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Me no like InterCasino VP changes

Discussion in 'Online Casino and Poker Complaints - old section' started by luanwang, Oct 25, 2005.

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How do you think why Intercasino changed their "Double Bonus"VP?

  1. make InterCasino as true to life as possible

    0 vote(s)
    0.0%
  2. earn more from "Double bonus" VP

    15 vote(s)
    62.5%
  3. mislead the players to play more hands on VP

    5 vote(s)
    20.8%
  4. No reason. Just their right.

    4 vote(s)
    16.7%
    Oct 25, 2005
  1. luanwang

    luanwang Dormant account

    Location:
    Swiss
    Just I've received an email from Intercasino, in that they are "pleased" to announce they altered their Payout tables for "Double bonus" video poker as following:
    Hand Payout Payout Payout Payout Payout

    1 coin 2 coins 3 coins 4 coins 5 coins
    Royal flush 250 500 750 1000 4000
    Four Aces 160 320 480 640 800
    Four of 2, 3, or 4 80 160 240 320 400
    Straight flush 50 100 150 200 250
    Four of a Kind 50 100 150 200 250
    Full house 9 18 27 36 45
    Flush 7 14 21 28 35
    Straight 5 10 15 20 25
    Three of a kind 3 6 9 12 15
    Two Pairs 1 2 3 4 5
    Jacks or Better 1 2 3 4 5


    According to the new payout tables the total return is only 99.1065% (for old poyout table the return is 99.9367%). But the gold symbol "certified over 100% return" is always shown over the payout table.

    what a dishonest casino!!!!!
     
  2. Oct 25, 2005
  3. Weedlayer

    Weedlayer Dormant account

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    Intercasino Double Bonus VP Downgrade

    Intercasino has slashed their payback on double bonus video poker, and calls it an upgrade!

    I just received an email from Intercasino entitled "true to life Video Poker."

    Intercasino has changed the paytable on DB VP so that it matches what you would find on the Las Vegas strip-which is actually lousy!

    Here's a quote from the email:

    The payback under the old paytable with expert computer-perfect play was .99937. Now it's .991. Does this sound like an upgrade to you?

    It's their casino, but c'mon Ryan I don't appreciate the snow job.
     
  4. Oct 25, 2005
  5. Simmo!

    Simmo! Moderator

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    Shame. It was a generous paytable to be fair. But it was the only game i play(ed) at Crypto casinos :( Ah well. Maybe it'll be good news for them, but I expect the competition are also quite happy about it.
     
  6. Oct 25, 2005
  7. TrickyNicky

    TrickyNicky Dormant account

    Location:
    united kingdom
    oh well have been playing this for a while, wont worry so much anymore :( .
    I am currently involved in a dispute with them - I played this morning (single hand @ $5 a spin), and it displayed the old paytable. I noticed after a while that it was only returning my bet ($5) for two pairs - whereas the paytable said it should have been $10. I went to the log, and had 12 hands where I recieved $5 rather than $10. I have emailed them, but they are insisting it is the new paytable that they are abiding to, they just hadn't updated it on the software. In my opinion they should definitely abide to whatever paytable is displayed! But I don't seem to be getting anywhere :eek2: .
    Any thoughts?
    TN
     
  8. Oct 25, 2005
  9. vedat

    vedat Dormant account

    Location:
    TURKEY
    why blame

    so whathappens if they changed the game play in another casino they give bonuses every month to every player and they dont give stupid bull shıt like you played roulette you cant cash out they process cash out fast so what if they changed one of their games to less odds just dont play that game
     
  10. Oct 25, 2005
  11. Casinomeister

    Casinomeister Forum Cheermeister Staff Member

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    Sorry, you feel miffed (upset), but I don't see this as cheating. Yes, it sucks that the payout table has changed - but that's just the way things go.
     
  12. Oct 25, 2005
  13. Simmo!

    Simmo! Moderator

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    England
    As long as you grabbed a screenshot of the paytable, they should honour it I'd have thought.
     
  14. Oct 25, 2005
  15. luanwang

    luanwang Dormant account

    Location:
    Swiss
    Changing Payout table is certainly not cheating. What I mean is the "Gold symbol" which show the "certified over 100% return" over the payout table because according to their new payout table the return is not over 100% any more!

    [​IMG]
     
  16. Oct 26, 2005
  17. paul1

    paul1 Dormant account

    That's not going to happen. And besides, they've been a very generous and user friendly casino for years. Obviously they have to defend themselves at some point. They've probably been getting hammered on the old double bonus. Yes, I'm like everyone else, I LOVED that old game. I guess all good things come to an end sometime.

    4200 for a royal, rest in peace. :( :( :(

    Btw, I don't know if anyone else said it yet, but I think optimal strategy for this new 9-7 double bonus is WAY different than jacks-or-better strategy. Some intricate strategy differences and I think penalty cards, the whole works. And all that for 99.1. lol no thanks
     
  18. Oct 26, 2005
  19. paul1

    paul1 Dormant account

    Yes, but if you got a straight, you got paid 25 instead of 20, and 35 for the flush, etc. Same thing happened to me. I wouldn't fight them on that if I were you. Just be happy that they are what they are, a very user friendly casino. Wish for them continued success, and hope other casinos would be like them. :)
     
  20. Oct 26, 2005
  21. paul1

    paul1 Dormant account



    My bet is that they'll change that wording. Be patient. Give Intercasino a break. They are one of the best! :thumbsup:
     
  22. Oct 26, 2005
  23. Casinomeister

    Casinomeister Forum Cheermeister Staff Member

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    Admin note: upgraded the thread title from "cheating again" to "me no like". I don't think they are cheating again.

    I'll contact them and bring this up to their attention though.
     
  24. Oct 26, 2005
  25. TrickyNicky

    TrickyNicky Dormant account

    Location:
    united kingdom
    I only played about 30 hands, hit one flush and nothing else that would have paid more on the paytable. They had not sent out any info saying the game had changed - and the original paytable was being displayed. I feel strongly here that they should abide by whatever was being displayed on the paytable.
    I did grab a screenshot, but they don't really seem interested, although apparently the manager (ryan) will be getting back to me as he is reviewing this.
    It's only $60 but a pretty important principle in my opinion. If they don't honour their own paytable, then they're as bad as some of the other casinos out there and I wont be touching them again :(
    TN
     
  26. Oct 26, 2005
  27. johnsteed

    johnsteed Ueber Meister

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    Mislead...

    Casinomeister

    Admin note: upgraded the thread title from "cheating again" to "me no like". I don't think they are cheating again.

    I'll contact them and bring this up to their attention though.


    Wow, before even reading this thread, I was half-expecting that The Incredible Hulk was making a post (the "me no like" alterration"). As I understand, there's a whole bunch of Marvel games added recently.

    Darn, after clicking on the icon, I was getting all excited to hear "HULK- SMASH!!!!!" followed by a cameo appearance of Stan Lee. Oh, well.
     
  28. Oct 26, 2005
  29. caruso

    caruso Banned User - repetitive violations of <a href="ht

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    EDIT: I posted a screenshot from what was apparently a non-upgraded version. The screenshot above is correct.
     
    Last edited: Oct 26, 2005
  30. Oct 26, 2005
  31. KasinoKing

    KasinoKing WebMeister & Slotaholic.. CAG MM PABnonaccred webmeister

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    Agreed! If the payout really was over 100% then I'm blooming glad they've changed it.
    The last thing I'd want is for one of the best casinos on the net to go bust! :eek:
     
  32. Oct 26, 2005
  33. caruso

    caruso Banned User - repetitive violations of <a href="ht

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    I thought this poster was having me on, having checked an old download version and got the old paytable. Then I read the other thread (locked), and it confirmed a load of email hocus-pocus from Intercasino about "new, improved" paytables now 1% downgraded.

    Intercasino are not cheating - they are LYING. Nice move for a software company listed on the various stock exchanges. And the "100% certified" stamp is a BLATANTLY fraudulent claim. This is not "me no like", this is "Intercasino are lying". They willfully downgraded the paytable - this wasn't an adjustment, it was a downgrade. But they conveniently forgot to remove the "100%" stamp, to keep the punters coming.

    This is a nice big, fat black mark against Inter's name. Lauding 1% downgrades as "improved" is the stuff of junk marketeering at it's worst, and puts me in mind of George Orwell's 1984, in which chocolate rations were cut, only to be announced as "increased chocolate rations".

    What a pretty parallel.

    What are you up to, Ryan?
     
    Last edited: Oct 26, 2005
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  34. Oct 26, 2005
  35. scrollock

    scrollock Senior Member

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    boro, uk
    if the payout use to be 99.9367 % then it wasn't over 100% before the changes, so the VP 100% claim is no more dishonest now than what it was before.
     
  36. Oct 26, 2005
  37. paul1

    paul1 Dormant account

    What about including the .1% comp?
     
  38. Oct 26, 2005
  39. scrollock

    scrollock Senior Member

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    ahh right, i take back what i said
     

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