Legalized Online Gambling to the USA?

grex23

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Hi all. When do you think we will see legalized online gambling to the USA?

The casinos have all since been cutoff from payment processing and it won't be long before the last casinos will get busted which accept American bets.

Dice3d supposedly has shut down USA accounts after the latest busts which had a legal physical land based Casino in Antwerp.

I have no problem with legitimate casinos opening up where people play the game of chance as long as they are credible entities. But in the USA, the gambling laws seem to all be done to prevent competition and are all in violation of the interstate commerce clause.

Sad to see the current state of events whereby the Federal Government is taking down sites without actually legalizing it or regulating it.

The Unlawful gambling act I argue is unconstitutional and in violation of the interstate commerce clause. However no one seems to be challenging this or allowing online gambling at the state level.
 

grex23

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You mean 3 dice ?

Where did you get the information about them shutting down accounts?

Oh and welcome to CM.

Meant 3 dice. And I am not sure if they have stop accepting USA accounts but there is no way with them to move any payments to USA customers for withdrawls and I presume also for deposits.

The DOJ was using undercover payment processors and literally in the last few weeks has shut down an untold number of sites so the industry seems to have been drying up as of late with the last few contenders operating on shady lines who will unfortunately be the next casualties in the marketplace.
 

FreeDomme

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Please define "Credible Entity".

I find several casinos that will never make a sanctioned list to be credible. And if the playing field were level the likes of Bally's or Caesers or MGM would not stand a chance.
 

Nifty29

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Meant 3 dice. And I am not sure if they have stop accepting USA accounts but there is no way with them to move any payments to USA customers for withdrawls and I presume also for deposits.

The DOJ was using undercover payment processors and literally in the last few weeks has shut down an untold number of sites so the industry seems to have been drying up as of late with the last few contenders operating on shady lines who will unfortunately be the next casualties in the marketplace.

So you just made it up. Nice.

I'm sure 3dice appreciates the misinformation, as do the members.
 

grex23

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Please define "Credible Entity".

I find several casinos that will never make a sanctioned list to be credible. And if the playing field were level the likes of Bally's or Caesers or MGM would not stand a chance.

Credible as in non fly by night and adhering to the best gaming standards.

Atlantic City, Las Vegas, New York, Midwest Casinos, Indian Reservation Casinos, casinos abroad in nations like Singapore, and even in nations like Europe such as Belgium which have excellent reputations and various other nations too numerous to list.

Such doesn't have to be "LAND BASED" per say as long as they maintain physical offices and transparency that can be successfully audited.

Credible means credible. I realize one can define it various ways but I am not excluding non land based casinos or competition in the global marketplace from abroad.

Right now the payment processing system seems to be one sided because it seems to be more of a power grab for the big casinos to avoid losing revenue rather than to adhere to making sure consumers don't get ripped off.

IGT and other software and casinos which are legitimate in nature with legitimate casinos running those facilities have every right to compete in the online marketplace today.
 

Nifty29

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I would like to report this post because I sense something but I would also like to know what happens to deleted posts. Is there a membership level where they are accessible?

I know what you mean Domme - I'm getting the same vibe.

I don't believe posts are deleted unless it's a very serious circumstance, and once they are gone they are gone AFAIK.
 

lots0

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Added... Your information is incorrect... there is currently legalized online gambling in the United States.
 

Gremmyboy

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Meant 3 dice. And I am not sure if they have stop accepting USA accounts but there is no way with them to move any payments to USA customers for withdrawls and I presume also for deposits.

The DOJ was using undercover payment processors and literally in the last few weeks has shut down an untold number of sites so the industry seems to have been drying up as of late with the last few contenders operating on shady lines who will unfortunately be the next casualties in the marketplace.


Are you fishing for info?:what:;)

'My spidey sense is tingling'

Cheers
Gremmy
 

Casinomeister

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Online gambling is legal in the US. Just so long as it's horse/dog racing or intra-state gambling. The UIGEA set this up. :rolleyes:

But the same bill makes payment processing difficult for gaming companies to do business with their players - that's the main issue.

As for deleting posts, I'm a little puzzled why this has been brought up in this thread - I didn't see a reference to it while doing my speed reading :p

To clarify things, we don't delete threads in most circumstances - our policy is posted in the FAQs here:
https://www.casinomeister.com/forum-faq/forum-policies/
 

FreeDomme

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I believe grexx to be a serial offender. If he is who I think he is, many of his statements have been obliterated along with his posting privileges (elsewhere) and I hope that will not be the case when you ID him here.

Online gambling is legal in the US. Just so long as it's horse/dog racing or intra-state gambling. The UIGEA set this up. :rolleyes:

But the same bill makes payment processing difficult for gaming companies to do business with their players - that's the main issue.

As for deleting posts, I'm a little puzzled why this has been brought up in this thread - I didn't see a reference to it while doing my speed reading :p

To clarify things, we don't delete threads in most circumstances - our policy is posted in the FAQs here:
https://www.casinomeister.com/forum-faq/forum-policies/
 

lots0

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Online gambling is legal in the US. Just so long as it's horse/dog racing or intra-state gambling. The UIGEA set this up. :rolleyes:

But the same bill makes payment processing difficult for gaming companies to do business with their players - that's the main issue....
You forgot about Washington D.C.
Online casino gambling is now legal there... And because it is 'legal' the UGIEA does not apply to residents of Washington D.C.
 

FreeDomme

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You forgot about Washington D.C.
Online casino gambling is now legal there... And because it is 'legal' the UGIEA does not apply to residents of Washington D.C.

State by state, there are legal illegal and undefined jurisdictions. To argue that the UIGEA can apply to state law is ludicrous. It applies only to federal law of which there is none except against sports. According to the courts anyway, imagined or otherwise online gambling is not illegal at the federal level anywhere.
 

lots0

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State by state, there are legal illegal and undefined jurisdictions. To argue that the UIGEA can apply to state law is ludicrous. It applies only to federal law of which there is none except against sports. According to the courts anyway, imagined or otherwise online gambling is not illegal at the federal level anywhere.
First of all Washington D. C. is not a state.

Second.. you forgot about the Wire Act.

Third... The UGIEA is triggered by State law...

Finally This entire conversation keeps creeping me out.
Suddenly after the QT fiasco there are 'experts' in gambling law... all over the place.

Call me paranoid... but this Teddy is not feeling comfortable with this discussion.
I am outta here..
 

secret2

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WAIT! Before you go

First of all Washington D. C. is not a state.

Second.. you forgot about the Wire Act.

Third... The UGIEA is triggered by State law...

Finally This entire conversation keeps creeping me out.
Suddenly after the QT fiasco there are 'experts' in gambling law... all over the place.

Call me paranoid... but this Teddy is not feeling comfortable with this discussion.
I am outta here..

Why not take advantage of these experts while they're here and ask for some really, really helpful tax tips for FREE??? Yay.

Anyone?...HEY?? where d'ya go??

It was just a question...

...sheesh! SOME people!:(
 

rockycatt

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step away from the key board and get back on room air

Meant 3 dice. And I am not sure if they have stop accepting USA accounts but there is no way with them to move any payments to USA customers for withdrawls and I presume also for deposits.

The DOJ was using undercover payment processors and literally in the last few weeks has shut down an untold number of sites so the industry seems to have been drying up as of late with the last few contenders operating on shady lines who will unfortunately be the next casualties in the marketplace.

we are ok to gamble on line in the usa -------------..

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FreeDomme

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First of all Washington D. C. is not a state.

Second.. you forgot about the Wire Act.

Third... The UGIEA is triggered by State law...

Finally This entire conversation keeps creeping me out.
Suddenly after the QT fiasco there are 'experts' in gambling law... all over the place.

Call me paranoid... but this Teddy is not feeling comfortable with this discussion.
I am outta here..

DC is not relevant let them eat their own snake.

2: I was speaking of the Wire Act, it applies ONLY to sports betting as far as any case law applies.

Third: It is not and can not be triggered by state law without a precedence set by a Superior Court judge. Illegal gambling in a federal law can ONLY refer to a federal crime.

Your lawyers are not smart enough, get someone else.
 

rockycatt

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secret it real as can be i wondering why theres no affs on here ive been a member

Well, I can beat that! I just got .an email from King.com to win an 'amazing' $17000! (sorry don't know how to post pretty shots such as yours, Rocky).

I might just play :p (herhum..for free , of course)

:)

as the stooges said to the judge honest he is honest your honer :p:p

i wish i knew how to be a aff would = less wine and more income :D wat iget for being a carpenter :notworthy
 
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