Made my own thread. Lol.

McCutie323

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So I'm glad i gave myself a wee while to try gather myself back together a wee bit.. It doesnt take much to retrigger me. And yay look at me making my own post...

CHECK - possesses independant thinking.

This particular issue raised, is a first for me. As of 5mins ago. Ive not come across this term before. My earlier assumption, done me no good... I was way off. (NO!?really?)
1+1 and i got 11. But well done jungle spins casino... On ur ability to deter potential players.. IS THERE SOME INSANE PERSON OUT THERE TAKING CONTROL OF ONLINE CASINOS AT THE MOMENT. Ive failed to grasp a huge part of the functioning of casinos. Im refering to SOW.. Someone please explain to me how this documentation is any of their business, for 1.. Also an explanation of how this isnt a perfect example of how inappropriate and increasingly difficult, casinos are to deal with.... There is no way, that there is a legitimate reason for such intimate requests...
At the other end of the scale. If this is what casinos are now requesting these days. THEN WHY THE HECK am i not aloud to submit these documents in order to prove where my moneys come from in order to be paid my $34,000NZD!!! These are what the casino, i am dealing with, should be requesting. I could accept the possibility of casinos rigging gameplay to prevent wins. I respect the idea of terms and conditions. But come on. So insanely backwards. Unprofessional. Immoral. Any wool left preventing me from seeing there is no such thing as a decent and fair casino, is now removed. How can online casinos get away with so much compared to landbased ones. They should be requesting a SOW from me because they WANT to honor what a actual casino entails and treat there DEPOSITING players fairly and doig what they can to get the information required to pay me my money. My "understanding" of terms in general. In any situation are to protect bisnesses from customers with illegal intent.. Not to punish genuine players that misinterpreted, misunderstood or overlooked. And also to assure consumers their are liabilities in place for the business...
I hope i managed to give this thread a point for other posters to share before my emotions got away on me again. I hate being a debbie downer. Poor me. Why me.. Avoiding those questions has got me through so much pain and bullshit. I had a dream the last few years. They've been my darkest years. But id had a light at the endnof the tunnel. I knew where my exit was located. I never thought it wouldnt happen. I just didnt know how much more i was guna be tested before i arrived.. I put my everything into this stupid idea vision whatever. Airy fairy idiot... I was there. This was finally my happy beginning. My family back together. The signal that life had reached the oppourtinity to make good everything i said i was going too. And. Going back to normal. I thought wow. Ive made it. Cause last few months i felt like my purpose was to be mug.ive been defeated that even playing slots wasnt appealing and no longer a escape. I definitely feel defeated all over again for reasons so stupidly unbelievable and unnecessary and apparently unfixable.. Why not... i want to PAB im worried im not even mentally prepared and strong and just be laugjed at. Mocked and let down all over again.
 

McCutie323

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Someone posted a problem with jungle spins and the request for the players SOW. this is the first time ive even heard about SOW. I am having issues with turbico
 

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Someone posted a problem with jungle spins and the request for the players SOW. this is the first time ive even heard about SOW. I am having issues with turbico
ok i see well SOW and SOF is very common online now,i guess if you deposit a small amount weekly you may get away with it,i think the casinos just want to make sure the money you depositing is legitimate,again like i said there isnt any privacy no more
 

McCutie323

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What would help with my problem is the kind of documents requested with a SOW..... OK so i know im guna have the few people commenting going well its the term and conditions your screwed, do ur research first.... But anyway here goes...

I deposited with a skrill account i share with my partner of 8 years and father of my kids. He made it. It was his name because he was on the computer. Its his number verified etc cause he was the one filling it out. U cant use 2 names. Its hardly ever used as a deposit method as it is.. I initially assumed third party rules and such like that applied to fraud, theft, no permission. ANNNND i stopped reading and skipped to next term. What lead to this deposit is i originally out money in partners account to get me a paysafe card while he was out and just txt me the code..
But nah he didnt want to ask his mate to stop at a petrol station. I packed a wobbly and he goes sorry what about skrill. And i thought what a great idea, for once hes actually acting like hes making an effort to be more fair.. So i was distracted by my lame as reletionship issues that I forgot about all the terms and. conditions.
Cause i deposited with skrill my welcome bonus wasnt issued. I went to live chat and they reminded me that some casinos do that.. Even then nothing was flagged or noticed by live chat and im my dizzy spacecadet self just waiting to play.

After reading a few other threads im thinking "well least this time round there was no bonus fixed to it" and i sent all my documents in. Played for a hour or 2 and hit 19,400NZD
 

gonzo fonso

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What would help with my problem is the kind of documents requested with a SOW..... OK so i know im guna have the few people commenting going well its the term and conditions your screwed, do ur research first.... But anyway here goes...

I deposited with a skrill account i share with my partner of 8 years and father of my kids. He made it. It was his name because he was on the computer. Its his number verified etc cause he was the one filling it out. U cant use 2 names. Its hardly ever used as a deposit method as it is.. I initially assumed third party rules and such like that applied to fraud, theft, no permission. ANNNND i stopped reading and skipped to next term. What lead to this deposit is i originally out money in partners account to get me a paysafe card while he was out and just txt me the code..
But nah he didnt want to ask his mate to stop at a petrol station. I packed a wobbly and he goes sorry what about skrill. And i thought what a great idea, for once hes actually acting like hes making an effort to be more fair.. So i was distracted by my lame as reletionship issues that I forgot about all the terms and. conditions.
Cause i deposited with skrill my welcome bonus wasnt issued. I went to live chat and they reminded me that some casinos do that.. Even then nothing was flagged or noticed by live chat and im my dizzy spacecadet self just waiting to play.

After reading a few other threads im thinking "well least this time round there was no bonus fixed to it" and i sent all my documents in. Played for a hour or 2 and hit 19,400NZD
there are so many pitfalls in online gambling.ive never used skrill not saying i wouldnt but i usually use another bank account for online gambling action,my other account just gives me alerts about gambling,basically banks hate gambling they see it as a complete waste etc here in the uk things have tightened up recently i think in october they are removing the autospin option thats when i think i may call it a day,unless i can find a good overseas casino we will see,i do know depositing with skrill usually you dont get any welcome bonus etc,just take it easy n enjoy the session when you play
 

McCutie323

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Lol i withdrawed it. The only option was skrill. It was going back into the same account even. Sorry I was just over 20k. I withdrew 19500 and played the other 500 and and then i put my phone down and tried to find ways of distracting myself. The proud feeling of doing this responsible thing for once was already a big help to keep me distracted.. My partner when i txted him replyed with "awesome.now withdraw and throw your phone away" lol


So feeling pleased and proud I was still anxious. For several reasons. What if I reverse withdraw it. Am i a easy target cause its my first deposit here. I hope screenshots of proof of address is ok. Can i reverse it and try another 500 lmao.gotta be strong, tyler only won 18000, his mrs is guna be mad as that me of all people has won 2000 more then him. Lol shame. Yeah nah i got this. What a opourtunity. U done it tess. Holy shit. I can get a house deposit 2. Get my oldest 2 sons back.omg a steam mop...
best thing though was that i wasnt trying to keep winning. Ive been working on that for the last 6 or 7 months. I managed to cut back considerably on my depositing and plsytime etc.

PART 3 lol a few hours later an email came saying withdraw failed. Logged in. And money was backnin balance.. Still unaware, i was thinking about how inconvient if they expect me to use bank wire... Wsiting 3-5 days for it to arrive.. Pft. No i want instant withdrawal to skrill. Bloody waiting? Pft (thats me pretending to be all v. I. P, by myself lol i dont actually go into chat with that kinda attitude) .. I go see when they getting tech issues sorted csuse i want my winnings. This is when im told i needed better deposit documents and i will have a email explaining what i need to send. Email wasnt there. It actually arrived 24 hours later. 1 hour before they disabled my account. But while i waited for the email to arrive i ending up getting upto 34,000nzd while also accumulating over 300 free spins for all the loyalty level ups. I got up to loyalty level "test driver 5" a level not even mentioned on loyalty page. so yeah anyway took another day afyer the first mention and winnings were there.. I thought. What about trying out live poker. Was in middle of a hand and my game crashed. Account disabled. Realized shit was going down. Live chat then informed me of third party thing. And yeah now u guys have aqquired me. Lmao and its fair to say if read first post that im all over the show emotionally with this. But ultimately want to know how many people thinks I should dispute it. If there's any sucess storys very similar to mine etc before submitting a PAB.

Ok part 3 of lord of all stuff ups trilogy is for now... Concluded. Very appreciative for those. Taking time to read all this. I really do. Really hard tbh writing and keeping up with whats already written when using a dam android. So paitence dealing with that aspect too.. I really appreciate it. Im sorry for the way explain things. Im guna shut the hell up now lmao
 

McCutie323

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there are so many pitfalls in online gambling.ive never used skrill not saying i wouldnt but i usually use another bank account for online gambling action,my other account just gives me alerts about gambling,basically banks hate gambling they see it as a complete waste etc here in the uk things have tightened up recently i think in october they are removing the autospin option thats when i think i may call it a day,unless i can find a good overseas casino we will see,i do know depositing with skrill usually you dont get any welcome bonus etc,just take it easy n enjoy the session when you play
My bank here in NZ can be funny too. Ive hit them up once and they said it would be visa. I can be depositing a couple times then all of a sudden itd stop so ud go via skrill 1 tap.. I prefer paysafecards. Good way to control ur spending. U dont need a account to deposit with paysafe card. So how do they monitor that. Im always to lazy to log into my paysafe account lol i just insert number. I asked what would have happened if the other half had done what he was suppse to and got me a paysafe etc.. They said I'd have to take a selfie with the card.. 😂😂 NOONE i know keeps their paysafes once they've used it and this wouldnhave been requested 2 days later and the voucher would have beennlong gone. And in this case i woukd have been txted through the number.. Innocent enough from my side but reading some threads today and the casino would have nailed me for that too. Justa joke
 

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I feel strongly about the part mentioning there is no justification to holding onto winnings obtained from own money
 

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6HellsBells6

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So I'm glad i gave myself a wee while to try gather myself back together a wee bit.. It doesnt take much to retrigger me. And yay look at me making my own post...

CHECK - possesses independant thinking.

This particular issue raised, is a first for me. As of 5mins ago. Ive not come across this term before. My earlier assumption, done me no good... I was way off. (NO!?really?)
1+1 and i got 11. But well done jungle spins casino... On ur ability to deter potential players.. IS THERE SOME INSANE PERSON OUT THERE TAKING CONTROL OF ONLINE CASINOS AT THE MOMENT. Ive failed to grasp a huge part of the functioning of casinos. Im refering to SOW.. Someone please explain to me how this documentation is any of their business, for 1.. Also an explanation of how this isnt a perfect example of how inappropriate and increasingly difficult, casinos are to deal with.... There is no way, that there is a legitimate reason for such intimate requests...
At the other end of the scale. If this is what casinos are now requesting these days. THEN WHY THE HECK am i not aloud to submit these documents in order to prove where my moneys come from in order to be paid my $34,000NZD!!! These are what the casino, i am dealing with, should be requesting. I could accept the possibility of casinos rigging gameplay to prevent wins. I respect the idea of terms and conditions. But come on. So insanely backwards. Unprofessional. Immoral. Any wool left preventing me from seeing there is no such thing as a decent and fair casino, is now removed. How can online casinos get away with so much compared to landbased ones. They should be requesting a SOW from me because they WANT to honor what a actual casino entails and treat there DEPOSITING players fairly and doig what they can to get the information required to pay me my money. My "understanding" of terms in general. In any situation are to protect bisnesses from customers with illegal intent.. Not to punish genuine players that misinterpreted, misunderstood or overlooked. And also to assure consumers their are liabilities in place for the business...
I hope i managed to give this thread a point for other posters to share before my emotions got away on me again. I hate being a debbie downer. Poor me. Why me.. Avoiding those questions has got me through so much pain and bullshit. I had a dream the last few years. They've been my darkest years. But id had a light at the endnof the tunnel. I knew where my exit was located. I never thought it wouldnt happen. I just didnt know how much more i was guna be tested before i arrived.. I put my everything into this stupid idea vision whatever. Airy fairy idiot... I was there. This was finally my happy beginning. My family back together. The signal that life had reached the oppourtinity to make good everything i said i was going too. And. Going back to normal. I thought wow. Ive made it. Cause last few months i felt like my purpose was to be mug.ive been defeated that even playing slots wasnt appealing and no longer a escape. I definitely feel defeated all over again for reasons so stupidly unbelievable and unnecessary and apparently unfixable.. Why not... i want to PAB im worried im not even mentally prepared and strong and just be laugjed at. Mocked and let down all over again.
Don't look back. Well Done!:thumbsup:
 

McCutie323

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Yes but they wont even let me prove it came from me originally. Thats what's making me mad. I respect the need for terms. Make me jump through a few hoops etc but come on for f sakes didnt even give me a chance. It was pure oversight on my part, i already know im a freaken space cadet at times. And i was already verified for proving i was myself. So its not like a lot of digging was required on their part. No TURBICO just didnt wana pay me $34,000. Casinos dont have to do this. They choose too. They took away 300 free spins from loyalty levelling and my loyalty points too. Just butt munchers. It was a MISTAKE not a criminal offence. Stop acting like i am ibe
 

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Yes but they wont even let me prove it came from me originally. Thats what's making me mad. I respect the need for terms. Make me jump through a few hoops etc but come on for f sakes didnt even give me a chance. It was pure oversight on my part, i already know im a freaken space cadet at times. And i was already verified for proving i was myself. So its not like a lot of digging was required on their part. No TURBICO just didnt wana pay me $34,000. Casinos dont have to do this. They choose too. They took away 300 free spins from loyalty levelling and my loyalty points too. Just butt munchers. It was a MISTAKE not a criminal offence. Stop acting like i am ibe

You cannot prove the money came from you, as it didn't. It came from a third party.

As far as the Casino is concerned, you earnt the 300 spins and loyalty levels with money that did not belong to you.

Can't see where the mistake is?. You deposited money into your account using someone elses Skrill account, thats one of the biggest no no's in the business. So cannot understand why you are so mad at the Casino?.

Was a slam dunk you was going to fall flat on your face if you won and had to provide ID for the Skrill account, you don't sound like a novice, so hardly an oversight.
 

McCutie323

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How can i not prove where it came it from. When such things as bank statements screenshots and time stamps. And a brain.. Id like to see the same logic ur using trying push across (possession is 9 10ths of the law) used in every day life. Next time my mum chucks her wallet in my lap to look after. Im guna pull her money out. Tell her to suck a fat one. Buy a tv and if the police r called im guna say. But heres my birth cert that says i own the body that was holding the money therefore its my money its no longer her money because she told me to hold it. It left her possession.. In fact since ur logic is so great im might just start robbing half of my city because according to u theres no proving its someones money if they re not holding it
 
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