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$lotland - well what do you know

Discussion in 'Online Casinos' started by Slotmachine, Oct 18, 2004.

    Oct 18, 2004
  1. Slotmachine

    Slotmachine Dormant account

    Occupation:
    Management
    Location:
    US
    How's this for a nightmare (no screenshot though)

    Played "Heavy Metal" slot for several hours. On two occasions I forgot to bet on a particular history line (a line with locked symbols with an optional bet). And guess what - on one occasion I got the $ $ $ which would have paid $320. And on the second occasion....JACKPOT! 777 777 777.
    Right there on the line that I did not bet on. Running at $51381.00

    Random? My ass. They never would have hit had I bet on those lines. I had bet on two $ $ .. symbols and two 777 777 symbols dozens of times that night on the history lines.

    OK, so maybe it's a coincidence, it's within the realm of possibility. But what are the odds of a jackpot combination? Royals go at 44000 to 1 against or something like that, let's assume the slot jackpot is the same. What are the odds of me hitting 2/3 locked jackpot symbols like 30 times, and then forgetting to place a bet once, and then hitting the jackpot?

    Of course, slotland games are weighted, I know that. They admit that even their video pokers don't deliver royals naturally, but in a jackpot-weighted manner. But it truly stinks that they give you the jackpot symbols on zero-bet lines.
    Perhaps better to take the money and run. VH
     
  2. Oct 19, 2004
  3. sw2003

    sw2003 Dormant account

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    somewhere :)
    Don't get too worked up about this! We all know that had you bet that line, the jackpot would have never come. They are just playing games with you!
    I wouldn't lose any sleep on it!


     
  4. Oct 19, 2004
  5. m249a

    m249a Dormant account

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    self employed
    Location:
    Pa
    It's ok, I would have been pretty pissed too......In fact I think I would have launched my cpu tower down the steps :lolup: :lolup: and then jumped on it a few times.................Its for the best you don't have a screen shot anyway. It would just piss you off every time you looked at it.
     
  6. Oct 19, 2004
  7. thetest32

    thetest32 Non-Gambler

    Don't worry - I remember having a chat with a representative of theirs (Ray St. John - marketing) who admitted that the machines give a jackpot in situations like that (I.E. where you forget to bet). Guess it's to make you think 'if only I had bet on that line...' and the lose loads.

    But yeah... don't worry!

    B.
     
  8. Oct 19, 2004
  9. caruso

    caruso Banned User - repetitive violations of 1.6 - troll

    Occupation:
    Casino apologist
    Location:
    England
    Anyone insane enough to be patronizing, or considering patronizing, this rogue outfit should have a little read of this thread:

    http://www.casinomeister.com/forums/showthread.php?t=5371

    Aside from the disgraceful matters raised above, this is the single WORST casino on the net in terms of game payback. I would advocate Warren Cloud casinos before this place - based on the rationale that a casino that MIGHT pay but with a few quality games is infinitely better than a casino that WILL pay but with zero-return games. The former gamble is the better one.

    Stay away from Slotland.
     
  10. Oct 19, 2004
  11. dominique

    dominique Dormant account

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    All slots are like that. They all tease you. "I almost won" is the most common thing slots players say. It's what slots are all about - an emotional roller coaster.

    Most slots with progressives, if you don't bet all lines and the winning combo comes up, you get zilch.

    The only advice one needs to play slots in the most rational manner possible is to always bet the maximum lines. If you can't afford it, choose a lower denomination slot.
     
  12. Oct 20, 2004
  13. GrandMaster

    GrandMaster Ueber Meister CAG

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    Mathematician by day, online gambler by night.
    Location:
    UK
    A fair slot machine will give you lot more near misses than hits, that's just simple mathematics. The claim is the Slotland's software is programmed to give you the jackpot on the lines you did not bet on, if true, this is dishonest behaviour.
     
  14. Oct 20, 2004
  15. dominique

    dominique Dormant account

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    Somehow I think there are not a lot of slots players posting in this thread.

    I am sure Slotland did not have a built in sensor that said - "aha, he didn't bet the extra line. Let's put a perfect score on it". That is baloney and I would like to see anyone prove it.

    The line where the jackpot appears - in almost all multi line or feature slots everywhere - is an extra bet. If you don't bet it, you don't get it.

    That is why I said before, and I have told people over and over, if you play slots pick a denomination machine where you can afford to always bet on all lines. If you don't make the maximum bet you will see yourself missing the big one some day.

    Slotland has slots that are a bit different and more challenging - that is why they have such a loyal following despite the HTML software being unpopular because it is slow. They have features that are different from all others out there and some need you to actually pay attention and make decisions. Some are actually quite ingenious.

    I think Slotland will be around as the classic it is for many years to come. Microgaming slots are really pretty much all the same - with different graphics and sounds. Crypto has some with interesting features. Iglobal has some quirky and unique features. Playtech doesn't turn me on with their slots. I'll play Slotland over Playtech anytime.
     
  16. Oct 20, 2004
  17. Petunia

    Petunia Dormant account

    vesihiisi: A nightmare indeed!!

    I'd be upset too! Prolly do what m249a suggested, and then ... erm,
    go back and play some more.

    I have to admid, I like playing slots, but only on a 'retard' day, where I don't feel like thinking, or doing much.

    Better game next time?
     
  18. Oct 20, 2004
  19. virtualted

    virtualted No longer working for Virtual

    Location:
    Costa Rica
    I agree with dominique 100%. Sometimes when you look at the progressive jackpots when they become too large it is not that they are over due, or that he casino has them set to never hit. Sometimes the jackpot combination gets hit, but with out maximum coins in, it does not reset. I have one slot that has been hit twice without full coins in, so the jackpot keeps growing, but it does not mean it is over due.
    Ted
    You must register/login in order to see the link.
     
  20. Oct 20, 2004
  21. dominique

    dominique Dormant account

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    By the way, someone just won the Slotland Jackpot earlier this month - on the 13th or thereabouts.

     
  22. Oct 20, 2004
  23. jpm

    jpm Dormant account

    Well this certainly won't hurt the casino, since they are raking in the money from their video SLOT machines that they intentionally mislabel as video poker machines.
     
  24. Oct 20, 2004
  25. GrandMaster

    GrandMaster Ueber Meister CAG

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    Mathematician by day, online gambler by night.
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    UK
    I am not disputing that people win the jckpot occasionally. I repeat my question. Is benroles' statement true, does Slotland deliberately give you the jackpot symbols on the lines you did not bet on?
     
  26. Oct 21, 2004
  27. dominique

    dominique Dormant account

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    I would like to see proof of that. I simply don't believe it - what is the point? To make you feel bad?

    Slots are designed to be an emotional roller coaster anyway. They don't need any help in that.
     
  28. Oct 21, 2004
  29. caruso

    caruso Banned User - repetitive violations of 1.6 - troll

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    This is a matter of trivial importance in comparison to the matter of deception and false advertising this casino practices. Slots are already "rigged"; what does it matter that they may be "double rigged"?

    You must register/login in order to see the link.

    Click on "card games" and read the first five lines. This matter was brought up some time ago, and NOTHING has been altered. Affiliate pressure would quickly replace this flagrant deception with more appropriate, accurate wording, explaining that the JOB game is a SLOT.

    So in case anyone wonders why affiliate pressure is so conspicuously absent, check this out:

    You must register/login in order to see the link.

    25% of the drop - deposits, not losses. That's a pretty spectacular affy deal. $250 for every $1000 deposited.

    This is one cash-cow that isn't going to be subjected to any affiliate molestation any time soon. As such, bereft of any assistance, players really should ALL take it upon themselves to boycott CHEATING casinos like this until they change their ways and their practice of flagrantly deceiptpful advertising.

    Stay away from Slotland.
     
  30. Oct 21, 2004
  31. trade

    trade Senior Member

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    not so random...

    The answer is yes, it is deliberate. Ray (one of the owners) and Robert have acknowledged that a jackpot "win" (not) can and do show up on lines not bet on. If you ask them directly, you will find out it is no secret, but it is obviously very deceiving to newbees- I fell for it once upon a time.
     
  32. Oct 21, 2004
  33. dominique

    dominique Dormant account

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    Of course it does!

    It does so on every slot out there!

    Caruso, I haven't had a check from Slotland in months. Stop with your accusations and insinuations - you understand nothing of the affiliate business. I happen to like Slotland. I also like Webcam and Omnii and Inetbet and will defend them when you attack them. And likely a few others. Some of these I don't even advertise, like inetbet.

    You guys don't understand slots. You need to learn some before you level attacks at them.

    I generally stay out of BJ attacks - while I play well, I do not understand all the statistical stuff. You should do the same when you don't understand something.
     
  34. Oct 21, 2004
  35. Petunia

    Petunia Dormant account

    Hell knows no fury...... Like a gambler scorned!
     
  36. Oct 22, 2004
  37. DeMango

    DeMango Dormant account

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    Englewood, FL USA
    I'm sorry but I must be missing something here. Slots pay out what 90-95%? We have a slot mislabled on purpose as Video Poker, therefore misrepresenting the payout by 5-10% I'm sitting here as I type, in the bowels of the Four Queens(downtown Vegas). I see them wall to wall playing slots and not doing too well. You are quite right Dominique I (we) do not understand slots. But I understand the thievery that goes on here. Sorry.....
     
  38. Oct 22, 2004
  39. jyde

    jyde Dormant account

    When I played at Slotland it was always Spacejacks - once or twice I would have won the jackpot if *only* I had bet all three hands :) A friend of mine who I introduced to Slotland *would* have won the jackpot the very first time he played there...if only he had bet all three hands :D
     

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