LOTR - email from All Slots

PegeeSue

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Just received this email from All Slots. Didn't see any other post but apologies if it's already been posted.

Hi Peggy,

All good things must come to an end. The Lord of the Rings™ slot game at All Slots Casino will be closing on June 28th.

But here's the good news! An AMAZING new slot game is coming, and while I can't give away any details yet, let's just say it's going to be a real blockbuster. Stay tuned.

In the meantime, take your last few spins on The Lord of the Rings and get ready for more excitement coming soon!

Best regards,



David Brickman
Director of Canadian Player Affairs
All Slots Casino

Wasn't a huge fan of the game but had some pretty nice hits on it.
 

Jasminebed

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Don't know why Mr Brickman couldn't share what we all seem to know.... Dark Knight is LOTR with new pictures.

Hope we didn't ruin his big surprise, lmao.
 

vinylweatherman

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LOTR seems a very odd game. This is the ONLY game that MGS have retired, let alone retired TWICE!

MGS have always released new games, but NEVER retire the old ones, which is why the original games from the "Thumper" era are still around.

It seems MGS are now having "limited edition" games that are released in a blaze of glory, but only stick around a short while, only to be replaced with something else. No doubt "Dark Knight" will only stick around for a year or two, and then get retired.

It diesn't seem to have anything to do with the theme, as there are many slots that rely on a licensing deal, yet they are still around years later, Tomb Raider is one example, and Hellboy another.

Those with small hard drives will probably be thankful that LOTR is going, as it took up one hell of a lot of room, and I expect "Dark Knight" will be just as bloated.

This was first posted by Simmo a while back, but he then qualified the post by saying his source was not necessarily that reliable. It seems his source was almost spot on, the slot WAS being pulled, but a month later than suggested. Maybe this source WAS 100% accurate at the time, and it was MGS that gave the slot an extra month before pulling the plug, perhaps so it could be a straight swap.

There must be other crappy games MGS can get rid of to make way for the new ones, and stop the cache from bloating even further.
 

azzy

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Maybe LOTR was too expensive.... Hard to know any other reason why they take off so succesful game.
 

ValDes

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I think that shutting down the LOTR slot will be a great shock for all MGS admirers! At least for one of them – me!:oops:
I played this marvellous slot from the very beginning and won huge amounts even on the lower bets. I don’t think that there is another MGS slots where you can win 169.08 sredits playing at only 0.30 bet per spin!:p
 

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I think that shutting down the LOTR slot will be a great shock for all MGS admirers! At least for one of them – me!:oops:
I played this marvellous slot from the very beginning and won huge amounts even on the lower bets. I don’t think that there is another MGS slots where you can win 169.08 sredits playing at only 0.30 bet per spin!:p


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vinylweatherman

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It's being advertised in it's last week as "the most popular slot of all time", yet clearly not popular enough for MGS to carry on paying whatever fees it has to.

There is another aspect though, LOTR is licensed from the movie, but Batman is not, it is licensed from DC comics. Perhaps this has more to do with Hollywood than Microgaming. Licensing from DC comics, rather than the Hollywood studios, could be cheaper, as well as less volatile in terms of fickle attitudes about whether they can carry on using it or not.

We know that the original agreement was for 3 LOTR games, but it became clear something had gone wrong when LOTR 2 came out, and they had to pull LOTR 1, rather than do what they have done every other time with slots like Tomb Raider and just add the newer version, keeping the original.

It does look much the same, and is a progressive in the Mega Moolah series, just like LOTR 2.
 

dionysus

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There is another aspect though, LOTR is licensed from the movie, but Batman is not, it is licensed from DC comics. Perhaps this has more to do with Hollywood than Microgaming. Licensing from DC comics, rather than the Hollywood studios, could be cheaper, as well as less volatile in terms of fickle attitudes about whether they can carry on using it or not.

Dc is actually a company of Warner Bros. Entertainment, which itself is owned by Time Warner; a lot of
Hollywood still I think.
 

vinylweatherman

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Dc is actually a company of Warner Bros. Entertainment, which itself is owned by Time Warner; a lot of
Hollywood still I think.

Maybe the indirect relationship makes a difference. I remember when LOTR came out that affiliates were given pretty specific instructions on what they were allowed to do in terms of marketing based on the game, as well as specific instructions on what they could NOT do. I have not seen anything like this before, not even on other games licensed from outside sources. Some of these instructions were insanely pedantic, such as how capital letters were used in the name of the game, and that in any review, no mention of the book was to be made, nor of certain characters in the film (Gollum being one that could not even be mentioned in a background review, let alone a game specific review).

Maybe this license was so restrictive that MGS decided it wasn't worth carrying on, so they ditched plans for LOTR 3 and licensed Batman instead. Batman is less complicated, as there are fewer separate parties involved. LOTR had to involve the author of the books, as well as the film studios and individual actors who played the part.

Maybe the theme on Dark Knight will be animated movie clips, rather than from the films. This would cut out the individual actors from being a party to the agreements, as well as make the licensing cheaper for MGS.

It is possible that MGS will only keep Dark Knight for a year or two, and then replace it with something else, but using the same "slot" in the lobby, rather than adding it as a separate game.
 

Simmo!

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At the back of my mind I am wondering if the fact that WMS got a licence for LOTR before MGS is factored into this decision. It's possible that WMS, now they are online, have a licence that gives them exclusivity which might also have included online (ambiguoulsy?) and the licence awarded to MG somehow caused issues.

I guess we'll only ever know if WMS do an online version of LOTR at some point. Be a major development task that but with WMS's clout in the market, US especially, you wonder. Of course that's speculative but it seemed very odd to have two 'exclusive" licences on what is essentially the same brand. I know it happened with Marvel but I seem to remember that too had issues that needed a diplomatic solution.
 

immortality

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At the back of my mind I am wondering if the fact that WMS got a licence for LOTR before MGS is factored into this decision. It's possible that WMS, now they are online, have a licence that gives them exclusivity which might also have included online (ambiguoulsy?) and the licence awarded to MG somehow caused issues.

I was wondering this too as I seen from vids on Youtube that WMS have got a version of lotr.
 

Pinababy69

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Never played LOTR, and doubt I'll play Dark Knight. No loss to me.
 
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