Major game lay out change NO change line option

spintee

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Sorry if this has been bought up, Could not find a thread, I see netent has had some big changes, Not only have the lay out changed on slots,

On starburst yesterday on a site I could not change lines on starburst to get rid of a few pence, I gave up looking for a game after, This was on slotmagic

Now just playing a casino heroes and now piggy riches is at it, 1st screen shot is from there and the second from Guts, Guts look normal, I was whaching a stream the other day and somebody mentioned that Gonzo looked different also

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jep i notice also, most casinos have Wild Turkey i usually use that one to clear bonuses, but slotsmagic doesnt have it
so i used doa, the prolem is they dont allow bonus on doa so i just oped i wouldnt it anything :)
you cant manually foreit bonus there guess there is always support :)
weird it happening allover gaming proviers now ? what is it lazyness to add the change line button :)
 

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I also noticed it the other day at drueckglueck.com

Its very bad of them to limit the players choice! :axeman:
 

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And that's another choice taken away from the player. This benefits us how??

In between game providers' limiting choices and the UKGC's nannying don't be surprised if in ten years' time players get to select from a total of twenty games, with a default bet size of £2 that can't be altered.

Think of it as a FOBT, but in video slot form :mad::eek:
 

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The biggest problem here is that it removes the ability of the player to completely zero a balance after a bonus has been used. The failure to completely zero out has in the past caused all sorts of problems for players, including carry over of WR to the next deposit, and in rare cases the casino claiming that a future win is void due to the earlier failure to completely zero a balance.

The tried and tested method has always been to find a slot that allows a coin value of 0.01, and select just the number of lines needed to get rid of the last few pennies.

The fact that in some cases the ONLY slot still to allow this is a prohibited game is sure to cause all sorts of issues, as it would be a breach of the terms to zero the balance this way, which some less than ethical casinos will use to void the next win even though it's from a fresh deposit into a zero balance.

I have also noticed that Microgaming at least seem to be a fan of "ways" rather than lines, and the minimum bet on such slots is 0.30. However, I use Agent Jane Blonde to neatly dispose of the spare pennies in Microgaming casinos, as it still has selectable lines and a 0.01 coin value. This could also be an option for multi provider casinos even if many games have had line selection removed I doubt they can do this to the Microgaming Quickfire games as MGS, unlike others, don't allow operators to mess about with the game mechanics themselves, at least not yet - although this has now been implemented for Autoplay thanks to the UKGC.
 

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Yes VWM, Like the viking said he used DOA to spend out that was not allowed, now if you get a funny casino or even a half decent casino at that matter, Even with a fresh deposit they can hit you where it hurts and say you used bonus on not allowed games etc in the past,

I can see it now, Due to the fact in previous bonus's we see you played not allowed games, We think you are exploiting the bonus system so we are returning your deposit, :eek:

I use thundersturck or ladies night to burn of my last few pennys, BUT there is a majour problem there, Casino are now sneaking theses games in the excluded list,

Conspiracy ? You be dam lucky to be able to spend out that last few pennys now unless its going to come back to haunt you
 

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Yes VWM, Like the viking said he used DOA to spend out that was not allowed, now if you get a funny casino or even a half decent casino at that matter, Even with a fresh deposit they can hit you where it hurts and say you used bonus on not allowed games etc in the past,

I can see it now, Due to the fact in previous bonus's we see you played not allowed games, We think you are exploiting the bonus system so we are returning your deposit, :eek:

I use thundersturck or ladies night to burn of my last few pennys, BUT there is a majour problem there, Casino are now sneaking theses games in the excluded list,

Conspiracy ? You be dam lucky to be able to spend out that last few pennys now unless its going to come back to haunt you

Us men have always been excluded from Ladies Night:)


Now, could this be a deliberate ploy by some casinos to prevent us from burning off our last few pennies so that they can shaft us with wager carry over if we claim back to back bonuses, or give them a get out clause should they not want to pay a big win, but where the player habitually burns off the last pennies on an excluded game because ONLY the excluded games allow the exact microbets required.
 

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Us men have always been excluded from Ladies Night:)


Now, could this be a deliberate ploy by some casinos to prevent us from burning off our last few pennies so that they can shaft us with wager carry over if we claim back to back bonuses, or give them a get out clause should they not want to pay a big win, but where the player habitually burns off the last pennies on an excluded game because ONLY the excluded games allow the exact microbets required.

Thats exact my thoughts, I wondered why casino was banning games such thunderstruck to excluded games list? & now changing lines on slots, It all adds up to me like they knew what was coming, Alot of sites do state bonus funds will be cleared after x amounts of days but thats some BS, I been on sites months later and still had a bonus sitting there,Albeit from a few quid down to a few pence, Even if the bonus is wiped clean it does not mean the bonus requirement will be wiped,

I gave up looking for a slot to clear the penny's of the other day, There is a few sites that you can manually cancel the bonus, Or wait 6 hrs for live chat to figure out how to do it after being told its not possible,

Better still, Auto clear a bonus after hitting -50p as long as no other games are running (bonus heldup) I am sure Coral does this,

If its not a clause for a casino to burn us and its just a big coincidence than I bet it soon will become a clause,

Better still why are they doing this? Is it the game provider or the casino choice? Why are they changing the games lay out?

Star burst was one of the biggest playing games but only due to the free spins hand out and balance clearer, It will soon become extinct once there is no more penny lines
 

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I'm pretty sure this has been done to try and prevent you zeroing out your balance.

Had the same issue myself the other day and managed to find a machine that a.) Allows line bets to be reduced b.) Is not excluded from the bonus. Follow the yellow brick road :)
 

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So, which game am I supposed to clear my balance on now? :rolleyes:

I to wonder what the reason for this update is.
 

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So, which game am I supposed to clear my balance on now? :rolleyes:

I to wonder what the reason for this update is.

God knows, But I will say one thing, If its not broke than do not try and fix it,

Have netent got nothing better to do than mess around with perfectly working games? Instead of bringing out shit games and clones,

Do something right and bring out some new good games
 

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God knows, But I will say one thing, If its not broke than do not try and fix it,

Have netent got nothing better to do than mess around with perfectly working games? Instead of bringing out shit games and clones,

Do something right and bring out some new good games

In a word mate.....no.

I had the same problem trying to "kill" a bonus at Maria Casino last week. Loaded up Starburst to play my one dead spin. And found I could only play max lines.
Spent about 20 minutes trying to find one poxy game to zero my balance. Couldn't use DOA because it's on the banned list when playing with bonus funds. Not only that, because of the type of bonus it was, I could only use a Netent game as well. Anytime I loaded a game not made by NetEnt, my balance showed up as zero.

In the end, I think Reel Steel was the game that enabled me to kill my bonus.
 

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The reason for the update on the piggy riches game that Spintee has posted is an upgrade to html5 from Flash. This will happen with all of the Netent games over the course of the next months.

Why they have in their wisdom decided not to give us the option to amend the number of play lines, I am not sure.

Maybe a casino representative that reads this topic can ask the question off Netent and perhaps complain to them on our behalf (at the end of the day the casino is the direct customer off Netent).
 

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In a word mate.....no.

I had the same problem trying to "kill" a bonus at Maria Casino last week. Loaded up Starburst to play my one dead spin. And found I could only play max lines.
Spent about 20 minutes trying to find one poxy game to zero my balance. Couldn't use DOA because it's on the banned list when playing with bonus funds. Not only that, because of the type of bonus it was, I could only use a Netent game as well. Anytime I loaded a game not made by NetEnt, my balance showed up as zero.

In the end, I think Reel Steel was the game that enabled me to kill my bonus.

I know, Its not as easy as people think, i gave up looking for a game, And like its been said, You have to be very careful playing a excluded game as this may come back to haunt you, Even if was a few pence to clear
 

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Kinda taking the fun out of it, people may also want to play fewer lines with more coins, or even the old favourite 'One line at 50 coins' on certain games to mix things up.

Used to play games at 15 lines instead of 20 quite a lot back in the day, cheap & cheerful and it wouldn't pummel my balance either.

Still, with Starburst being gimped now I have one more reason not to play it, to go with the other 150 :cool:
 
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