of last week's £2K withdrawal to see if I can produce another 2K next weekend:D
 
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