MAY I GET YOUR HELP?

[babs7262]

This is what happened that only a few know about. As you know our vet told us King couldnt be cured because his infection was too bad. They refused to remove his teeth and told us that would be cruel. Since we just lost vinny 6 months ago neither of us go watch another loved one die. We brought him back to the shelter to be put down and told the girl what the vet said, infact 2 vets. His teeth were very healthy and it wasnt an option with both Vets.

I needed closure and was thinking about rayna missing king so i was gonna ask about another cat. Rich called and found out that King is not only alive but eating well again. They told us we couldnt have him back because we didnt pay to get his teeth removed. I told him we were willing but 2 vets said it wasnt right and wouldnt do it and the best thing to do was put him down. We trusted those vets. The thing is its also in their contract that all medical treatment would be done and we would adopt a healthy cat but King had this while in their care so if they would of removed his teeth before adoption none of this would of happened. We only wanted one cat but took 2 because thats whats best for them so why cant they make an exception and give him back. THat is in both cats' best interest and it wasnt our fault. We thought we were doing the right thing.

Can you please email: adopt@MLAR.org CAand ask them to return king to Barbara & Rich's family and that Ive been grieving for weeks. Cat knows this is true, shes been giving me support. If you could take just one minute to do this i would greatly appreciate it. Thank you

 

[babs7262]

King is in back

 

[LaurieJim]

return cat to that family Friday, October 3, 2008 8:27 PM
adopt@MLAR.org if you have any good in your hearts for animals you will return this beloved pet please to barbara and rich in penn, please as an animal lover myself i know they have been awesome cat lovers..........regards, laurie xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx deleted out personal info, hope this helps babs and rich...........laurie

 

[Rusty]

Please return this pet to its loving owners.

 

[RobWin]

This is what happened that only a few know about. As you know our vet told us King couldnt be cured because his infection was too bad. They refused to remove his teeth and told us that would be cruel. Since we just lost vinny 6 months ago neither of us go watch another loved one die. We brought him back to the shelter to be put down and told the girl what the vet said, infact 2 vets. His teeth were very healthy and it wasnt an option with both Vets.

I needed closure and was thinking about rayna missing king so i was gonna ask about another cat. Rich called and found out that King is not only alive but eating well again. They told us we couldnt have him back because we didnt pay to get his teeth removed. I told him we were willing but 2 vets said it wasnt right and wouldnt do it and the best thing to do was put him down. We trusted those vets. The thing is its also in their contract that all medical treatment would be done and we would adopt a healthy cat but King had this while in their care so if they would of removed his teeth before adoption none of this would of happened. We only wanted one cat but took 2 because thats whats best for them so why cant they make an exception and give him back. THat is in both cats' best interest and it wasnt our fault. We thought we were doing the right thing.

Can you please email: adopt@MLAR.org CAand ask them to return king to Barbara & Rich's family and that Ive been grieving for weeks. Cat knows this is true, shes been giving me support. If you could take just one minute to do this i would greatly appreciate it. Thank you

Babs, What am I missing here...I'm clearly confused ...I thought you had already lost this pet from this thread here and you had him put down because you said ..."and we had to make that dreadful decision"

Kingston woudlnt get better. The vet gave us small odds but we were positive and aggressive. Unfortunately he got very sick and in alot of pain today and we had to make that dreadful decision.

I will miss him so much and Im glad I atleast got to rescue him even for only 6months of tons of love and spoiling. I just hope Rayna will get over this too because they loved each other

Thread here...https://www.casinomeister.com/forums/threads/sadnews.26845/

Usually when you have to have a pet put down you also have to pay for the service...I've never found anyone that would do it for free ??

I'm even getting more confused now by your two seperate threads here...

 

[suzecat]

Oh Robbb! There you go getting all serious and practical again.............

 

[RobWin]

Oh Robbb! There you go getting all serious and practical again.............

LOL, sorry Suze and I don't mean any disrespect to Babs at all but I am really just plain and simply confused by her two seperate threads...

 

[babs7262]

K Rob( im confused too)

Rich and I thought King was put down. We didnt stay because we had to put Vinny down from cancer 6 months prior and I just couldnt do it. I trusted they would do it for us. I took King to 2 vets from June until 2 weeks ago spending hundreds of dollars to get him cured of this bad infection. I was told by the vets that his teeth were healthy and they refused to pull all of his teeth espcecially because he was declawed so that would leave him totally defensless. The vet told Rich and I we the best thing to do was to put him down.

We took him home and tried one more time with the antibiotics and they didnt work. He started to eat and then he would scream in pain. I couldnt take him being in pain and couldnt be selfish to let him stay in pain. I told Rich that I couldnt go through this again. He brought him back to the shelter because they have their own vet and told the lady there the whole story. She said she understood and we did the right thing.

I had rich call the shelter today to get closure because we didnt witness it and also to see if there was a companion for Rayna because she missed King. The lady at the shelter told him (without even a phone call or email) that the owner of the shelter had all of Kings teeth removed and hes recovering!! I was willing to do that if we HAD to but our two vets told us no, it was inhumane. When we dropped him off we thought they were gonna put him down. If they had called us we would have taken him back or paid for the surgery. Not only that....it states in their contract that ALL pets are checked and have their shots and are healthy. Well, I have proof that King was sick before we even adopted him and if they would taken care of him or atleast told us what was going on this wouldnt have happened in the first place.

I dont think it was fair for them not too tell us. Its not like he got sick and we just dropped him and fled. We tried for months and spent alot of money and I would of spent more if I knew he could be saved. THey should return him to us and Rayna. This is the first time in my life I ever went through anything like this with a shelter and Ive been to several for rescue in the past

 

[RobWin]

Thanks for clearing that up Babs, I do hope you can get him back...I didn't realize thought that shelters would put pets down or euthanize them for free though...I just called the vet a few months ago to get a price on having our cocker spaniel put down and they said it would cost us $137.00 but within two more days she passed away anyway...

So most shelters will euthanize pets for free ??

 

[babs7262]

THey didnt ask Rich for any money when he dropped him off to get put down. This shelter is different than others. When we adopted the two cats they gave us carriers and offered other stuff. Its connected with one of the best boarding places in the country (hickory springs). When we put Vinny down , it cost $80 for everything, I was surprised when Rich didnt leave a check with them too

 

[pevangel]

i emailed them babs i feel your pain hun i hope you get your king back i am praying for you and your family. i had a cat for 15 years and he died he was part of our family it broke our hearts.

pevangel

 

[Jasminebed]

Email sent

Babs, I emailed the shelter and sent a copy to you via your meister email.

I truly hope it helps. Please feel free to share it as a template if you want. It was from my heart.

 

[babs7262]

You wont believe this email I got from them. Whoever it was that said they wont take responsibility for adopting out a sick cat was right!! I doubt its because of letters because they said no before they even got any. I offered to pay for the oral surgery , my brother was going to help me. They are punishing those 2 cats for no good reason and its spiteful. Here is the email:

"You need to stop asking your friends to contact us. We would have considered giving the cat back, but what with the harassment we are experiencing now, any chance of returning King to your home is gone. Please do not contact us again. It is sad that you felt the need to return him when he needed you the most. You're telling us that we placed a sick cat in your care? How fortunate then that you no longer have to deal with his medical problems. This is a written warning."

 

[LaurieJim]

You wont believe this email I got from them. Whoever it was that said they wont take responsibility for adopting out a sick cat was right!! I doubt its because of letters because they said no before they even got any. I offered to pay for the oral surgery , my brother was going to help me. They are punishing those 2 cats for no good reason and its spiteful. Here is the email:

"You need to stop asking your friends to contact us. We would have considered giving the cat back, but what with the harassment we are experiencing now, any chance of returning King to your home is gone. Please do not contact us again. It is sad that you felt the need to return him when he needed you the most. You're telling us that we placed a sick cat in your care? How fortunate then that you no longer have to deal with his medical problems. This is a written warning."

what a bunch of mo fo's, keep after them babs, you want me to resend again or is there someone higher up the food chain than this idiot?

 

[babs7262]

I sent my letter along with their email to : NBC,ABC,CBS, judge judy (for my cat not money), today show and whoever else I think can help me. I have another plan but will not say on here. If and when I get him back Ill let you know if it worked

 

[Cat]

As you know Babs hun i've sent my email and you proof read it before i sent it, i've not had any kind of reply yet but as soon as i hear something you will be the first to know

I really hope King is returned to where he belongs to his loving home


Cat x

 

[RobWin]

I sent my letter along with their email to : NBC,ABC,CBS, judge judy (for my cat not money), today show and whoever else I think can help me. I have another plan but will not say on here. If and when I get him back Ill let you know if it worked

Are you thinking what I was thinking...that's just too scary Babs, but I think it would work too, probably would not do it on Monday though..that would almost seem too obvious...I would wait till Tuesday...good luck

 

[winbig]

Personally, I think the first 2 vets were correct. Even if it meant saving the life of the cat, removing his teeth to do so is inhumane, in my book. Cats don't have the option that us humans do. If we have to lose our teeth, at least we can get dentures. The same thing applies to de-clawing any animal. For whose benefit was it to remove his teeth? Certainly not the cats.

Was there any guarantee that King would have survived, even after removing his teeth? I seriously doubt it, and if there wasn't any guarantee, then they took the chance of making him suffer more.

If I were you, I'd call the SPCA and report this vet. This is clearly a breach of ethics, if not full blown cruelty to animals. If they're doing this for one cat, how many others are they doing it to? At the very least, they should be investigated.

 

[babs7262]

I totally agree WinBig,

Im doing what I can and Ill write SPCA

 

[babs7262]

K

I think we should stop the emails just for now. I didnt realize how many of you would send them. I appreciate it so very much. At this point it might make things worse. Ill let you know what happens. Rich is ready to go up there now

 

[pevangel]

im praying for you babs.

pevangel

 

[babs7262]

UPDATE

I sent Rich to the shelter and told him to explain everything and I sent another nicer email. I dont know what some of you wrote but Rich said even though he wasnt there they got Bill on the phone with Rich while Rich was there.

Bill from the shelter said that people are now calling and some department for animals are going to the shelter for inspection!!! This is turning out alot bigger than I thought . Bill made an appt to see Rich at 430pm to talk in person and to give Bill a chance to read my email.

I have a feeeling they will have no choice but to give my king back to me. They are now realizing I am stopping at nothing to get him back and the bad press wont be worth it. You...I dont want to ruin the guys' business or give him bad press but that was just plain wrong. They never even gave me a chance or a phone call. I just want those animals happy and I want King back home. I dont want you guys to think im going overboard but sometimes you have to be aggressive with these organizations.

Ill let you know more later on.

 

[bernynhel]

Did you try to get the 2 vets to deposition their opinions so that you may present them to the shelter? I don't see how they'd have a leg to stand on if that were to be done.

If this doesnt pan out Babs let me know cuz if they think they had been harassed before they have no idea. I have the 100 top catlovers sites in a folder and i have vast experience in publicizing what a-holes people can be. My cat was killed by a massive OD of ACE (Acepromazone - tranquilizer cuz Kitty completely flips out n a car/cat carrier and howls with agony the whole time and I was taking him to Palm springs for a week at holidays/new year, He died on New Years after 36 hours of agony.) by my vet who negligently prescribed a dose large enough for a 93 pound dog cuz when he "glanced" at the chart saw the number "93" - kitty's temp when brought in for anemia previously - and assumed that "93" was the weight in lbs not bothering to see if a cat or dog or what!) and after two days the vet called me begging me to work something out. This is a big vet clinic in West Los Angeles in business 15 years and they'd have done anything to get me off their backs. As it was they wrote a check on the spot for the $1,500 ER bill and I have free vet care for any cat for life plus they implemented entirely new criteria for double checking charts with vet + 1 tech required to sign off on species, sex, age and weight of every cat and dog before any treatment or Rx can be prescribed and even posted a huge sign in the lobby with new procedure w explanation as why the tragedy with my cat made it necessary and dedicated in memorium to my cat complete with Kitty's photo and everything. I know you put hiatus on emails but you just say the word and they will be sorry they ever f'd with you.

 

[babs7262]

Thanks Bern (((((huG)))) I am truly sorry for your loss. That must of been aweful to see that

I got some legal advice from a FEMA person. THey ARE indeed in violation of title 7.164 sect2 of full disclosure of medical records. I have a leg to stand on now. I didnt receive any f or king or rayna.

The Plan: Rich has appt at 4pm. IF they say no: we will tell him his violations as well as sue him in small claims court as well as go t city hall and get regulations for his business. We will subpeona the vet (that part i dont like because shes a nice person) to testify that her medical opinion was that King's infection started before adoption, which will then add another charge to this shelter.

IF we do get king back: after in our arms and in a safe place, we will ask for BOTH rayna and Kingstons' medical records (full disclosure) as well as still go to city hall and ask for an informal conference under PA code 35.9 for not giving it to us in the first place.

Bern, I will let you know if we dont have King by 5pm. I got SSD without a lawyer and I can do this without a lawyer

 

[patrina]

Good Luck to you Babs!! I am saying a prayer. And hey Bern sorry for your loss, I have a siamese who is just like my child, I dont think some people realize that our pets are like our children and what they are doing to Babs is so unethical. And Bern, I want you on my side too!!
Patrina