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Maple casino - Gangster terms?

Discussion in 'Online Casinos' started by trick, Aug 3, 2005.

    Aug 3, 2005
  1. trick

    trick Dormant account

    I looked at the terms for Maple casino and found this bit (my bold):

    "If you are found to be cheating or attempting to defraud the Game, or if you make untrue and/or malicious comments with regard to Maple Casino's operation, Maple Casino reserves the right to publicize your actions together with your identity and e-mail address, as well as to circulate this information to other casinos, banks, credit card companies, and appropriate agencies."

    Is this not like saying "If you are not happy with us, keep your mouth shut or we will drag you through the mud with every casino, bank, credit card company, and appropriate agency we can find"?

    It's been a while since I last read any T&Cs but is this really what we are comming to? Attempts to gag customers via the T&C?
     
  2. Aug 4, 2005
  3. jetset

    jetset Ueber Meister CAG

    Occupation:
    Senior Partner, InfoPowa News Service
    Location:
    Earth
    Whoa! That would seem to my mind to raise some very serious privacy issues. I'm going to draw eCOGRA's attention to this.
     
  4. Aug 4, 2005
  5. tim5ny

    tim5ny Quit Gambling

    Sounds like they got Tony Soprano to write the t+c's. "You keep your mouth shut!.. or you'll be sleeping with the fishes!"
     
  6. Aug 4, 2005
  7. Vesuvio

    Vesuvio Dormant account

    Location:
    UK
    VPL do have some stunning terms and conditions at present. If you took them seriously they'd probably belong on the not-recommended list. This is one of the most blatant catch-all we-can-do-whatever-we-like terms I've seen:

     
  8. Aug 4, 2005
  9. nafanny29

    nafanny29 Dormant account

    Occupation:
    financail adviser
    Location:
    London, England
    Online gaming is such fun these days. Never mind winning or losing its all about checking the T&Cs with a fine tooth comb to see if you will actually get paid if lightning strikes LOL
     
  10. Aug 4, 2005
  11. suzecat

    suzecat Dormant account CAG MM webmeister

    Occupation:
    Retired
    Location:
    California
    Makes you wonder..........

    Makes you wonder what Maple Casino has done/is doing to customers that would make them want to post on message boards. Does Maple need to learn customer service 101 where customers are treated fairly and have no reason to vent/post the boards? If I ever play there I'll be sure to put my Ouzi on my lap before I login.
     
  12. Aug 4, 2005
  13. dominique

    dominique Dormant account

    Occupation:
    webmistress
    Location:
    The Boonies
    I suppose putting them on a Blacklist and inviting others to exchange links with that Blacklist page to further propagate the info on the search engines won't make them happy - but the listing is surely not untrue or malicious!

    I will put the link - Bryan, if that is out of order please just nuke it.


    You must register/login in order to see the link.
     
  14. Aug 4, 2005
  15. Sodax77

    Sodax77 Dormant account

    Occupation:
    Human Being
    Location:
    EU|FI
    Live Chat (part of)

    When i ask, why it is necessary:

    Maple Casino: The legal department have come up with this, and this is due to player abuse, we have to, as any other company , have advisory warnings against player abuse.
    Maple Casino: this is to prevent people from abusing the maple casino name unfairly.

    When i ask about privacy issue:
    Maple Casino: you would have to contact our legal team ro discuss the fine print and legal ramifications with them.
     
  16. Aug 4, 2005
  17. chucho

    chucho Bonus Pimp

    Maple Hood Casino. That shit is straight up gangster, which should not shock anyone considering that BThug is the owner/operator.
     
  18. Aug 4, 2005
  19. jamiester

    jamiester Dormant account

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    Overnight dispatcher
    Location:
    Hampshire County, MA
    what?

    BThug? Is that as in bethug of the Hood 3000 system? The guy from the OPU? Or am I confusing two people. I would have trouble believing he was running a casino.
     
  20. Aug 4, 2005
  21. jetset

    jetset Ueber Meister CAG

    Occupation:
    Senior Partner, InfoPowa News Service
    Location:
    Earth
    Those responses to Sodax's questions are a cop-out plain and simple. If the management was at all professional and ethical it would veto any suggestions from lawyers that this sort of image-damaging crap be placed on the site.

    I don't buy the lawyer story - this is an over-zealous management trying to intimidate anyone who might have a bad experience with Maple in my opinion.

    Casinos do have a tough time with the myriad scams and fraudsters out there, but that does not justify this sort of threat to invade privacy.

    The guys at Maple and its sisters know better than this...and they are capable of far better than this. They need to take another look at these T&Cs.
     
  22. Aug 4, 2005
  23. Casinomeister

    Casinomeister Forum Cheermeister Staff Member

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    What a thing to wake up to in the morning. I don't see how this term is warranted. It's an excellent casino that has a damn good reputation, and I wouldn't see how anyone over there would be worried about malicious postings. And the player privacy thing is a bit too much. This is a term that some of the cheesy Central American casinos have implemented. I've requested that they remove this term. It's eally unneccessary.

    Can't find this one. I know we had a discussion earlier that there was term that stated further that winnings would not be paid, but this was changed. Winnings would be paid, but the player would probably not get any more promos.
     
  24. Aug 4, 2005
  25. jetset

    jetset Ueber Meister CAG

    Occupation:
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    Location:
    Earth
    BTW, I believe they'll be getting a call from the CEO of eCOGRA today, too.
     
  26. Aug 4, 2005
  27. Vesuvio

    Vesuvio Dormant account

    Location:
    UK
    It's here: You must register/login in order to see the link. I think you're right, though, they're now saying that they will pay the current cash-in in full, so there's not really an issue with it anymore (I just assumed it hadn't changed). No-one disputes the right of casinos to exclude players from further play, however doubtful the reasons. Sorry for distracting the discussion from the gangster terms :D
     
  28. Aug 4, 2005
  29. elscrabinda

    elscrabinda Experienced Member PABnorogue PABnoaccred

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    Location:
    Oxford
    I loved dominique's blacklist! Could almost have been taken directly from Bryan's recommended list!

    Nothing quite like an affiliate scorned :)
     
  30. Aug 4, 2005
  31. Casinomeister

    Casinomeister Forum Cheermeister Staff Member

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    I've already been in contact with the casino, and changes are being made.
     
  32. Aug 4, 2005
  33. KasinoKing

    KasinoKing WebMeister & Slotaholic.. CAG MM PABnonaccred webmeister

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    Bexhill on sea, England
    :notworthy Just remember - with great power comes great responsibility! ;)
     
  34. Aug 4, 2005
  35. philipfromparis

    philipfromparis Dormant account

    Location:
    Paris, France
    I wonder why in this list we can find numerous casinos that are blacklisted on your website Dominique and that are reputable for Bryan ? Don't you have somehow the same feelings and points of view towards one place or another ? And then, who am i to believe when gambling ? :)

    Philipfromparis
     
  36. Aug 4, 2005
  37. Casinomeister

    Casinomeister Forum Cheermeister Staff Member

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    Now where have I heard that before?

    If you read this thread, you'll understand Dom's (and a few other's) frustration.
    http://www.casinomeister.com/forums/showthread.php?t=8913

    Personally, I think it's a bit premature to go around blacklisting casinos because this is an ongoing complex situation.
     
  38. Aug 4, 2005
  39. suzecat

    suzecat Dormant account CAG MM webmeister

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    Retired
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    California
    Choke, Shock

    CM??????? Any proof to this? Disagree/agree? :confused:
     

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