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Limitated stakes - Bonus issues

Discussion in 'Online Casinos' started by Roulettemaus, Aug 21, 2010.

    Aug 21, 2010
  1. Roulettemaus

    Roulettemaus Dormant account

    near Cologne

    I new here and I have a question to discuss:

    I opened a new account at red flush casino and got a bonus of 150 Euro.
    Terms of use announce limitated stakes of 30% bonus for each single bet.

    What does this mean?
    If I bet on roulettes on 2 dozens:
    may I put 45 Euro on each dozen?
    Or may I put only 22 Euro on each dozen?

    (Please excuse my bad english, but english is not my mother-language)

    Thank you giving me advice!
  2. Aug 21, 2010
  3. coxwel

    coxwel Senior Member PABnononaccred MM

    if you bet 45 ou would brake their rules.

    youre allowed to bet 30% of your deposit amount! while playing with your bonus.


  4. Aug 21, 2010
  5. Jasminebed

    Jasminebed Closer to 100 than Birth

    Not in workforce
    That would mean no more than 30 percent of the bonus per spin of the roulette wheel, per dealer hand of Multi-hand BJ, etc.
  6. Aug 21, 2010
  7. KasinoKing

    KasinoKing WebMeister & Slotaholic.. CAG MM PABnonaccred webmeister

    House-Husband and Casino Advisor
    Bexhill on sea, England
    No he wouldn't.
    €45 is his maximum bet per spin.
    Only if he bet more than €45 per spin would the rules be broken.
    €150 x 30% = €45.

    Similarly if playing Multi-hand Blackjack the max is 30% of the bonus in total - not 30% on each hand.
    There was a case here about 6 months ago where a player lost out betting his whole bankroll across 5 hands of BJ.

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  8. Aug 21, 2010
  9. Roulettemaus

    Roulettemaus Dormant account

    near Cologne
    Thanks a lot to coxwel, Jasminebed and KasinoKing for your answers.
    Now I know: I may only bet 30% per spin, not per single number or per column!


  10. Aug 21, 2010
  11. gamblingmace

    gamblingmace Dormant account

    no, you are wrong. you may bet only 29% of the bonus amount. if you bet 30% the casino can steal ooooops sorry I mean confiscate your winnings. well, it would almost be a kind of stealing because some microgaming casinos dont let you bet bigger than you are allowed to bet when you play with a bonus. for example the sites of the jackpot factory group have implemented this so that the player cant do anything wrong whereas other microgaming sites and groups havent done so yet. for example the casino rewards group allows their players to break the max bet rule and when they do so they confiscate the winnings. this is not fair, is it? recently a huge win was confiscated. the poor guy who wasnt paid posted the story on this forum.
  12. Aug 22, 2010
  13. Simmo!

    Simmo! Moderator Staff Member

    Web Dev.
    It is also worth pointing out that, while 29% (or whatever) may be within the rules, making 3 big bets right on the limit of acceptability on Roulette, using a bonus, night be seen as indicative of an "advantage player". Whether that will give you problems if you win I'm not sure but it would be more sensible/safer IMO to make bets of say 20euros or something IMO.
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  14. Aug 22, 2010
  15. liquuid_fusion

    liquuid_fusion Meister Member PABnorogue PABnononaccred2 PABaccred

    Also be careful if you play blackjack, 3 card poker or some other game where bets can be raised. If you raise your bet (eg double down on blackjack) and this brings you over 30% of the bonus you will be deemed to have broken the rules.
  16. Aug 22, 2010
  17. winbig

    winbig Keep winning this amount.

    Sorry, but while this is true, then why do they have the 30% rule in place? :rolleyes:

    If they really wanted to cover their butt, then they would exclude roulette altogether....

    What if you played 29% of the bonus on blackjack 3 hands in a row?

    And what happens when you get down to having $3 left of the bonus and make a $1 bet? Can they steal your winnings then, too, for betting > 30% of the bonus? :)
  18. Aug 22, 2010
  19. rouletteguy

    rouletteguy Experienced Member

    not for profit director addictions
    The rule was developed and implemented because bonus players would come in and make 2-3 huge bets and then back off and resign themselves to low stakes play in order to meet the w/r. I got screwed by this rule myself, or rather..........a minor but major variation. A casino made a few mistakes in processing so also credited an extra 25 to my 200 bonus as soon as i discovered i was bound to 8 dollar max bet as opposed to the 66 dollars I shoulda had it was too late because i had already started playing. It seemed rather shady to me. Thank's Royal Vegas for adding yourself to my list of sneaky casino's.

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