Looking for someones help and expertise

[vinylweatherman]

I visited his profile and looked under "find all posts". I have not read these threads, but there is obviously a pattern where he wants to establish private contact (PM) with members who are in casino "trouble".

Some samples:



"PM me info I will help you out" (Rushmore)

"Send me your username I will contact right guy and try to speed up your payment." (Cool cat)

"Troops72, I sent you PM, I think I can help you in this matter." (Cool cat)

"You got my PM? " (Palace group)

"Send me PM with the details I will check if I can find some sort of way to talk to them.2 (Virtual casino)

"How much you won? Maybe I can help you. please PM me the details. " (Titan casino)

"Reguest cashout 1st.
Then if you havent got any money till wednesday we can make email to them together.
Send me your skype via PM " (Lock casino)

This is what I did, and I also spotted this pattern. No obvious mention that he would charge, but I expect this is why he was so willing to help so soon, and in so many unrelated cases. He has contacts through being an affiliate, and spotted an opportunity to make some money on the side. Now he has been outed, the opportunity to fleece members here has been lost to him, but I expect he is not ONLY touting these services here, but on many other forums - this could be a "nice little earner" for him on top of his affiliate revenue.

 

[rainmaker]

This is what I did, and I also spotted this pattern. No obvious mention that he would charge, but I expect this is why he was so willing to help so soon, and in so many unrelated cases. He has contacts through being an affiliate, and spotted an opportunity to make some money on the side. Now he has been outed, the opportunity to fleece members here has been lost to him, but I expect he is not ONLY touting these services here, but on many other forums - this could be a "nice little earner" for him on top of his affiliate revenue.

Yes, he is probably active in several forums.

And in this case (this thread) has he obviously contacted the OP directly without posting in this thread. So there are probably even more cases where he has just contacted people direcly. That is bad, because many who post a complaint in this forum are new members.

Anyway, hope Brian keeps him under control

 

[vinylweatherman]

Yes, he is probably active in several forums.

And in this case (this thread) has he obviously contacted the OP directly without posting in this thread. So there are probably even more cases where he has just contacted people direcly. That is bad, because many who post a complaint in this forum are new members.

Anyway, hope Brian keeps him under control

Been done - he has turned red and is now a "banned user". No more offers of help by PM for him


He may try to sneak back under a new username, and this may grant him a brief opportunity before Bryan spots him.

Watch out for the newbie offering help through his various contacts, and perhaps appearing at the start of a holiday/weekend in order to escape detection for as long as possible. He may not even post, but communicate solely through PMs so as not to draw attention to his return.

 

[takethemoney]

Wow, banned so soon? Bryan must have found overwhelming evidence that what was posted is true. He's usually not trigger happy if he doesn't have the facts.

 

[kombucha]

hey all,

this thread really exploded. ( i must be really naive hehe :/ )

the reason i never did PAB was because it had a "no can do" status and since i was new i did not want to waste CM's time on some new guy .. besides that i thought i could manage this on my own but i got stuck so when topaff pm'd me i was really happy. he told me that he did not wanted to recieve anything because he had more then enough.. when the days went by it became more then clear that he had a dubble agenda, but i played along since i thought well finally some progress. it was after i made the withdraw / transaction that i started to ask the casino about him and that just really pissed me of. i was more then willing to give some money for some genuine help ( although i found 1k a bit to much but it was what he asked after i declined to swap the 5k for western union money that he asked for it ). after that he wanted 300 more and i told him no. he got angry and said something like: good luck withdrawing next month by yourself.. ( not in those words but close )

good thing he is banned...

 

[Nifty29]

I hope Bryan circulates his details to every affiliate program on the net.

Let's see how much that $1k is really gonna cost him.

 

[takethemoney]

It would be interesting to hear what Bryan's findings on this matter are and how widespread it was.

 

[vinylweatherman]

hey all,

this thread really exploded. ( i must be really naive hehe :/ )

the reason i never did PAB was because it had a "no can do" status and since i was new i did not want to waste CM's time on some new guy .. besides that i thought i could manage this on my own but i got stuck so when topaff pm'd me i was really happy. he told me that he did not wanted to recieve anything because he had more then enough.. when the days went by it became more then clear that he had a dubble agenda, but i played along since i thought well finally some progress. it was after i made the withdraw / transaction that i started to ask the casino about him and that just really pissed me of. i was more then willing to give some money for some genuine help ( although i found 1k a bit to much but it was what he asked after i declined to swap the 5k for western union money that he asked for it ). after that he wanted 300 more and i told him no. he got angry and said something like: good luck withdrawing next month by yourself.. ( not in those words but close )

good thing he is banned...

The pattern of a deliberate scammer.

Lure you in with a promise of free help, then ask for "help" in exchange, and then screw you for as much as possible.

It seems he might have been trying to scam you out of the 5K that the casino was always willing to pay, and had you agreed, you would either have never seen this "western union money", or you would have been party to a money laundering scam, your clean 5K for his dirty 5k.

The fact that the casino was entertaining the idea of allowing him to handle your money is VERY worrying. Even though Max acts as a mediator, he does NOT receive the money due to the player as some kind of "middleman" - the casino is expected to deal direct with the player in this respect.

I suspect the quick action was as a result of the casino discussing with Bryan the idea that TopAff worked for him, and how they got that idea from dealing with TopAff.

 

[takethemoney]

Looks like Bottomaff screwed the pooch for a bit too long.

 

[Rhyzz]

Funny thing is, he's obviously not very good at what he does because he only got you $5k

 

[The Viking]

Funny thing is, he's obviously not very good at what he does because he only got you $5k

well he probably didnt care how much his client got as long he got his share

 

[kombucha]

he has sent me an email he was going to send it back, once i'll recieve the funds i'll let you guys know

 

[Casinomeister]

Topaff was your proverbial ambulance chaser. He would seek out members who were having issues with certain casinos and try to assist.

Helping each other out - I have no problem with this, but when one does this with an agenda at hand - those are grounds for expulsion. Topaff clearly crossed the line from being helpful to misrepresenting himself.

He was convincing the casino reps for Class1casino that he would have them removed from the rogue section if they would resolve the OP's issue with them. Included in the negotiation was an affiliate deal and $$ from kombucha.

Topaff has informed me that he is paying kombucha back. He should have never taken or accepted the money in the first place. That's profiteering off of a victim - unethical and downright scumlike.

It seems that he was running his own private PAB service in the forum. If there are any others who have had the same experience, they need to contact me via PM. Thanks!

 

[3mptyseat]

I asked for help...

I heard thru another aff that he had a good relationship with Villento (which makes more and more sense as the days go by) and that maybe he could help with a bank wire that they claim they sent 2+ weeks ago...

So I pm'd him. And the referring aff said just after I contacted him; "First thing he asked was, 'Is the player a woman?'" I knew something was up.

Then came his reply. "Whats ur favorite game, how much have you deposited this year, whats ur account number, and ur address?"

My retort, "I'm not comfy with answering those q's. Why do u need that info?" as I forwarded the pm's to the meister man...

His reply,

LOL, if I was a flim flammer, I would strive to be better than this...

 

[Casinomeister]

I can't stress this more: do not give out private information to other members unless you have reason or are willing to trust them 100%.

If anyone is soliciting information, the mods and I need to know.

 

[ilovejesus]

hello

hi every one this is a wolf in sheeps clothing, theres one thing i hate when mess about with other peoples bread and butters, this buy should be banned for life

 

[kombucha]

ok so a quick update:

ToppA.. is going to send me the money the 12th of this month ( he told me )
WE or well ...ehmm ,me. have decided to give the 1K to charity. I looked at the CM donate list and 2 of them got my atention: 1st : ronald macdonald house , 2nd : The ICS ... ( is it egoistic to give back to those who you know of 1st hand, do a great job? ... )

IF You know of an organisation who you think needs that money more.. let us know in this topic

 

[BingoT]

My three picks in the order.
St. Jude Children's Research Hospital
March of Dimes for Babies
Paralyzed Veterans of America

 

[kombucha]

THX BingoT ...

keep em coming ppl

 

[lots0]

Your local Food Bank.

 

[kombucha]

Your local Food Bank.

that would be occured tho

 

[kombucha]

so, still waiting for "ToppAff" to pay back that money :/

 

[Gremmyboy]

so, still waiting for "ToppAff" to pay back that money :/

Have you even heard from him? Email? Phone?

(I was of the opinion that he was going to do the MoneyBookers/Western Union thing to get his grubby hands on the entire $5000 and leave you with nothing! SCUM!)

Did he get his comeuppance from the Meister other than being banned? Just curious if they found out who he really was and caused some trouble for him.....Affiliate accounts closed....Casinos dropping him...etc...?

Cheers
Gremmy

 

[kombucha]

Have you even heard from him? Email? Phone?

(I was of the opinion that he was going to do the MoneyBookers/Western Union thing to get his grubby hands on the entire $5000 and leave you with nothing! SCUM!)

Did he get his comeuppance from the Meister other than being banned? Just curious if they found out who he really was and caused some trouble for him.....Affiliate accounts closed....Casinos dropping him...etc...?

Cheers
Gremmy

He emails me, and it's always alot of bs :S he told me like 3 times already the money is being paid right now. then i tell him he didn't do shit and then he replies with something like "hmss let me check if everything went ok "

He was banned the next day, the casino tells me they don't trust him and bryan here told sven pubicly in this forum before he got banned "sven if this is true you are in a world of hurt" ...well he's still running his site 24/7 and when i pm the big boss he tells me it's between me and "the webmaster" which is "topaff" in this case..

 

[kombucha]

So after a long time waiting i can honestly say that "topaff" is a real fucking asshole. i have like 30 emails from him saying he will pay me back next week but he never does. His name isn't sven it's tomi and he lives in finland. He stole like 2.5k from a diff person i'm in contact with and there is prob more ppl who got fcked over. Somehow we got hold of his phone number but it's no help he's just full of shit. watch out for this guy...

p.s
i mentioned somewhere that he runs the site bankrollking.com well he doesn't he just said he did.