Lost the wow factor

[trancemonkey]

I love compensated games. I travel the globe hanging outside the houses of players waiting for them to do balls in the likes of jungle spirit b4 firing up my laptop and taking the value.

Haha

 

[trancemonkey]

If it were truly random. With such a large playing field hitting a big win one in a while should not immediately guarantee a poor losing streak immediately afterwords. You would expect maybe hours or day or week or months later you could play the same game and be lucky enough to win big again or get a good session on. Sorry but I've played and witnessed enough that this is and does not happen. It's clearly evident that these slots are compensated to each individual player. As for walking away when ahead. Pfft.... whatever.... the industry relys and thrives on player returning to the same slots.

I really am truly bored of the plethora of compensation rubbish I see on here... Every example you give of compensation is actually compete proof they are NOT compensated... Because if I was going to compensate a game I simply would not make it play like you say.

If you think they are compensated just stop playing...

Otherwise accept that you're playing a game mathematically and statistically created to make money.. hence you won't always win. And yes on a game when you got a big win you are statistically more likely not to get another big win soon than you are to get one. It's simple maths.

 

[goatwack]

Your not a very successful ho if your throwing so much money away!

I've known so many hos so stupid that they pay me

 

[TheAddict]

@dogshead

alright, fair one. it was a lil cheeky.. and the timing could have been better. but it wasn't aimed at you or anyone specifically. had it only been you who mentioned the that it feels compensated, and that gonzo hadn't said it is 100% compensated i wouldn't have bothered with the reply. As like a lot of my bellend replies, no harm was meant anyway. I just don't believe it would be compensated. (not a question but just thinking out loud when i say...) why would they bother to make one game compensated and the rest not so... if anything (and i am no trancemonkey lol) maybe its the way the maths model or whatever is setup, that gives off that impression. with the constant dead spins on a highly volatile game, making the losses potentially happen at a faster rate. feck knows.
anyway apolagies.. for what it's worth.

 

[slot_zombie]

I've known so many hos so stupid that they pay me

Phone numbers please

 

[dogshead1]

I really am truly bored of the plethora of compensation rubbish I see on here... Every example you give of compensation is actually compete proof they are NOT compensated... Because if I was going to compensate a game I simply would not make it play like you say.

If you think they are compensated just stop playing...

Otherwise accept that you're playing a game mathematically and statistically created to make money.. hence you won't always win. And yes on a game when you got a big win you are statistically more likely not to get another big win soon than you are to get one. It's simple maths

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And I'm bored of your inside Knowledge trying to defend online casinos.

Here is the defination of compenstated slots for those that don't know or are unsure : Compensated machines

"Compensated machines vary the chance of winning a prize as a result of the outcome from previous play. Where such a machine is below its target %RTP it may become more generous dependent upon design and vice versa, though the prize distribution is still determined by chance."

The exact behaviour I'm seeing from online play most obvious in Jungle Spirit over hundreds of sessions thousands of spins and I'm not the first to publically suggest this. Ive seen and heard the same suggestion by respected Affiliates both on here, elsewhere and on youtube. Oh and yes its so easy to compensate evry single induvidual player online as the beauty of providing online gaming is each person has their own unique IP address. This is another reason why win dont win big and win big again in short space of time.

The evidence is there I'm just the one not ashamed to highlight it on here or elsewhere for that matter.

Otherwise accept that you're playing a game mathematically and statistically created to make money.. hence you won't always win. And yes on a game when you got a big win you are statistically more likely not to get another big win soon than you are to get one. It's simple maths

And this is yet another contradiction to a statement you have said before suggesting previously that the slots are random and any person can win big and on the very nest spin win big again and again etc.

 

[dogshead1]

@dogshead

alright, fair one. it was a lil cheeky.. and the timing could have been better. but it wasn't aimed at you or anyone specifically. had it only been you who mentioned the that it feels compensated, and that gonzo hadn't said it is 100% compensated i wouldn't have bothered with the reply. As like a lot of my bellend replies, no harm was meant anyway. I just don't believe it would be compensated. (not a question but just thinking out loud when i say...) why would they bother to make one game compensated and the rest not so... if anything (and i am no trancemonkey lol) maybe its the way the maths model or whatever is setup, that gives off that impression. with the constant dead spins on a highly volatile game, making the losses potentially happen at a faster rate. feck knows.
anyway apolagies.. for what it's worth.

Appology accepted

 

[trancemonkey]

And I'm bored of your inside Knowledge trying to defend online casinos.

Here is the defination of compenstated slots for those that don't know or are unsure : Compensated machines

"Compensated machines vary the chance of winning a prize as a result of the outcome from previous play. Where such a machine is below its target %RTP it may become more generous dependent upon design and vice versa, though the prize distribution is still determined by chance."

The exact behaviour I'm seeing from online play most obvious in Jungle Spirit over hundreds of sessions thousands of spins and I'm not the first to publically suggest this. Ive seen and heard the same suggestion by respected Affiliates both on here, elsewhere and on youtube. Oh and yes its so easy to compensate evry single induvidual player online as the beauty of providing online gaming is each person has their own unique IP address. This is another reason why win dont win big and win big again in short space of time.

The evidence is there I'm just the one not ashamed to highlight it on here or elsewhere for that matter.



And this is yet another contradiction to a statement you have said before suggesting previously that the slots are random and any person can win big and on the very nest spin win big again and again etc.

It's not a contradiction at all... You can win big on every spin, you are just statistically a unlikely. You have given zero evidence (evidence is not a feeling - evidence is fact) at all for what you are suggesting. Everything you say is proof of compensation is in fact proof they are not compensated.

If you're so sure, go to the papers. Go to the UKGC. CasinoMeister surely has the power to do so and as you're so adamant they are all rigged, why not take this "proof" you have and show it to the people that can do something about it.

Anyway enjoy your compensated slots. I give up... I'll leave you to it from now on as it is impossible to reason with people that simply don't want to listen.

Take care all

 

[dogshead1]

It's not a contradiction at all... You can win big on every spin, you are just statistically a unlikely. You have given zero evidence (evidence is not a feeling - evidence is fact) at all for what you are suggesting. Everything you say is proof of compensation is in fact proof they are not compensated.

If you're so sure, go to the papers. Go to the UKGC. CasinoMeister surely has the power to do so and as you're so adamant they are all rigged, why not take this "proof" you have and show it to the people that can do something about it.

Anyway enjoy your compensated slots. I give up... I'll leave you to it from now on as it is impossible to reason with people that simply don't want to listen.

Take care all

The only way to get proof is by the casinos or a member of casino staff giving up on such information. All employees sign a confidentiality agreement so it's not worth them letting out any secrets with fear of being sued by the casino.

Pokerstars have admitted in public that their Random shuffle they advertise that's audited only for its shuffle and nothing else is not truly random as they make out. They have also publicly admitted to rigging games and manipulating the deck to speed up MTTs. Yet still nobody has been successful enough in procecuting them because money buys a lot of protection.

Ultimate bet and Full tilt poker had staff who cracked the code and could see players whole cards and cheating hundreds of thousands of players out of money. Authorities were only interested in taking action when it became aware of all the Tax laws they violated in the US and the government chased them for the billions they owed. Now all online poker rooms and casinos operate in jurisdictions that are difficult for any outside government to intervein upon any wrong doing. They can get away with anything.

Only a select few have become extremely greedy and defrauded players through non payment of winnings and account balances shipping their finances to offshore bank account and falsifying their books.

There are many possible ways that casinos can become even more greedy and for these reasons I'm sceptical and extremely wary!

 

[trancemonkey]

The only way to get proof is by the casinos or a member of casino staff giving up on such information. All employees sign a confidentiality agreement so it's not worth them letting out any secrets with fear of being sued by the casino.

Pokerstars have admitted in public that their Random shuffle they advertise that's audited only for its shuffle and nothing else is not truly random as they make out. They have also publicly admitted to rigging games and manipulating the deck to speed up MTTs. Yet still nobody has been successful enough in procecuting them because money buys a lot of protection.

Ultimate bet and Full tilt poker had staff who cracked the code and could see players whole cards and cheating hundreds of thousands of players out of money. Authorities were only interested in taking action when it became aware of all the Tax laws they violated in the US and the government chased them for the billions they owed. Now all online poker rooms and casinos operate in jurisdictions that are difficult for any outside government to intervein upon any wrong doing. They can get away with anything.

Only a select few have become extremely greedy and defrauded players through non payment of winnings and account balances shipping their finances to offshore bank account and falsifying their books.

There are many possible ways that casinos can become even more greedy and for these reasons I'm sceptical and extremely wary!

Totally understand and accept you being wary and I understand why you might think slots are rigged because it can feel like it at times....

And you don't have to believe a word I say... But I didn't have to come on here and share information with you all. No one asked me to. So who put me up to coming on here and lying if I'm not telling the truth as I know it?

Hopefully I can explain more at the next MeisterMeet

 

[duskedamp]

In the last couple of days, i made 3 x 300 € deposits @ Novomatic playing mainly

- Book of Ra Deluxe / Lord of the Ocean
- Lucky Lady's Charm / Dolphins Pearls Deluxe
- Katana
- Indian Spirit
- Fairy Queen
- Pharaos Tomb
- Captain Venture

it took me an average range between 500 - 800 spins to get the free spins
i was betting 50 c mostly - a short time 1 € a spin when i thought "Now it's over 700 spins, the feature is near..."

now guess what... ?

Right, busted three times... even the captain cock sucks major balls these days... after 942 spins he gave me 12 free spins without a retrigger for an unbelievable 16 times bet ! Truly Amazing !
The worst feature was on the lord of the ocean, i get the premium symbol (chest) and had a nice return of 4 times stake...
Best feature was on Book of Ra, 3 retriggers (J Symbol) for a nearly 100 x bet.

But hey, the best thing is i had some money left, so i will buy me a tube of petroleum jelly for my A** that's got raped so hard in the last hours... :xxx

 

[cjohno100]

no wow anymore just pain

i have been playing 32red for a few years not high stakes usually low to middle and up until this year now and again i would get a wow out of it, a decent withdrawal once in a while, i always play immortal romance because sometimes you would hit a really good bonus(wild desire or free spins) or a spell of good bonuses, this year last 8 months all it seems to do is give a long game and keep my rtp up to just over 90% but i very rarely go above my inititial deposit, general scenario is i deposit say 100 my balance goes down to about half then get a few wins to take it back up to just below 100, if i get another bonus when just below my 100 it virtually always give 0. i have not had a withdrawal this year over 100 coins have not had a spell of good bonuses in 8 months, i know i will get the odd random bonus that is ok that keeps me playing longer, wild desire features are worse than thunderstrucks , now i just continually go on take a break, i have probably deposited 4000 this year and never had 1 really good night were im really lucky. i ask chat why havent i had anything for 8 months and they just quote your RTP is 92% etc like it means im lucky. for something so random wouldnt you expect to get a really good spell once in a while, it just seems randomly poor now. RTP is just a stat for casino to quote to make out your doing ok, when all in all ive deposited 4k and had a few withdrawals of 100. my balance has never gone over 200 this year and to think i use to get the odd spell of bonuses/wild desire paying over that, i know you have bad spells and runs of bad luck but 8 months is long. after playing for a good few years i feel like something is totally different in the game play on this slot and others on microgaming. the free spin bonuses are shocking now maybe 1 in 50 you may get something generally most pay 10X or less and i get so many paying 0 i cant remember hardly ever getting 10 spins with 5x wins paying 0 but its become a regular thing now. im on 1 month take a break now hopefully i will lose the urge to play these slots and never go back as they are just total pain now

 

[cjohno100]

ps

i dont mind losing and its something that will happen but it would just be nice to play once this year and actually have a half decent withdrawal and have hope of getting a half decent win, it just doesnt happen anymore lol, suppose to be some excitement at least but i get a bonus or wild desire feature and i just yawn as i know they will not give anything worthwhile to withdraw, 8 months lol must of had 1000s of bonuses and never had anything decent, for something so random its been randomly bad for so long lol

 

[goatwack]

In the last couple of days, i made 3 x 300 € deposits @ Novomatic playing mainly

- Book of Ra Deluxe / Lord of the Ocean
- Lucky Lady's Charm / Dolphins Pearls Deluxe
- Katana
- Indian Spirit
- Fairy Queen
- Pharaos Tomb
- Captain Venture

it took me an average range between 500 - 800 spins to get the free spins
i was betting 50 c mostly - a short time 1 € a spin when i thought "Now it's over 700 spins, the feature is near..."

now guess what... ?

Right, busted three times... even the captain cock sucks major balls these days... after 942 spins he gave me 12 free spins without a retrigger for an unbelievable 16 times bet ! Truly Amazing !
The worst feature was on the lord of the ocean, i get the premium symbol (chest) and had a nice return of 4 times stake...
Best feature was on Book of Ra, 3 retriggers (J Symbol) for a nearly 100 x bet.

But hey, the best thing is i had some money left, so i will buy me a tube of petroleum jelly for my A** that's got raped so hard in the last hours... :xxx

You sound just like Tartaru

 

[trancemonkey]

i have been playing 32red for a few years not high stakes usually low to middle and up until this year now and again i would get a wow out of it, a decent withdrawal once in a while, i always play immortal romance because sometimes you would hit a really good bonus(wild desire or free spins) or a spell of good bonuses, this year last 8 months all it seems to do is give a long game and keep my rtp up to just over 90% but i very rarely go above my inititial deposit, general scenario is i deposit say 100 my balance goes down to about half then get a few wins to take it back up to just below 100, if i get another bonus when just below my 100 it virtually always give 0. i have not had a withdrawal this year over 100 coins have not had a spell of good bonuses in 8 months, i know i will get the odd random bonus that is ok that keeps me playing longer, wild desire features are worse than thunderstrucks , now i just continually go on take a break, i have probably deposited 4000 this year and never had 1 really good night were im really lucky. i ask chat why havent i had anything for 8 months and they just quote your RTP is 92% etc like it means im lucky. for something so random wouldnt you expect to get a really good spell once in a while, it just seems randomly poor now. RTP is just a stat for casino to quote to make out your doing ok, when all in all ive deposited 4k and had a few withdrawals of 100. my balance has never gone over 200 this year and to think i use to get the odd spell of bonuses/wild desire paying over that, i know you have bad spells and runs of bad luck but 8 months is long. after playing for a good few years i feel like something is totally different in the game play on this slot and others on microgaming. the free spin bonuses are shocking now maybe 1 in 50 you may get something generally most pay 10X or less and i get so many paying 0 i cant remember hardly ever getting 10 spins with 5x wins paying 0 but its become a regular thing now. im on 1 month take a break now hopefully i will lose the urge to play these slots and never go back as they are just total pain now

Then protest with your wallet and stop playing games you think are rubbish. There is a huge selection of games in the world... If you don't like any, then don't play

 

[trancemonkey]

In the last couple of days, i made 3 x 300 € deposits @ Novomatic playing mainly

- Book of Ra Deluxe / Lord of the Ocean
- Lucky Lady's Charm / Dolphins Pearls Deluxe
- Katana
- Indian Spirit
- Fairy Queen
- Pharaos Tomb
- Captain Venture

it took me an average range between 500 - 800 spins to get the free spins
i was betting 50 c mostly - a short time 1 € a spin when i thought "Now it's over 700 spins, the feature is near..."

now guess what... ?

Right, busted three times... even the captain cock sucks major balls these days... after 942 spins he gave me 12 free spins without a retrigger for an unbelievable 16 times bet ! Truly Amazing !
The worst feature was on the lord of the ocean, i get the premium symbol (chest) and had a nice return of 4 times stake...
Best feature was on Book of Ra, 3 retriggers (J Symbol) for a nearly 100 x bet.

But hey, the best thing is i had some money left, so i will buy me a tube of petroleum jelly for my A** that's got raped so hard in the last hours... :xxx

So people on here like dogshead1 complain that games are rigged (they aren't) and here you are asking for them to be rigged and complaining they are random...

The game has no idea whether you have had a feature on the previous spin or 1000 spins ago... It doesn't feel sorry for you and decide to give you a big win because you randomly took ages to get the feature..

Make up your mind people... You can't have it both ways!

 

[cjohno100]

Then protest with your wallet and stop playing games you think are rubbish. There is a huge selection of games in the world... If you don't like any, then don't play

i have, if you read i said i am on a month take a break, i was replying to a thread about lost the wow factor and explaining why it has lost the wow for me now, dont need the usual smarmy smart ass comments, keep them to yourself thank you and were i said i think there all rubish i dont know.

 

[trancemonkey]

i have, if you read i said i am on a month take a break, i was replying to a thread about lost the wow factor and explaining why it has lost the wow for me now, dont need the usual smarmy smart ass comments, keep them to yourself thank you and were i said i think there all rubish i dont know.

How exactly is what I said smarmy or smart ass? You were complaining about bonuses on Microgaming games being rubbish now so my advice was if you don't like the games any more, don't play. Nothing smart ass about it.

Quite how you managed to take some friendly advice in that way I don't know, but fine... Have it your way. No further comments from me on anything you post.

 

[Fiekie247]

i have, if you read i said i am on a month take a break, i was replying to a thread about lost the wow factor and explaining why it has lost the wow for me now, dont need the usual smarmy smart ass comments, keep them to yourself thank you and were i said i think there all rubish i dont know.

The Truth hurts

Deal with it and move on - Stop blaming gaming providers.

Basic logic is simple and you should understand it (we do not need to teach you that), the fact that peoples opinion and advise are sounding smart and you feel offensive about it means you clearly not over it.