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Luxor Valley (Gamescale) Malfunction?

Discussion in 'Online Casinos' started by Simmo!, Aug 26, 2016.

    Aug 26, 2016
  1. Simmo!

    Simmo! Moderator Staff Member

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    So I was playing Luxor Valley last night - hadn't realised this old Viaden game was back but it seems to be, although the new design leaves something to be desired it must be said! It is now developed by Gamescale - I assume they bought the licence?

    Anyway, playing it last night and something very odd happened. It's essentially a Book Of Ra clone and I hit the feature, got 10's as the expanding scatter. Aside from the fact I went all 10 spins without even 3 10's appearing, when 2 appear, they expand even though there is no payout. No problem: a bit frustrating but that's how the Viaden version worked too.

    However on the 7th spin I got 4 J symbols on the middle line with a 10 in view on reels 4 and 5. The 10's expanded and then it paid me for 3 J's, not 4. Two spins later, I got a re-trigger: 3 scatters on reels 3, 4 and 5 with a 10 visible on reel 4 and 5. Again, the 10's both expanded to give me a big fat nothing and effectively hide 2 of the 3 scatters then went to the last spin with no re-trigger!! It didn't even pay me for the 3 scatter re-trigger. So I won a grand total of 4x from the free spins although to be fair, that was my largest payout in some 200 spins!

    The Help text for the game is below.

    I am waiting for the casino to re-spin: will be interesting to see what they say. I'm inclined to do more research on the game and find it's TST because the whole experience of playing it struck me as very odd but my gut feel is that - like the Viaden version - it should asses the wins in view and any re-triggers based on the symbols you see when the reels land, not after the symbols have expanded.


     
  2. Aug 26, 2016
  3. conker

    conker Senior Member CAG MM webmeister

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    Viaden just sort of slipped out of the consciousness a while back. I had a feeling we might see them return in some form and it appears to be Gamescale is the chosen rebrand.

    Will be interesting to hear what the casino comes back with on this one. Perhaps that will depend on their integrity, so this is a good test of their support.
     
  4. Aug 26, 2016
  5. dunover

    dunover Unofficial T&C's Editor Staff Member CAG PABnononaccred PABnonaccred PABinit mm3 webmeister

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    They also have these games live:

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    Where can you play them?

    It clearly isn't meant to work like that, a copy is a copy simple as.
     
  6. Aug 26, 2016
  7. Simmo!

    Simmo! Moderator Staff Member

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    I was thrown a freebie from an old casino I tried called Casino Triomphe so popped back in and found LV there.
     
  8. Aug 27, 2016
  9. Jd666

    Jd666 RiffRaff CAG mm4

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    Isnt that one of the casinos who had the fake net ent slots
     
  10. Aug 27, 2016
  11. Simmo!

    Simmo! Moderator Staff Member

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    I'll need to check that - they certainly don't have many good slot games. No MGS, Net Ent, WMS or anything like that, although they do have the Casinomeister slot and other NYX games. The POGG Has them blacklisted and as having Affpower as the affiliate program, who were definitely implicated in the Net Ent scandal but on the Triomphe site, it says Casino Partners 365 are the affiliate program.

    No idea. Going to see what the response to the game issue is first and go from there. Doesn't look good - not even an acknowledgement to my contact after 36 hours.
     
  12. Aug 27, 2016
  13. dunover

    dunover Unofficial T&C's Editor Staff Member CAG PABnononaccred PABnonaccred PABinit mm3 webmeister

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    Yep Simmo - he's right I have that info too:
    You must register/login in order to see the link.

    CP365 scam affy program. I knew I'd seen this crapola before somewhere, forgot I had it on my own scam page!

    Euromooncasino, deuceclub, osiriscasino. Parklanecasino, oceanbets, magikcasino. Crazycasinoclub, slots500, ramsesgold. Casinobordeaux, casinotriomphe. Scam affiliate programs: casinopartners365, aff247.

    Looks like you have found some bent games and I get spam from these w*nkers every day.

    Sorry! :mad:
     
  14. Aug 27, 2016
  15. Simmo!

    Simmo! Moderator Staff Member

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    So I wonder where this leaves Gamescale, the game developer. The site is very professional and they have a raft of games. SlotMonster might be a man that knows how the Viaden game(s) ended up here. The issue here is with the game rather than the casino.
     
  16. Aug 27, 2016
  17. SlotMonster

    SlotMonster Twitch Streamer - Affiliate webmeister

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    Hello there!

    I quit my job at Viaden at February, 2014, so not too much help from me, as more than 2 year passed. However, I assume that at the moment this slot works "as designed". I also didn't like how it worked and even created a thread here at CM about it : http://www.casinomeister.com/forums/online-casinos/44248-slot-expanding-symbols-scatters.html

    Viaden was bought by Teddi Sagi, the owner of Playtech, and was doing an outsource jobs for Playtech. I'm not sure what they are doing at the moment but most likely they continue making games for Playtech.
     
  18. Aug 27, 2016
  19. dunover

    dunover Unofficial T&C's Editor Staff Member CAG PABnononaccred PABnonaccred PABinit mm3 webmeister

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    Say no more. The 'P-word' is enough. :mad:

    The game is seriously f*cked and badly designed, should be avoided IMO. If people are going to rip-off BoR at least do it properly like Play N Go did......
     
  20. Aug 27, 2016
  21. Simmo!

    Simmo! Moderator Staff Member

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    Thanks Viktar.

    Interesting. I could kind of understand if the expanding symbols expanded to give you a win but they expand even when they don't, so you not only get nothing for the expanded symbols but you lose the other wins (and in this case, 10 extra spins). It masquerades as a Book Of Ra clone but it throws in this curveball.

    I am sure Viaden had two versions of this slot and I played one of them a lot at Trada casino but I don't remember this issue coming up. This new version looks different to both the originals.

    That original thread you link to covers the issue of expanding symbols negating wins so I guess there is no need to debate the merits of that further. I'll wait and see what the casino comes back with.
     
  22. Aug 28, 2016
  23. SlotMonster

    SlotMonster Twitch Streamer - Affiliate webmeister

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    Just for the record: it was designed way before Viaden was sold :D
     
  24. Aug 28, 2016
  25. jetset

    jetset Ueber Meister CAG

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    "Without enough information we could only speculate on the Gamescale development and deployment process, however we have been told that they purchased at least 11 games from Viaden and 'upgraded' them. Since that time they have released many more games. We currently find slots and other Gamescale games at two casinos owned by Conan Gaming Limited. This overlap of games has been very confusing to us as we still see some of the games at casinos stating they are solely powered by Viaden Gaming. (Trada Casino carries Luxor Valley, Dice Express, Non-Stop Party, etc. and has no mention of Gamescale on their website)."
     
  26. Aug 29, 2016
  27. Simmo!

    Simmo! Moderator Staff Member

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    Final update on this issue. The casino has verified that the game behaves as designed.

    Personally I feel it is wrong for any slot game to remove winning symbols from the screen and replace them with non-winning symbols unless it expressly tells the player in the rules that this is the case so I have closed my account there and shan't be touching Luxor Valley ever again, that's for sure.

    And that, as they say, is that :)

    Thanks for your help anyway Viktar :thumbsup:
     

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