Me no like InterCasino VP changes

[luanwang]

Just I've received an email from Intercasino, in that they are "pleased" to announce they altered their Payout tables for "Double bonus" video poker as following:
Hand Payout Payout Payout Payout Payout

1 coin 2 coins 3 coins 4 coins 5 coins
Royal flush 250 500 750 1000 4000
Four Aces 160 320 480 640 800
Four of 2, 3, or 4 80 160 240 320 400
Straight flush 50 100 150 200 250
Four of a Kind 50 100 150 200 250
Full house 9 18 27 36 45
Flush 7 14 21 28 35
Straight 5 10 15 20 25
Three of a kind 3 6 9 12 15
Two Pairs 1 2 3 4 5
Jacks or Better 1 2 3 4 5


According to the new payout tables the total return is only 99.1065% (for old poyout table the return is 99.9367%). But the gold symbol "certified over 100% return" is always shown over the payout table.

what a dishonest casino!!!!!

 

[Weedlayer]

Intercasino Double Bonus VP Downgrade

Intercasino has slashed their payback on double bonus video poker, and calls it an upgrade!

I just received an email from Intercasino entitled "true to life Video Poker."

Intercasino has changed the paytable on DB VP so that it matches what you would find on the Las Vegas strip-which is actually lousy!

Here's a quote from the email:

We are pleased to announce an upgrade in our Video Poker games. The games that include the Double Bonus feature, have had their payout tables altered to match that which is found in the land based casinos.

The payback under the old paytable with expert computer-perfect play was .99937. Now it's .991. Does this sound like an upgrade to you?

It's their casino, but c'mon Ryan I don't appreciate the snow job.

 

[Simmo!]

Shame. It was a generous paytable to be fair. But it was the only game i play(ed) at Crypto casinos Ah well. Maybe it'll be good news for them, but I expect the competition are also quite happy about it.

 

[TrickyNicky]

oh well have been playing this for a while, wont worry so much anymore .
I am currently involved in a dispute with them - I played this morning (single hand @ $5 a spin), and it displayed the old paytable. I noticed after a while that it was only returning my bet ($5) for two pairs - whereas the paytable said it should have been $10. I went to the log, and had 12 hands where I recieved $5 rather than $10. I have emailed them, but they are insisting it is the new paytable that they are abiding to, they just hadn't updated it on the software. In my opinion they should definitely abide to whatever paytable is displayed! But I don't seem to be getting anywhere .
Any thoughts?
TN

 

[vedat]

why blame

so whathappens if they changed the game play in another casino they give bonuses every month to every player and they dont give stupid bull shıt like you played roulette you cant cash out they process cash out fast so what if they changed one of their games to less odds just dont play that game

 

[The Dude]

Just I've received an email from Intercasino, in that they are "pleased" to announce they altered their Payout tables for "Double bonus" video poker as following:...what a dishonest casino!!!!!

Sorry, you feel miffed (upset), but I don't see this as cheating. Yes, it sucks that the payout table has changed - but that's just the way things go.

 

[Simmo!]

oh well have been playing this for a while, wont worry so much anymore .
I am currently involved in a dispute with them - I played this morning (single hand @ $5 a spin), and it displayed the old paytable. I noticed after a while that it was only returning my bet ($5) for two pairs - whereas the paytable said it should have been $10. I went to the log, and had 12 hands where I recieved $5 rather than $10. I have emailed them, but they are insisting it is the new paytable that they are abiding to, they just hadn't updated it on the software. In my opinion they should definitely abide to whatever paytable is displayed! But I don't seem to be getting anywhere .
Any thoughts?
TN

As long as you grabbed a screenshot of the paytable, they should honour it I'd have thought.

 

[luanwang]

Sorry, you feel miffed (upset), but I don't see this as cheating. Yes, it sucks that the payout table has changed - but that's just the way things go.

Changing Payout table is certainly not cheating. What I mean is the "Gold symbol" which show the "certified over 100% return" over the payout table because according to their new payout table the return is not over 100% any more!

 

[paul1]

As long as you grabbed a screenshot of the paytable, they should honour it I'd have thought.

That's not going to happen. And besides, they've been a very generous and user friendly casino for years. Obviously they have to defend themselves at some point. They've probably been getting hammered on the old double bonus. Yes, I'm like everyone else, I LOVED that old game. I guess all good things come to an end sometime.

4200 for a royal, rest in peace.

Btw, I don't know if anyone else said it yet, but I think optimal strategy for this new 9-7 double bonus is WAY different than jacks-or-better strategy. Some intricate strategy differences and I think penalty cards, the whole works. And all that for 99.1. lol no thanks

 

[paul1]

oh well have been playing this for a while, wont worry so much anymore .
I am currently involved in a dispute with them - I played this morning (single hand @ $5 a spin), and it displayed the old paytable. I noticed after a while that it was only returning my bet ($5) for two pairs - whereas the paytable said it should have been $10. I went to the log, and had 12 hands where I recieved $5 rather than $10. I have emailed them, but they are insisting it is the new paytable that they are abiding to, they just hadn't updated it on the software. In my opinion they should definitely abide to whatever paytable is displayed! But I don't seem to be getting anywhere .
Any thoughts?
TN

Yes, but if you got a straight, you got paid 25 instead of 20, and 35 for the flush, etc. Same thing happened to me. I wouldn't fight them on that if I were you. Just be happy that they are what they are, a very user friendly casino. Wish for them continued success, and hope other casinos would be like them.

 

[paul1]

Changing Payout table is certainly not cheating. What I mean is the "Gold symbol" which show the "certified over 100% return" over the payout table because according to their new payout table the return is not over 100% any more!

My bet is that they'll change that wording. Be patient. Give Intercasino a break. They are one of the best!

 

[The Dude]

Admin note: upgraded the thread title from "cheating again" to "me no like". I don't think they are cheating again.

I'll contact them and bring this up to their attention though.

 

[TrickyNicky]

I only played about 30 hands, hit one flush and nothing else that would have paid more on the paytable. They had not sent out any info saying the game had changed - and the original paytable was being displayed. I feel strongly here that they should abide by whatever was being displayed on the paytable.
I did grab a screenshot, but they don't really seem interested, although apparently the manager (ryan) will be getting back to me as he is reviewing this.
It's only $60 but a pretty important principle in my opinion. If they don't honour their own paytable, then they're as bad as some of the other casinos out there and I wont be touching them again
TN

 

[johnsteed]

Mislead...

Casinomeister

Admin note: upgraded the thread title from "cheating again" to "me no like". I don't think they are cheating again.

I'll contact them and bring this up to their attention though.

Wow, before even reading this thread, I was half-expecting that The Incredible Hulk was making a post (the "me no like" alterration"). As I understand, there's a whole bunch of Marvel games added recently.

Darn, after clicking on the icon, I was getting all excited to hear "HULK- SMASH!!!!!" followed by a cameo appearance of Stan Lee. Oh, well.

 

[caruso]

EDIT: I posted a screenshot from what was apparently a non-upgraded version. The screenshot above is correct.

 

[KasinoKing]

My bet is that they'll change that wording. Be patient. Give Intercasino a break. They are one of the best!

Agreed! If the payout really was over 100% then I'm blooming glad they've changed it.
The last thing I'd want is for one of the best casinos on the net to go bust!

 

[caruso]

I thought this poster was having me on, having checked an old download version and got the old paytable. Then I read the other thread (locked), and it confirmed a load of email hocus-pocus from Intercasino about "new, improved" paytables now 1% downgraded.

Intercasino are not cheating - they are LYING. Nice move for a software company listed on the various stock exchanges. And the "100% certified" stamp is a BLATANTLY fraudulent claim. This is not "me no like", this is "Intercasino are lying". They willfully downgraded the paytable - this wasn't an adjustment, it was a downgrade. But they conveniently forgot to remove the "100%" stamp, to keep the punters coming.

This is a nice big, fat black mark against Inter's name. Lauding 1% downgrades as "improved" is the stuff of junk marketeering at it's worst, and puts me in mind of George Orwell's 1984, in which chocolate rations were cut, only to be announced as "increased chocolate rations".

What a pretty parallel.

What are you up to, Ryan?

 

[scrollock]

Just I've received an email from Intercasino, in that they are "pleased" to announce they altered their Payout tables for "Double bonus" video poker as following:
Hand Payout Payout Payout Payout Payout

1 coin 2 coins 3 coins 4 coins 5 coins
Royal flush 250 500 750 1000 4000
Four Aces 160 320 480 640 800
Four of 2, 3, or 4 80 160 240 320 400
Straight flush 50 100 150 200 250
Four of a Kind 50 100 150 200 250
Full house 9 18 27 36 45
Flush 7 14 21 28 35
Straight 5 10 15 20 25
Three of a kind 3 6 9 12 15
Two Pairs 1 2 3 4 5
Jacks or Better 1 2 3 4 5


According to the new payout tables the total return is only 99.1065% (for old poyout table the return is 99.9367%). But the gold symbol "certified over 100% return" is always shown over the payout table.

what a dishonest casino!!!!!

if the payout use to be 99.9367 % then it wasn't over 100% before the changes, so the VP 100% claim is no more dishonest now than what it was before.

 

[paul1]

if the payout use to be 99.9367 % then it wasn't over 100% before the changes, so the VP 100% claim is no more dishonest now than what it was before.

What about including the .1% comp?

 

[scrollock]

What about including the .1% comp?

ahh right, i take back what i said

 

[The Dude]

Me no like Caruso's attitude

...Intercasino are not cheating - they are LYING. Nice move for a software company listed on the various stock exchanges. And the "100% certified" stamp is a BLATANTLY fraudulent claim. This is not "me no like", this is "Intercasino are lying". They willfully downgraded the paytable - this wasn't an adjustment, it was a downgrade. But they conveniently forgot to remove the "100%" stamp, to keep the punters coming.

This is a nice big, fat black mark against Inter's name. Lauding 1% downgrades as "improved" is the stuff of junk marketeering at it's worst, and puts me in mind of George Orwell's 1984, in which chocolate rations were cut, only to be announced as "increased chocolate rations".

What a pretty parallel.

What are you up to, Ryan?

This exactly the kind of post that turns off any casino rep from joining the discussion. Caruso has been warned over and over and over again about the language he chooses to use. That's it for now. Account suspended 30 days.

 

[gfkostas]

Even though carusos post is out of line it will be laughable for us to claim that Intercasino does not mislead their punters in this particular occasion.Be it a mistake or whatever as long as the "100% certified" stamp is there they do lie in a way.Now that this matter has been brought to the attention of the public the longer it stays there the less good it does for them.Am sure they will rectify this frivolous error soon.

 

[The Dude]

Even though carusos post is out of line it will be laughable for us to claim that Intercasino does not mislead their punters in this particular occasion.Be it a mistake or whatever as long as the "100% certified" stamp is there they do lie in a way.Now that this matter has been brought to the attention of the public the longer it stays there the less good it does for them.Am sure they will rectify this frivolous error soon.

True, but I'm concerned about Caruso's attitude toward this forum and its members. Posts like his inhibit casino operators and reps; they're not going to get involved in any discussion if they are immediately put on the defensive.

This forum isn't about jumping in, getting all emotional, and jabbing people at will. This is about solving problems and discussing issues while showing respect to fellow members.

People should remember that you need not verbalize everything that comes to mind.

 

[gfkostas]

True, but I'm concerned about Caruso's attitude toward this forum and its members. Posts like his inhibit casino operators and reps; they're not going to get involved in any discussion if they are immediately put on the defensive.

This forum isn't about jumping in, getting all emotional, and jabbing people at will. This is about solving problems and discussing issues while showing respect to fellow members.

People should remember that you need not verbalize everything that comes to mind.

Agreed

Having a conflict is quite different from disagreeing and caruso seems in my eyes to want to have a conflict with how he talks.I wouldn't necessarily make him or anyone wrong because of the way some people choose to express themselves however we have a forum etiquette here which we 'have' to abide by.If we dont like it we leg it or get suspended/banned.Nobody is wrong or right it's just the way things work around here.Quite simple

 

[Tdoggy]

ouch!!!

30 days for that! Wow and I thought my 2 day suspension was bad He was a bit harsh but is correct. It is wrong of them to do. And Inter is a top of the line casino. When will Ryan reply? This I wait to se....