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Discussion in 'Online Casinos' started by AussieDave, Mar 18, 2009.

    Mar 18, 2009
  1. AussieDave

    AussieDave Dodgy whacko backstabber

    Occupation:
    Gaming SEO Specialist & Casino Webmaster
    Location:
    Australia
    Pre-empted Warning!

    As was predicted a lot of iffy casinos have opened lately, LuckNetwork.com is yet another IMHO. Deposits are via CC, Switch, Solo, Maestro and Bank Wire.

    Withdrawals are only available via Wire and command these terms:
    A maximum of 5000 will be sent per week, all balances will be sent the following week(s).

    Although this one does not accept USA players, it's T&C's are shocking especially this one:

    XXXhttp://www.luckynetwork.com/inside.asp?pID=234

    16. If you are found to be cheating or attempting to defraud the games or if you make untrue and/or malicious comments with regard to the Company's operation, the Company reserves the right to publicize your actions together with your identity and e-mail address as well as to circulate this information to other casinos, banks, credit card companies and appropriate agencies.

    Further up the page there are these:

    12. If you do not log onto your Casino account for a period of 180 days, any balance in your account will be forfeited to the Company.

    And this among others:

    5. The games are for entertainment value only. No purchase is necessary or required to play the games. You may play without betting money if you wish. Any participation in the games is at your sole option, discretion and risk. By playing the games, you acknowledge that you do not find the games or the Casino to be offensive, objectionable, unfair or indecent.

    "By playing the games, you acknowledge that you do not find the games or the Casino to be offensive, objectionable, unfair or indecent"

    Obviously these concern me. What really bothers me is clause 12 especially when combined with clause 5 and the aforementioned extract. Which I read that even if you have proof that a game is dodgy; the casino is dodgy or anything that brings such matters to light, the casino will make your life hell if you blow the whistle!

    LuckyNetwork.com is also directly connected to luckylottoticket.com (web site reports update in progress) which is operating on an IP out of Joburg SA.

    As an affiliate though, if they are going to treat players like this then how do you think they will treat an affiliate who promotes them.


    Cheers
    T
     
  2. Mar 18, 2009
  3. RobWin

    RobWin closed account

    Occupation:
    Who knows?
    Location:
    A Vault!
    I've read those exact terms and conditions somewhere else too but I cannot remember right now exactly where it was. There is another thread or post on here somewhere within the last month or two that has those T's & C's listed in it.
     
  4. Mar 18, 2009
  5. AussieDave

    AussieDave Dodgy whacko backstabber

    Occupation:
    Gaming SEO Specialist & Casino Webmaster
    Location:
    Australia
    Hi Rob,

    I did a copyscape.com on YYYhttp://www.luckynetwork.com/inside.asp?pID=234

    Just checked with google too.

    You must register/login in order to see the link.
     
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  6. Mar 18, 2009
  7. winbig

    winbig Keep winning this amount. webby PABnononaccred

    Occupation:
    Bum
    Location:
    Pennsylvania
    :eek: :eek: :eek2: :eek2:

    Re: The 180 day "term":

    You must register/login in order to see the link.


    You must register/login in order to see the link.
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    .............................................................


    :eek:

    Check out You must register/login in order to see the link. and you can throw in any text or URL for it to check, and it'll come back with all kinds of results from the text/paragraphs on that page. Here's the URL for luckynetwork's T&C page.


    You must register/login in order to see the link.
     
    2 people like this.
  8. Mar 18, 2009
  9. AussieDave

    AussieDave Dodgy whacko backstabber

    Occupation:
    Gaming SEO Specialist & Casino Webmaster
    Location:
    Australia
  10. Mar 18, 2009
  11. thebizb

    thebizb Dormant account

    Occupation:
    railroader
    Location:
    ontario
    Came across this place luckynetwork.com they were offering a $50ndb
    just wondering if anyones played here?? experiences etc.. :what:
     
  12. Mar 18, 2009
  13. RobWin

    RobWin closed account

    Occupation:
    Who knows?
    Location:
    A Vault!
    1 person likes this.
  14. Mar 19, 2009
  15. vegetagirl2008

    vegetagirl2008 Mafia Wars Level 472

    Occupation:
    No Job Here..
    Location:
    Brooklyn, New York, United States
    I don't think you would want to play there with this statement...

    Yea right on that one..
     
    1 person likes this.
  16. Mar 19, 2009
  17. paul02085

    paul02085 Senior Member

    Occupation:
    Fishing :)
    Location:
    USA
    US not allowed
     
  18. Mar 19, 2009
  19. AussieDave

    AussieDave Dodgy whacko backstabber

    Occupation:
    Gaming SEO Specialist & Casino Webmaster
    Location:
    Australia
    I was discussing this with my partner today. She says "why worry about it you can't change anything that they do"...

    I went on to explained that whatever dodgy place opens that operates in this manner indirectly affects affiliates like myself. Because it's just another operation that is clearly out to screw players.

    That must have joined the dots for her because she then said why not start a site that inform people of these places. I laughed...it's already happened babe, that's what CM's is all about. However some places just fall through the cracks.

    Anyway my take on this and places like this as is as an affiliate I have a responsibility towards my visitors. I don't think most players see things like we do. My partners response is in most parts a common opinion.

    We all know the combine affect we can leverage when we all stick together and look out for all our interests.

    Ultimately I'd like to see us form some type of alliance, where by we all have a page on our sites that warn players of these new sites that are opening that are iffy at best.

    We need to protect the industry and in doing so we can protect our number one asset, that being our gambling visitors.

    I'd sure appreciate hearing your thoughts on this.


    Cheers
    T
     
  20. Mar 19, 2009
  21. jetset

    jetset Ueber Meister CAG

    Occupation:
    Senior Partner, InfoPowa News Service
    Location:
    Earth
    This is virtually useless in information terms, but is associated with Lucky Network (see logo at foot of Lucky Network landing page)

    You must register/login in order to see the link.
     
  22. Mar 19, 2009
  23. jetset

    jetset Ueber Meister CAG

    Occupation:
    Senior Partner, InfoPowa News Service
    Location:
    Earth
    There's another thread around here somewhere (started by Trezz) which highlights a few more unsavoury facts about this operation's T&Cs.

    And the software in use is not well known.

    Treat with great caution.
     
  24. Mar 19, 2009
  25. jetset

    jetset Ueber Meister CAG

    Occupation:
    Senior Partner, InfoPowa News Service
    Location:
    Earth
    Oh dear!


    "Address lookup
    canonical name luckynetwork.com.
    aliases
    addresses 66.212.228.98"

    "Network Whois record

    Queried whois.arin.net with "!NET-66-212-228-96-1"...

    CustName: Doleplex Trading Limited
    Address: 4th Floor
    Address: 5 Costis Palamas Street
    City: Nicosia
    StateProv:
    PostalCode: 2084
    Country: CY
    RegDate: 2008-03-03
    Updated: 2008-03-03"
     
  26. Mar 19, 2009
  27. Rusty

    Rusty Banned User - repetitive flaming

    Occupation:
    IT
    Location:
    Manchester UK
    16. If you are found to be cheating or attempting to defraud the games or if you make untrue and/or malicious comments with regard to the Company's operation, the Company reserves the right to publicize your actions together with your identity and e-mail address as well as to circulate this information to other casinos, banks, credit card companies and appropriate agencies.

    :lolup::lolup::lolup:

    Go ahead punks make my Day :rolleyes:
     
  28. Mar 19, 2009
  29. Casinomeister

    Casinomeister Forum Cheermeister Staff Member

    Occupation:
    Homemaker
    Location:
    Bierland
    Unfortunately, this is a common term that is in many, many casino's terms and conditions. Google search on "or if you make untrue and/or malicious comments" yields no less than 522 results.

    You must register/login in order to see the link.

    Just don't cheat. :p
     
  30. Mar 19, 2009
  31. Casinomeister

    Casinomeister Forum Cheermeister Staff Member

    Occupation:
    Homemaker
    Location:
    Bierland
    Doloplex? I thought this was the defunct Warren Cloud company.

    As for the funky terms and conditions, they are like some viral disease. I remember eCOGRA taking a stand on the the Company reserves the right to publicize your actions together with your identity and e-mail address as well as to circulate this information to other casinos, banks, credit card companies and appropriate agencies. term with Vegas Partners some years ago. And as far as I remember, it was modified to say something else.

    On the other hand, how often has this term been exercised to the fullest? In ten years, I have yet to see a reputable casino publicize a fraudster's personal information in public. I think these are just used as scare tactics.

    The doloplex thing is odd though.
     
  32. Mar 19, 2009
  33. KasinoKing

    KasinoKing WebMeister & Slotaholic.. CAG MM PABnonaccred webmeister

    Occupation:
    House-Husband and Casino Advisor
    Location:
    Bexhill on sea, England
    Well actually you can.
    I e-mailed them yesterday pointing out their no-deposit welcome bonus would be a gold mine for 'bonus abusers' - within 24hrs they changed the T&C's to close the loop-hole and sent a 'thank you' e-mail back. :thumbsup:

    I know no more about the people behind this than anyone else, but I get the impression they are striving to be fair & honest, but just that they have very little experience in online casinos. They are obviously brand new - let's give them a chance to prove themselves (or not) before we chastise them too much, eh?

    KK
     
  34. Mar 19, 2009
  35. RobWin

    RobWin closed account

    Occupation:
    Who knows?
    Location:
    A Vault!
    The words (malicious comments) should definitely not be in those T's & C's though since that's a huge problem and a predatory term for the simple reason that what they are saying there is basically if you say anything negative about the casino they have the right to follow thru with the threat relayed in this term and the word (malicious) in reality means no more than (harboring ill will or enmity).

    That is one term that they need to remove immediately from those terms and conditions as it has absolutely nothing at all to do with cheating or being a fraud.
     
    1 person likes this.
  36. Mar 19, 2009
  37. Nifty29

    Nifty29 Dormant account

    Occupation:
    PAID CASINO SHILL
    Location:
    Turn right, then right. then right again
    Its a shame about those terms, as the slots are really really good.

    Nice software and bonus rounds, but the download of games is a little slow.

    Would be interested to see if anyone gets paid as the only option seems to be bank transfer at present.
     
  38. Mar 19, 2009
  39. lee_bumble

    lee_bumble Dormant account

    Occupation:
    Adminstration
    Location:
    UK
    i had a look and took up the 50ND. i also completed the WR but they only have the option of bank transfer which to me seems a little odd. i havent given these details and im not sure if i should?? the software is pretty good though. alot of work has gone into making the slots thats for sure. i spoke to CS and they are based in south africa which doesnt mean anything to me what about you guys??. the software is ICE GAMING, now of you goto there website You must register/login in order to see the link. nothing seems to work on there apart from the first page, check it out!! would be intrested to hear what you guys think.
     

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