Max win potential on BTG slots?

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Hi - does anyone know if its been stated anywhere what the max win potential for BTG slots are - I read somewhere Extra Chill is 20,000x - are the others the same?
 

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Hi - does anyone know if its been stated anywhere what the max win potential for BTG slots are - I read somewhere Extra Chill is 20,000x - are the others the same?

The biggest documented win on Bonanza is 14,000x
I'm sure that it is theoretically possible to get more than that, but it would be extremely unlikely.
 

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Hi - does anyone know if its been stated anywhere what the max win potential for BTG slots are - I read somewhere Extra Chill is 20,000x - are the others the same?

You can find info in each game's thread.

In short, Bonanza and Extra Chilli have (in theory) unlimited potential.
All Megaways slots can pay more than 15,000x, but the chance for anything higher than 500x is very low. The chance for anything higher than 1000x is extremely low.
And is almost impossible to hit anything over 5000x, I mean chances are like winning the lotary 3 times in a year. :p
 

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Starquest and QOR must be capable of monstrous though seen a video the guy got 2,600 for 9s(60p bet) full screen. If it had been something better....surely talking 18-20grand maybe more??
 

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Bonanza's in the millions, it has an unlimited multiplier. So sky's the limit......
 

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Queen of Riches - As far as I know (and I'm only going by something that trancemonkey said once, per one of his reliable sources), the max win is 117,649x (for a full screen of Qs - 117,649 ways ie 42 Qs on screen). I have seen two wins of over 19,000x.

Bonanza - who knows what the limit is? The biggest win we know of is 14,000x. And as far as I can recall, the highest multiplier that a CM member has achieved is 39x.
I have seen a couple of base game screenshots where the win was over 3,000x.

Starquest - biggest win I can recall seeing is around 3400x. I have absolutely no idea what the max win is.

DHV -

Base game - best I've seen is over 7000x, but I think the BTG rep himself said the base game is capable of delivering a win as high as 16,000x.
High Voltage FS - it can arguably go north of 25,000x (best I have seen is 16,500x).
Gates of Hell - it could (in theory) pay over 25,000x - but you need to obtain max wilds on screen and then 6OAK the skulls on each of the last 4 spins of the feature with those max wilds in place.
I have only ever seen one screenshot of someone achieving the max wilds. So uhm....yeah, good luck with that one.
For the record, that one max wilds feature delivered a win of over 13,000x. By far, that is the best win I've ever seen from GOH. Next best is probably under 6,000x.

Extra Chilli - presumeably it can match what Bonanza is capable of, but you probably have to jump through a few gambling hoops
for there to be any chance of it happening.

Dragon Born - probably capable of going north of 3000x, but tbh I can't ever recall seeing a win bigger than 500x.

Gold - whatever

Temple Quest Infinity - double whatever

Book Of Gods (yet to be released) - 4860x for full screen of purple god. But it can only be achieved during the feature. Maximum base game win is 486x I think?
 

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You can find info in each game's thread.

In short, Bonanza and Extra Chilli have (in theory) unlimited potential.
All Megaways slots can pay more than 15,000x, but the chance for anything higher than 500x is very low. The chance for anything higher than 1000x is extremely low.
And is almost impossible to hit anything over 5000x, I mean chances are like winning the lotary 3 times in a year. :p

And I am still counting my blessings for this win the other week! Oh, I have never won anything of significance on the lottery .....

5,156x

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@mcgameboy Given the great data you gave us could I hijack the thread and ask you if you have any knowledge of actual wins on Playtech slots like Great Blue / Irish Luck / Penguin Vacation since they had a maximum potential win of 150,000x (or so I heard :p). Similarly their slot Secrets of the Amazon could potentially pay 125,000x bet iirc. Or perhaps do you know of any wins happening that at least approach the max potential of some new high variance games such as Pink Elephants (8200x) or Falcon Huntress (10050x) or any other you might know. Always have been curious about these things, played a lot of Playtech a few years ago and while their potential was astronomical some of these new games also seem to have a potential that at the very least is closer to 10000x than it is to 5000x :)

EDIT: Amazing hit Richy, congrats :thumbsup: I admit I almost never take that feature as I generally hate features that have such a low amount of initial spins, and especially watching dunover's videos I have seen that this game can go first 3 or 4 of them without doing more than one or two wilds and then you're dead. Have been meaning to give it a go a few times though and that hit renewed my interest :laugh:
 
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Have to admit, these 'potential' max payouts sound great, but realistically it is best to consider what has and will be paid out. Then again, I suppose the thrill factor is knowing it could pay out huge just once in a while.

What are the chances the game has an inbuilt restriction to entice the casino operators to run with the game and not risk a huge loss if it did decide to cough up the max payout?
 

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Have to admit, these 'potential' max payouts sound great, but realistically it is best to consider what has and will be paid out. Then again, I suppose the thrill factor is knowing it could pay out huge just once in a while.

What are the chances the game has an inbuilt restriction to entice the casino operators to run with the game and not risk a huge loss if it did decide to cough up the max payout?

I think it is all about the odds of getting that biggest win possible. If the odds of hitting it are neigh on impossible (which they mostly are) a casino will be more than happy to host the game. What are the chances after all?
 

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Thanks for great and detailed info mate! :thumbsup:

Starquest - I can help you on this one. In Oct 2016, an Indonesian player hit a 10,100x bet on Starquest with a $40 bet at Videoslots. It was even advertised on their news page, hence, it must be true. Here's the link:
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Queen of Riches - As far as I know (and I'm only going by something that trancemonkey said once, per one of his reliable sources), the max win is 117,649x (for a full screen of Qs - 117,649 ways ie 42 Qs on screen). I have seen two wins of over 19,000x.

Bonanza - who knows what the limit is? The biggest win we know of is 14,000x. And as far as I can recall, the highest multiplier that a CM member has achieved is 39x.
I have seen a couple of base game screenshots where the win was over 3,000x.

Starquest - biggest win I can recall seeing is around 3400x. I have absolutely no idea what the max win is.

DHV -

Base game - best I've seen is over 7000x, but I think the BTG rep himself said the base game is capable of delivering a win as high as 16,000x.
High Voltage FS - it can arguably go north of 25,000x (best I have seen is 16,500x).
Gates of Hell - it could (in theory) pay over 25,000x - but you need to obtain max wilds on screen and then 6OAK the skulls on each of the last 4 spins of the feature with those max wilds in place.
I have only ever seen one screenshot of someone achieving the max wilds. So uhm....yeah, good luck with that one.
For the record, that one max wilds feature delivered a win of over 13,000x. By far, that is the best win I've ever seen from GOH. Next best is probably under 6,000x.

Extra Chilli - presumeably it can match what Bonanza is capable of, but you probably have to jump through a few gambling hoops
for there to be any chance of it happening.

Dragon Born - probably capable of going north of 3000x, but tbh I can't ever recall seeing a win bigger than 500x.

Gold - whatever

Temple Quest Infinity - double whatever

Book Of Gods (yet to be released) - 4860x for full screen of purple god. But it can only be achieved during the feature. Maximum base game win is 486x I think?
 

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Max wins are theoretical and assuming 5 or 6 random reel stops and reel strips of 150 symbols or more the permutations run into the billions. With modern video slots it's simple to void any given win value in the programme so the RNG cannot generate that result or have a simple elimination of a value =/> than xxxxx times bet. This would protect the casinos from freak results which would also skew the RTP over all casinos excessively. Imagine 192 ways of diamonds dropping in on Bonanza with full ways in the free spins on a 30x multiplier! 288,000 x bet and the player was on £4, you're talking a casino debt in excess of £1m! Now yes, many have maximum pay out limits but for a player to drop that bastard then find they get only 50 or 100k would really not do developers or casinos any good, would it?
We did work out that on MG's 'Cashapillar' a full screen of wilds would be about 1.7bn/1 when we saw the reel maps years back. And that is a more reasonable 20k x bet or whatever it was.

I mean even the 500X on the dreadful St*rb*rst appears to be pie-in-the-sky, so realistically these pays are nothing more than theoretical to give the player belief or hope although you can still rarely hit super pays far, far lower than these outrageous figures as we have seen on DoA or BTG games.
 

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Max wins are theoretical and assuming 5 or 6 random reel stops and reel strips of 150 symbols or more the permutations run into the billions. With modern video slots it's simple to void any given win value in the programme so the RNG cannot generate that result or have a simple elimination of a value =/> than xxxxx times bet. This would protect the casinos from freak results which would also skew the RTP over all casinos excessively.

I take it these are the "inhibitors" I've been banging on about for years :oops:
 

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Also casinos have payout limits and win limits, like this on 32Red

5. The maximum payout for any one 24-hour period for any one customer is £120,000 in the casino and £100,000 on the casino network. The daily maximum payout in the casino excludes winnings on 32Red's progressive casino games, payouts of which are governed by the Jackpot amount.
 

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EDIT: Amazing hit Richy, congrats :thumbsup: I admit I almost never take that feature as I generally hate features that have such a low amount of initial spins, and especially watching dunover's videos I have seen that this game can go first 3 or 4 of them without doing more than one or two wilds and then you're dead. Have been meaning to give it a go a few times though and that hit renewed my interest :laugh:

I was a bit gobsmacked at how well it was paying, even though none of the latter spins contained skulls or the bigger paying symbols and not that many had 6 OAK. Now, if there was a skull on reel one and one or two on reel 6 on my last spin, the payout would have been massive. As soon as I started getting the 3 extra spins for filling a reel with wilds, it dawned on me that the end result could be a big one. It was only on the 7th spin of the initial 7 spins that I got a stack of wilds for the 3 extra spins, then it all came together as the other reels already had wilds in them.

As always, a lovely game when you catch it just right, but a bugger when it doesn't want to play or pay!

So, in fairness if you do complete reels 2 to 4 with wilds, the last 3 spins would be 4x4x4x4 which doesn't sound much, but each symbol on reel 1 being multiplied by 256 times, that is some payout!

I think it is a game where you don't necessarily buy into it for the enjoyment factor, you are buying into the dream of a big win from it.
 

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To be honest that last sentence would fit more with Bonanza for me as I feel playing it is a bit of a chore and the vision of a huge hit far and away :D Danger High Voltage I enjoy, the two features are fun in concept and can both pay massively while x6 Wilds spice things up in the base game (I actually got three of them some time ago for a nice 560x win so thare's that). But indeed there is always that notion of winning that absolutely mad hit, something like those 14,000x+ wins we seen, that is absent from many even highest variance slots.
 

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@mcgameboy Given the great data you gave us could I hijack the thread and ask you if you have any knowledge of actual wins on Playtech slots like Great Blue / Irish Luck / Penguin Vacation since they had a maximum potential win of 150,000x (or so I heard :p). Similarly their slot Secrets of the Amazon could potentially pay 125,000x bet iirc. Or perhaps do you know of any wins happening that at least approach the max potential of some new high variance games such as Pink Elephants (8200x) or Falcon Huntress (10050x) or any other you might know. Always have been curious about these things, played a lot of Playtech a few years ago and while their potential was astronomical some of these new games also seem to have a potential that at the very least is closer to 10000x than it is to 5000x :)

EDIT: Amazing hit Richy, congrats :thumbsup: I admit I almost never take that feature as I generally hate features that have such a low amount of initial spins, and especially watching dunover's videos I have seen that this game can go first 3 or 4 of them without doing more than one or two wilds and then you're dead. Have been meaning to give it a go a few times though and that hit renewed my interest :laugh:

Hi GG, I do remember a very small handful of really big wins posted here at CM on GB, IL and PV. Despite that max win potential of 150,000x, getting even 1000x on those three games is bloody difficult, if the screenie threads here are anything to go by. But, after a bit of serious digging, I have managed to locate them....

Irish Luck
Mega Wins - Min 3000x Bet

Great Blue
Hyper-Wins Screenshots (10,000x Stake Plus)

Penguin Vacation
Show me the Money Screenshots (Min 1000xBet)

Penguin Vacation
Show me the Money Screenshots (Min 1000xBet)

Irish Luck
Show me the Money Screenshots (Min 1000xBet)

Great Blue
Show me the Money Screenshots (Min 1000xBet)

Just look at the dates those screenies were posted. I guess it shows just how much these three slots have gone out of fashion/become quite the afterthought.
I haven't seen anything big on Secrets Of The Amazon, mainly because I didn't know the game even existed haha. :oops:
I haven't seen anything over 1,000x on Pink Elephants or Falcon Huntress either.
But I do know 2 CM members who have full screened the tigers on Jungle Spirit (I was one of them :) ) for 7680x.

I can also remember at least 2 people who have done a 5-reel WD (12,150x bet) on IR (Patriot66 and me_and_ed).
Likewise with Sofia's running wilds on Playboy (8100x for full screen of wilds - here is one of them.....)

Show me the Money Screenshots (Min 1000xBet)

I don't think anybody has hit 5 wild reels on Santa's Wild Ride, Avalon 2, Finer Reels or GOT.
But quite a few have full screened the wilds on Jurassic Park's Triceratops feature (thebigs and McMangos are two people that immediately spring to mind)
And I've seen a post of over 10,000x on Netent's Flowers, where the max win is 15,000x for a full screen of wilds.

And oh yeah, I'm pretty sure I saw some spawny twat from near Wolvahramptin who once got a 5-reel Shitstorm. I'll be damned if I can remember his name though :p
Goatie, Mr. D - any ideas? help me out here guys....


As for your thoughts on taking the Gates feature on DHV, well it seems to be the "trendy pick" with the streamers, despite the lack of spins and its "over before it really even started" nature. Make of that what you will. All I know is, I've had quite a few High Voltage FS features that have paid less than 1x bet. I've never had that happen on the Gates feature to me, even when I managed to land ZERO wilds during it. At the same time though, it's damn hard to ignore that re-trigger potential on the High Voltage feature. The agony of choice eh?
 

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Amazing post, thanks :thumbsup: Some great pictures there, especially that Playboy win got my imagination going as I keep grinding away on this slot to this day, had a 2100x in Sophia feature early in my gaming days and what do you know, never got close to that in terms of "x bet", and of course it was a smallest stake in a crappiest possible currency which made the bet something like 0,07€.

I also played Flowers quite a lot but never actually put it in one bag with the highest variance games, though indeed a full screen of wilds would pay 15,000x bet, not sure why I was surprised by that as I must've checked it at some point. Maybe it's because I always felt some of these Netent games don't really feel as high variance as they actually are, I mean Pink Elephants has not much more than half the potential of Flowers and yet it can be so tight it's unbelievable.

Perhaps it's the case of variance vs volatility, in which case I'd say Flowers might be higher variance but is also less volatile. Anyway, that's just my musings, off to hit one of those hyper wins! :D
 
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