Mega Fortune - close to €10 million

[dionysus]

can't be won, triggered or can't be claimed?

edit: reviewed previous posts..netent apparently says cant be won with 'bonus funds'....


still, cant be triggered or claimed though

 

[Nifty29]

It has been confirmed that the progressive jackpots on Mega Fortune can't be won from free spins, so it's a bit of a con of a promotion.

Afaik, the last jackpot was won by somebody playing promotional free spins.

I remember the discussion about whether he would have WR, which was of course waived.

Perhaps you mean the jackpot can't be won during the free spins feature during the game? It still sucks in that case....the bonus symbols should be removed during free spins if it is true.

 

[ChopleyIOM]

Afaik, the last jackpot was won by somebody playing promotional free spins.

I remember the discussion about whether he would have WR, which was of course waived.

Perhaps you mean the jackpot can't be won during the free spins feature during the game? It still sucks in that case....the bonus symbols should be removed during free spins if it is true.

https://www.casinomeister.com/forums/threads/mega-fortune-close-to-€10-million.53857/

Another thing it's important to know is that you can't win the Mega Fortune jackpot using free rounds.

I know a lot of casinos are marketing free rounds/spins as though you can win the jackpot with them and we were guilty of it in the past.

However, I then checked with NetEnt and discovered you can only win the jackpot with real money funded rounds, so bear that in mind.


Andy

 

[LaHutti]

I believe it was won with the funds he won from free spins.
if you win an amount during free spins, and use the funds to keep playing, you're playing paid spins.

I don't even want to guess on the odds of that happening btw

Afaik, the last jackpot was won by somebody playing promotional free spins.

I remember the discussion about whether he would have WR, which was of course waived.

Perhaps you mean the jackpot can't be won during the free spins feature during the game? It still sucks in that case....the bonus symbols should be removed during free spins if it is true.

 

[ShakethatCrutch]

Afaik, the last jackpot was won by somebody playing promotional free spins.

I remember the discussion about whether he would have WR, which was of course waived.

Perhaps you mean the jackpot can't be won during the free spins feature during the game? It still sucks in that case....the bonus symbols should be removed during free spins if it is true.

The jackpot can't be won during free rounds (which some people call free spins).

It can, however, be won with the money won from free rounds and it can be won during free spins.

 

[lionbleu]

Are the sequences of Mega Fortune's reels known to the public? I swear there are consecutive wild symbols and scatter symbols, two of each, either on the first or the second reel from the left. Can't remember for sure whether I've ever gotten the consecutive wilds as it's a reasonably common symbol but I'm certain that I've never gotten consecutive scatters (ie. champagnes). The thing with consecutive scatters is, obviously, that it would give at least double your money on given spin with just a single reel. While I just spun 150 rounds (play money) prior to writing this just to capture them in a screen shot I didn't see either case. They might be almost as rare as a unicorn but I'm certain I've seen both of them multiple times.

Now I don't have a tracker that records data on my slot gaming but I'm sure I've spun the reels on MF at least ten thousand times (usually I use autoplay). The implications of this phenomenon? If you don't get a pair of consecutive symbols on your lines during a very large amount of playing rounds, the reels don't stop randomly. The absence randomness implies that the game is rigged and thus not fair (and should be banned etc.). Can anyone else confirm having seen consecutive wild and scatter symbols? There are consecutive bonus symbols, too, at least on the first reel from the left; can't remember if I'm ever gotten them.

 

[lionbleu]

As for the bonus rounds, I used to get my heart really racing when I got to the innermost wheel. Better yet, I barely passed the mega JP, ending on the one next to it! Since then I've played MF quite a lot (mainly when the mega JP has grown to at least 6 million euros), especially since the current JP reached over 8 M€ (ie. about the last three months) and now I don't even blink upon getting to the innermost wheel anymore and have learned that the MJP+1 sector is the most common one (wonder why...). Like I wrote in the previous message, I've played at least 10k rounds. I've won the rapid JP exactly once, for under 200 euros IIRC. I've never hit neither the mega JP nor the major JP despite getting to the innermost wheel probably something like 30-40 times. I started to video record those spins on the innermost wheel some time ago after getting a new smart phone and now have the last 13-15 on "tape". Granted even 40 spins isn't nearly a big enough sample to prove anything regarding a chance of 1/6 (ie. mega or major JP) but come on... A representative of Redbet acknowledging that one's chances of winning the big one depend on the bet size is eye opening, though. Wonder if it says so anywhere in the rules of the game. Perhaps he could tell whether the stakes affect your chances of winning the two smaller jackpots as well.

Oh and I guess I should mention I have played with a bet size of 0.25, 50.00 and most of the in-between ones, the average being probably something like 2.00. The most I've won on a single spin (not including free spins) was 517.50 euros at a bet of 12.50 (got a screenshot in case anyone cares).

Another observation about the bonus play: Anyone else feel like getting to the middle wheel is way easier than the physical probability suggests? You should have a 50/50 chance to get to the middle wheel but I'm sure for me it's been like 70-85% (haven't kept score). This of course is nothing to be happy about if the rest of the game is rigged, though. Also, I understand that in a 50/50 situation it can take a very long time for the results to even out.

Having written all of this I wonder why I have continued to play MF so long, so far being down way over one thousand euros to it altogether.

 

[ChopleyIOM]

Don't mean to be rude here lionbleu, but everything you're complaining about is covered in the help file.

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It explicitly states that the fortune wheel itself does not represent true odds:

The Chocolate Wheel in the Bonus feature of this game does not represent a "real", physical wheel and the probabilities of it stopping on any particular spot is determined by the game's random number generator, and not the number of positions on each wheel.

i.e. Your actual chances of hitting the mega jackpot off the centre wheel are more like one in fifty million rather than one in twelve.

And what you're left with after the very hefty progressive contributions:

Mega Fortune contains Mega, Major and Rapid Jackpots. The following contributions are made from each bet:
1% of the bet is contributed to the RAPID Jackpot.
1% of the bet is contributed to the MAJOR Jackpot.
5.39% of the bet is contributed to the MEGA Jackpot.

Is a pretty low variance base game with an RTP of 89.21% which is an absolutely horrible payout and that's why they've pegged the base game as low variance, as anything more than that would render it even worse to play in terms of ever getting any half-decent wins.

Think of this slot as a lottery ticket.

Deposit some money, play a couple of hundred spins, take some shots at the wheel, and walk away when you don't win.

Plugging away at Mega Fortune in the hope of hitting a jackpot is comparable to buying a thousand lottery tickets per week instead of a couple, on the basis that you're 'more likely to win'.

Yes, statistically you are more likely to win the more you play, but you're still just adding the tiniest little chance on top of the tiniest little chance.

The mega fortune wheel itself is just an illusion, and in all honesty it should be clear that it HAS to be an illusion, otherwise the slot would be dropping mega jackpots into the laps of every player who cared to put a thousand spins through it.

 

[Balthazar]

Is a pretty low variance base game with an RTP of 89.21% which is an absolutely horrible payout and that's why they've pegged the base game as low variance, as anything more than that would render it even worse to play in terms of ever getting any half-decent wins.

To be honest Chop, MG managed to do a high variance game (TDK) with a similar base game RTP and similar mega jackpots. I'm pretty sure that most people would agree that TDK is light years ahead of Mega Fortune in terms of entertainment.

IMO, the fact that Mega Fortune is low variance IS the main problem. A well done high variance slot would be a lot more enjoyable, as people would feel like they can win outside of the unlikely event of hitting a progressive jackpot.

A lot of people, including myself, play TDK just for the base game without even having the jackpot in mind. I don't think it's the case with Mega Fortune.

 

[ChopleyIOM]

To be honest Chop, MG managed to do a high variance game (TDK) with a similar base game RTP and similar mega jackpots. I'm pretty sure that most people would agree that TDK is light years ahead of Mega Fortune in terms of entertainment.

IMO, the fact that Mega Fortune is low variance IS the main problem. A well done high variance slot would be a lot more enjoyable, as people would feel like they can win outside of the unlikely event of hitting a progressive jackpot.

A lot of people, including myself, play TDK just for the base game without even having the jackpot in mind. I don't think it's the case with Mega Fortune.

Point taken Balth although I think it says more about the horrors of Mega Fortune that TDK would be preferable to it, than it does about the inherent qualities of TDK (which personally I think is a pretty horrible slot).

There's no reason a high quality low-variance slot can't work with progressives, case in point perhaps would be Alice & The Mad Tea Party at Jackpot Party (where of course there's a forced 3% contribution to progressives on every single slot), which is a low-medium variance slot and works fantastically well as a base game.

Don't forget, even low variance slots do have biggish wins on the paytable in the region of 200-300x stake.

 

[Balthazar]

Point taken Balth although I think it says more about the horrors of Mega Fortune that TDK would be preferable to it, than it does about the inherent qualities of TDK (which personally I think is a pretty horrible slot).

There's no reason a high quality low-variance slot can't work with progressives, case in point perhaps would be Alice & The Mad Tea Party at Jackpot Party (where of course there's a forced 3% contribution to progressives on every single slot), which is a low-medium variance slot and works fantastically well as a base game.

Don't forget, even low variance slots do have biggish wins on the paytable in the region of 200-300x stake.

Personally I put JPP in their own class, as they benefit from "real" slots which are generally far ahead of what we have online entertainment-wise. We're comparing apples and oranges here. They can afford a forced progressive and a lower RTP, people will play anyway.

Other than that I agree that it's not impossible to put a progressive jackpot on a low variance slot and keep the players interested, but it's much harder IMO.

I've been playing NetEnt for a month now and I have to say that ALL their progressive slots are pretty bad (sorry).

 

[Dave]

Mega Fortune zipped past €16 million about an hour ago.

 

[cyprean]

Does any site offer a cashback or any other kind of good promotion related to this game? 10 free spins isnt a good promotion in my books. NB offers weekend cashbacks, but anything else?

 

[baldidiot]

Does any site offer a cashback or any other kind of good promotion related to this game? 10 free spins isnt a good promotion in my books. NB offers weekend cashbacks, but anything else?

Stan James (not accred) are offering a fiver a day when you bet 5 on MF.

 

[cyprean]

Stan James (not accred) are offering a fiver a day when you bet 5 on MF.

If it was 50 for 50 then it might be worth the hassle. Not enough. Ty anyways.

 

[Jasminebed]

Mega Fortune bores me to tears to be honest. At least if I hit a bonus round in Mega Moolah or Dark Knight, I know I'll win a ten spot. Mega Fortune, I'm happy to win 1.75. Well, not that happy.

I've never had a killer bonus round on it, but in some fairness I've played it less. I find it easier to hit a bonus round on DK or Mega Moolah.

I truly hope a CM member wins it, I do I do.

 

[Nifty29]

Does any site offer a cashback or any other kind of good promotion related to this game? 10 free spins isnt a good promotion in my books. NB offers weekend cashbacks, but anything else?

Especially 10 free spins when you can't win the jackpot with them.....nordicbet sent some to me and I must say I'm very disappointed, as nowhere in the email do they state that you cannot win the JP on those free spins. NB could easily have just put $2.50 in the account, and at least the player could win the JP.

I didn't expect this kind of thing from NB.

 

[Balthazar]

Especially 10 free spins when you can't win the jackpot with them.....nordicbet sent some to me and I must say I'm very disappointed, as nowhere in the email do they state that you cannot win the JP on those free spins. NB could easily have just put $2.50 in the account, and at least the player could win the JP.

I didn't expect this kind of thing from NB.

I agree with Nifty. Getting free spins on Mega Fortune is a slap in the face and it's as bad, if not worse, than those 1 line 1 cent free spins scams. Shameful.

 

[KasinoKing]

Are the sequences of Mega Fortune's reels known to the public? I swear there are consecutive wild symbols and scatter symbols, two of each, either on the first or the second reel from the left. Can't remember for sure whether I've ever gotten the consecutive wilds as it's a reasonably common symbol but I'm certain that I've never gotten consecutive scatters (ie. champagnes). The thing with consecutive scatters is, obviously, that it would give at least double your money on given spin with just a single reel. While I just spun 150 rounds (play money) prior to writing this just to capture them in a screen shot I didn't see either case. They might be almost as rare as a unicorn but I'm certain I've seen both of them multiple times.

Now I don't have a tracker that records data on my slot gaming but I'm sure I've spun the reels on MF at least ten thousand times (usually I use autoplay). The implications of this phenomenon? If you don't get a pair of consecutive symbols on your lines during a very large amount of playing rounds, the reels don't stop randomly. The absence randomness implies that the game is rigged and thus not fair (and should be banned etc.). Can anyone else confirm having seen consecutive wild and scatter symbols? There are consecutive bonus symbols, too, at least on the first reel from the left; can't remember if I'm ever gotten them.

With the vast majority of online slots, within a millisecond of you pressing "spin" the RNG and associated software has decided the outcome of your spin (i.e. the positions the 5 reels will stop at).
Then, the client on your computer runs a program which "spins" the reels on your screen with a true representation of the reel-strips.
Just before each reel stops spinning, the software changes the reel-strip to "cut in" the finishing position.
With NetEnt slots the cut-in does not allow any extra symbols, which can sort-of hide the cut in a bit (like on MG slots).
There is no "logic" applied to the cut-in, therefore sometimes the cut-in puts two of the same symbol next to each other, even though they don't physically exist adjacently on the reel strips.
This is why you sometimes see two scatters or bonus symbols next to each other literally just before the reel stops spinning, but you will never see them in your final screen (after all reels have stopped).

KK

 

[Slotster!]

With the vast majority of online slots, within a millisecond of you pressing "spin" the RNG and associated software has decided the outcome of your spin (i.e. the positions the 5 reels will stop at).
Then, the client on your computer runs a program which "spins" the reels on your screen with a true representation of the reel-strips.
Just before each reel stops spinning, the software changes the reel-strip to "cut in" the finishing position.
With NetEnt slots the cut-in does not allow any extra symbols, which can sort-of hide the cut in a bit (like on MG slots).
There is no "logic" applied to the cut-in, therefore sometimes the cut-in puts two of the same symbol next to each other, even though they don't physically exist adjacently on the reel strips.
This is why you sometimes see two scatters or bonus symbols next to each other literally just before the reel stops spinning, but you will never see them in your final screen (after all reels have stopped).

KK

I've noticed on DOA @ Netent - the way the graphics are represented means you can often tell if a bonus will hit due to an inordinate amount of bonus symbols appearing on the reel during the 'cut in'. This is true of B&M slots also, notably Rainbow Riches - when you hit the 'Pots of Gold' bonus - almost the entire fourth reel turns into pots symbols...

You're spot on with the RNG bit up there. None of what you see makes a blind bit of difference!

 

[rainmaker]

I agree with Nifty. Getting free spins on Mega Fortune is a slap in the face and it's as bad, if not worse, than those 1 line 1 cent free spins scams. Shameful.

I agree that casinos should include in the promo text that it is not possible to actually win the Jackpot by using free spins given by the casino.

But I do not think that the player who won €11.7 million on Mega Fortune think it was a slap in the face to get some free Mega Fortune spins as he won the jackpot by using the funds he generated from these few spins

 

[Cogge]

I agree that casinos should include in the promo text that it is not possible to actually win the Jackpot by using free spins given by the casino.

But I do not think that the player who won €11.7 million on Mega Fortune think it was a slap in the face to get some free Mega Fortune spins as he won the jackpot by using the funds he generated from these few spins

He probably gave himself some slaps in the face afterwards to make sure he wasn't dreaming though

 

[Balthazar]

I agree that casinos should include in the promo text that it is not possible to actually win the Jackpot by using free spins given by the casino.

But I do not think that the player who won €11.7 million on Mega Fortune think it was a slap in the face to get some free Mega Fortune spins as he won the jackpot by using the funds he generated from these few spins

Sure, and you can win 5 cents with those 1 cent 1 line scams and turn it into 10M, too.

The point is, he could have won with the money generated with the free spins from any slot. He won it with "his" money, not the free spins. You know damn well rainmaker that this slot sucks, the only reason to play is to try to win the jackpot and giving away free spins where they can't even win it isn't very, hmm, ethical.

 

[rainmaker]

Sure, and you can win 5 cents with those 1 cent 1 line scams and turn it into 10M, too.

The point is, he could have won with the money generated with the free spins from any slot. He won it with "his" money, not the free spins. You know damn well rainmaker that this slot sucks, the only reason to play is to try to win the jackpot and giving away free spins where they can't even win it isn't very, hmm, ethical.

Well I can of course only talk for myself, but it happens that I get some Mega Fortune free spins from casinos and I always use them even though I now know it is not possible to actually hit the jackpot with them. The funds generated from these spins will usually buy me a few "real" spins, which I am happy with.

You can of course also win a few hundred on a €0.25 bet if you are really lucky

 

[Tirilej]

I agree that they should tell, but I also think that all free spins is worth playing.
It was just a few weeks ago that I won $1.30 from free spins and ended up cashing out $800.
Done it before with a few comppoints too. You'll never know what's going to happen