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Looking for a Casino like BetFair

Discussion in 'Online Casinos' started by LB1410, Dec 29, 2008.

    Dec 29, 2008
  1. LB1410

    LB1410 Dormant account

    Occupation:
    Student
    Location:
    England
    There welcome bonus wasn't the greatest (Match up to 50.00), but even if you don't meet the WR they still let you keep the profit you make, by using the bonus money to play with.

    I deposited 50.00 they matched it and with my 100.00 balance I managed to make a nice 300 profit over a few days.

    I was just wondering if anyone knows of any online casino where this would also be possible. (To keep the profit made by using their bonus money even if you DON'T meet the WR.)

    (I'm also willing to use your REFERAL code, or any affiliate link that may get you a bit of profit, if you can point me in the right direction.)

    Thanks alot. :)
     
  2. Dec 29, 2008
  3. mrcj

    mrcj Dormant account

    Occupation:
    s/e
    Location:
    sheffield
    casno bonuses

    hi, there are quite a few offers out there which are better than the one you have mentioned, have you googled casino bonuses??
     
  4. Dec 29, 2008
  5. Norseman1

    Norseman1 Banned User

    Occupation:
    Retail
    Location:
    Norway
    Bonuses

    Sometines the best bonuses are not offered by the best casinos be very careful.
     
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  6. Dec 29, 2008
  7. chuchu59

    chuchu59 gambling addict CAG PABnonaccred

    Occupation:
    EXECUTIVE
    Location:
    SOMEWHERE IN ASIA
    Congratulations on your win but honestly, I dont think they should have allowed you to keep the winnings without meeting the WRs. Some players will take notice, get the bonus and bet big. He bets the whole bankroll on BJ or Baccarat and gets a 200% profit on his bet and he can quote your case and say that if your withdrawal was allowed why not his. It would be difficult to refuse the player. Dont get me wrong. I like Betfair as with most 'Bet' casinos like Betfred, Betway and Bet365. However, I just tend to think there would be repercussions if they continue to allow this.

    Actually, why are you insistent on not meeting the WRs unless you truly want to abuse bonuses. If I am correct, you will never visit an online twice since there is only one SUB anywhere.
     
  8. Dec 29, 2008
  9. LB1410

    LB1410 Dormant account

    Occupation:
    Student
    Location:
    England
    I'm not looking to abuse any bonuses, as that will only land me in trouble.

    I try and meet the WR, but incase I don't - i don't want any potential profits to be wasted if you catch my drift?
     
  10. Dec 29, 2008
  11. aka23

    aka23 Dormant account

    Occupation:
    Technical
    Location:
    Planet Earth
    Most casinos that offer a bonus require you to complete wagering to make a widthdrawal. However, there are a few that permit you to cashout winnings (not the bonus itself), at any time. Examples include casinos that still have the traditional Microgaming Clearplay rules such as the Jackpot Factory group, Roxy/Splendido group, Betway, Vegas Towers, etc.
     
  12. Dec 30, 2008
  13. LB1410

    LB1410 Dormant account

    Occupation:
    Student
    Location:
    England
    Yep that is what I am after, many thanks.

    I googled Vegas Towers at random and found this:
    You must register/login in order to see the link.
    Deposit between 20 and 50 and we will match that amount up to 50 in free cash with no play-through requirements, no game exclusions and hassle-free redemption
    For example:
    Buy 20 in casino chips - Play with 40!
    Buy 50 in casino chips - Play with 100!

    Any catch??
     
  14. Dec 30, 2008
  15. aka23

    aka23 Dormant account

    Occupation:
    Technical
    Location:
    Planet Earth
    It's not a withdrawable bonus (which you'd expect given my earlier comments). The Fortune Lounge group also has a poor history with bonuses and an "irregular play" statement in their T&C. However, I wouldn't expect you to run into related issues.
     
  16. Dec 30, 2008
  17. LB1410

    LB1410 Dormant account

    Occupation:
    Student
    Location:
    England
    Okay, correct me if i'm wrong and excuse my ignorance, but...

    ..Am I right in saying that if I deposited 50, so I'm playing with 100.
    I then go on to make say a further 100, so my balance would be 200.

    Would I then be allowed to withdraw 150, and forfeit the 50 bonus?

    As long as I can withdraw money made by using their bonus, then that would suit me. Many thanks
     
  18. Dec 30, 2008
  19. KasinoKing

    KasinoKing WebMeister & Slotaholic.. CAG MM PABnonaccred webmeister

    Occupation:
    House-Husband and Casino Advisor
    Location:
    Bexhill on sea, England
    Yes, you can cash in at any time & forfeit the balance of your bonus:

    For every 300 wagered, 10 bonus chips are converted to withdrawable cash (bearing in mind the different % each game counts in WR)

    But I hope you are not planing to use the bonus to help you win by betting your entire balance (or most of it) on one double-up bet. If you do a double-up bet you are leaving yourself open to the "Bonus abuse" or "irregular play" terms in their T&C's:-


    There are virtually no totally risk-free bonuses anywhere on the net these days.
    Casinos are not charities, and it is called "gambling" for a reason... :p

    Good luck! :cheers:
    KK
     
  20. Dec 30, 2008
  21. LB1410

    LB1410 Dormant account

    Occupation:
    Student
    Location:
    England
    Nope.

    Is that when for instance people put 100 each on odd or even on roulette, or something like that? If so, then nope i've never done that and never will.

    I just make bets on Roulette and Blackjack using my common sense. Sometimes they are low bets, sometimes I increase them depending how I feel.
     
  22. Dec 30, 2008
  23. KasinoKing

    KasinoKing WebMeister & Slotaholic.. CAG MM PABnonaccred webmeister

    Occupation:
    House-Husband and Casino Advisor
    Location:
    Bexhill on sea, England
    Nope. It's more like placing your whole balance of 200 on Red.
    Lose & you've lost 100 (Your original deposit)
    Win & you've won 200 (You'd have 400 and could cash-out 300 = 200 profit)

    That's why casinos specifically ban this type of betting.

    KK
     
  24. Dec 30, 2008
  25. LB1410

    LB1410 Dormant account

    Occupation:
    Student
    Location:
    England
    Oh right, okay - thanks for clearing it up.

    I'm about to deposit money on the casino WildJack, as someone suggested in this topic.
    But will I definatly be able to withdraw money, incase I don't meet the WR.

    You must register/login in order to see the link.

    Regular Players must playthrough the bonus 30 times before it is transferred into their cash balance.

    It is part of the "ClearPlay" bonus system. As long as any profit made is in my cash balance, the bonus is of secondary importance to me.
     
  26. Dec 30, 2008
  27. KasinoKing

    KasinoKing WebMeister & Slotaholic.. CAG MM PABnonaccred webmeister

    Occupation:
    House-Husband and Casino Advisor
    Location:
    Bexhill on sea, England
    Yes.
    (According tho their T&C's, early withdrawal in not prohibited).

    Your questions have prompted me to add an extra column to my 'MG Flexi-Bonus Unravelled' tables at the bottom of all my recommended casinos pages, saying whether full WR is required at each of the MG's I list, or not.
    Thanks for giving me several more hours of going cross-eyed reading masses of T&C's! :p

    KK
     
    Last edited: Dec 30, 2008
  28. Dec 31, 2008
  29. LB1410

    LB1410 Dormant account

    Occupation:
    Student
    Location:
    England
    Many thanks, made a bit of profit on their today.
    And haha, at least your site will benefit in the long run :thumbsup:

    It seems that casino's where you can cash out at any time without meeting the WR, are very few and far between :mad:

    I found another one earlier though, ToteSport.
     
  30. Dec 31, 2008
  31. aka23

    aka23 Dormant account

    Occupation:
    Technical
    Location:
    Planet Earth
    Unless they've changed something recently, you will be able to. They mean that you need to wager 30x to cashout the bonus. However, you still have the option to withdraw early and not cashout the bonus. I list Clearplays that permit early withdrawal in the bonus tables on my site as "0xB / ..." wagering. Note that some groups casinos restrict early withdrawal on their sign-up bonus, but permit it on reloads.
     
  32. Nov 17, 2010
  33. jstrike

    jstrike Dormant account

    Occupation:
    Programmer & Designer
    Location:
    Europe
    As a coder, I'm curious how they distinguish winnings out of bonuses from winnings out of deposits. I mean, how do you fairly say which they were playing? Do they make all bets "bonus bets" until the entire playthrough is cleared? That seems absurd, because in reality the winnings are inevitably going to compound.

    The system I made up for the site I'm building is:
    - Player's total bets are recorded in real time.
    - Bonuses have to be played through 15 times (B = 15).
    - Deposits have to be played through 1x to get the entire thing back, 1/B (6.67%) is withheld from deposits on whatever isn't played.

    Naturally, it's all pooled together like it should be:

    withholding = ((deposits-withdrawals)+(bonuses*B)-totalbets) / B

    So all winnings belong to the player right away, and most of the deposit can be taken out right away. Of course, I'm only planning on offering 25% or less for signups ;)
     
  34. Nov 19, 2010
  35. vinylweatherman

    vinylweatherman You type well loads CAG MM

    Occupation:
    STILL At Leisure
    Location:
    United Kingdom

    So, I could deposit 100, get 25, and then withdraw my 100. Intercasino started out this way, but had to change as more and more players spotted the loophole:D

    With MGS, it doesn't REALLY work like this, the transfer of increments of 10 from bonus to cash is merely a display device that runs from the total of weighted wagers made since the bonus was credited. The code does not have to worry whether bets came from cash, bonus, or a mixture of both.
     
  36. Nov 20, 2010
  37. Nifty29

    Nifty29 Dormant account

    Occupation:
    PAID CASINO SHILL
    Location:
    Turn right, then right. then right again
    I believe Betfair are running an excellent unlimited weekend bonus promotion at the moment with very low WR.......
     
  38. Nov 20, 2010
  39. Jufo

    Jufo Three-toed sloth

    Occupation:
    Teacher
    Location:
    Finland
    Yes, well last week's happy hour promo DID mention that the same promo will be repeated every Saturday from 9 PM to 12 PM so pile in folks!
     

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