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Discussion in 'Online Casinos' started by wobble33, Nov 28, 2013.

    Nov 28, 2013
  1. wobble33

    wobble33 Senior Member

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    Hi guys

    does anyone know if the bonuses at Ladbrokes VEGAS are sticky? I have completed the w/r, and the bonus is not withdrawable but my balance was. so I cashout my balance after completing the w/r, and the bonus money disappeared!

    in the terms it does say the bonus is non redeemable, but I cant believe lads would have a sticky welcome bonus on playtech now? any idea guys? many thanks..

    in the terms

    4. The sum awarded to for each bonus is non-redeemable, unless stated otherwise in the supplemental Terms and Conditions
     
    Last edited: Nov 29, 2013
  2. Nov 29, 2013
  3. wobble33

    wobble33 Senior Member

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    WOW cant believe it...

    just had a chat with cs, the bonus is sticky! that's unreal off lads for a 30 wr d/b...
     
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  4. Nov 29, 2013
  5. KasinoKing

    KasinoKing WebMeister & Slotaholic.. CAG MM PABnonaccred webmeister

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    Wow - they really HAVE lost the plot. :(
    I just added Lads Vegas to my site a couple of days back - but I thought the bonus was cashable (the T&Cs don't say - but theirs have ALWAYS been cashable).
    Looks like their stay on my site will be a very short one! ;)

    KK
     
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  6. Nov 29, 2013
  7. Tirilej

    Tirilej Still a Lady CAG MM

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    Now I don't play there but I got a great offer yesterday :rolleyes:

    To chose between 20-40% bonus, and they called them huge :p

    I'm sure they are not cashable either...
     
  8. Nov 29, 2013
  9. DepositSpinLose

    DepositSpinLose Experienced Member

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    a first for me

    :eek: a STICKY bonus from mg? sounds and smells like SHYT sticking to my ASS!

    LOL sorry but I have never ever seen/heard this from mg casinos. yah fo sho and this from a giant casino??!!! my eye! No wait......my Ass!
     
  10. Nov 29, 2013
  11. maphesto

    maphesto Ueber Meister CAG MM webmeister

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    Ladbrokes Vegas is their Playtech brand! ;)
     
  12. Nov 29, 2013
  13. DepositSpinLose

    DepositSpinLose Experienced Member

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    wow thats my big foot in my mouth

    sorry, my spouse plays at lads so I didn't pay much attention....feel stupid thank you. thought for sure it was mg





    pt never has a cashable bonus as far as I have played them for 7-8 years
     
  14. Nov 29, 2013
  15. KasinoKing

    KasinoKing WebMeister & Slotaholic.. CAG MM PABnonaccred webmeister

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    Ladbrokes DO have an MG casino - which they have had since the early 2000's.
    But a few months ago they ADDED a Playtech casino as well.
    I've heard they will be leaving MG altogether around March next year - which will be almost exactly a year since they stopped taking any new MG games. IMHO this will be a total DISASTER for Ladbrokes - but it's their funeral...

    Most Playtechs only have stupid phantom bonuses, but there are a handful who have cashable ones - usually the ones who are attached to Sportsbooks, which makes it even more surprising that Lads have chosen to do this.

    KK
     
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  16. Nov 29, 2013
  17. wobble33

    wobble33 Senior Member

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    they are a bit sly here. you have to look right at the bottom of the terms on the bonus page. then click another link to find out they are non redeemable..

    To see our full General Bonus Terms and Conditions please click here....

    when you click that link, now look at other terms.....
    GENERAL BONUS TERMS AND CONDITIONS
    1. Bonuses cannot be used in conjunction with any other promotion and cannot be exchanged for any cash equivalent, unless specifically noted in our communication or approved by the Ladbrokes Vegas. Offers can only be used once and are not transferable or assignable. If you no longer wish to receive bonuses from us, please contact Customer Services.
    2. Deposit Bonuses are only available to customers who make a fresh deposit during the running of the promotion. Transfers from other wallets will not qualify. Only one deposit bonus is awarded per person, household, shared computer or shared IP address, unless stated otherwise in the promotion offer.
    3. The Wagering Requirements for any bonus must be met within thirty (30) days of your bonus becoming active, unless stated otherwise in the supplemental Terms and Conditions.
    4. The sum awarded to for each bonus is non-redeemable, unless stated otherwise in the supplemental Terms and Conditions.
    5. Customers who already have funds in their Ladbrokes Vegas Balance may not be eligible to receive bonuses. Funds already present in the account will be tied into the wagering requirements of credited bonuses.
    6. PLEASE NOTE that upon accepting a deposit bonus you agree that the funds you have deposited and the bonus itself is bound by wagering requirements; any attempt to withdraw/transfer these funds will result in forfeiting this bonus including all accrued winnings relating to this bonus if such requirements have not been fulfilled completely.
    7. Promotional offers are only applicable to your account on Ladbrokes Vegas. You will not be able to transfer your deposit or any winnings to any of our products (e.g. Sport, Casino, Bingo or Poker) before wagering requirements have been fulfilled completely.



    WAGERING REQUIREMENTS
    8. The Wagering Requirements for any Deposit Bonus are as follows - You must wager an amount equal to thirty (30) times the Deposit amount plus Bonus amount awarded to you unless stated otherwise in the supplemental Terms and Conditions.
    9. Not all bets will count towards the wagering requirements, unless expressly stated otherwise in the relevant supplemental Terms and Conditions. Please see in the table below for game weight distribution for all wagering purposes.



    Games

    Game Weight Distribution


    Slots (all varieties)

    100%


    Scratch Cards (all varieties)

    100%


    Pai Gow (all varieties), Red Dog, Let it Ride

    25%


    Casino Hold'Em (all varieties)

    25%


    Roulette low risk

    0%


    Roulette med risk

    20%


    Roulette high risk

    50%


    Baccarat (all varieties)

    20%


    Blackjack (all varieties excluding Blackjack switch & Pontoon)

    20%


    Stravaganza

    20%


    Craps (all varieties), Sic Bo (all varieties)

    20%


    Video Poker (all varieties)

    20%


    Blackjack Switch , Pontoon (all varieties)

    5%


    All double options on Slots & Video Poker (all varieties)

    0%


    All other games

    100%



    10. Roulette wagering requirements are as follows: a. High coverage bets (low risk) will contribute 0% towards your wagering requirements. High coverage Roulette bets are bet spread combinations covering 60% or more of the table.
    b. Medium coverage bets (medium risk) will contribute 20% towards your wagering requirements. Medium coverage Roulette bets are bet spread combinations covering 10% or more of the table but less than 60%.
    c. Low coverage bets (high risk) will contribute 50% towards your wagering requirements. Low coverage Roulette bets are bet spread combinations covering less than 10% of the table.




    The below Roulette games will contribute 0% towards your wagering requirements:




    3D Roulette Premium

    BW-EuropeanRoulette

    Live Roulette Mobile

    Live Mini Roulette

    Live Roulette pro

    Mini Roulette (GTS)

    Multi Wheel Roulette

    Pinball Roulette

    Premier Roulette

    Roulette Tournament

    Video Roulette


    11. Currency rates for wagering purposes will be calculated according to this table:




    Currency

    GBP

    EUR

    USD

    CAD

    CHF

    SGD

    AUD

    NZD

    ZAR

    SEK

    THB

    RUB

    HKD

    DKK

    NOK

    JPY


    Rate

    1

    1

    1

    1

    1

    1

    1

    1

    10

    10

    30

    32

    7.5

    7.5

    7.5

    95



    12. BE ADVISED that your deposit is wagered first; once fully wagered, you will start wagering on the promotion/bonus.
    13. The Wagering Requirements for any Additional Bonus (i.e. Refund, Prize, Extra reward/Bonus, Cashback, bonus back, tournament winnings and race winnings) are as follows - You must wager an amount equal to thirty (30) times the additional Bonus awarded to you, unless stated otherwise in the supplemental Terms and Conditions.



    FREE PLAY BONUSES (I.E. NO DEPOSIT REQUIRED)
    14. For Registration bonuses, free spins and Free bonuses which require NO deposit, note that no winnings at all may be withdrawn/transferred until you have transferred at least £10 into your Player Account. In addition, no winnings accrued in connection with any Free Bonus may be withdrawn/transferred until the wagering requirements have been met.
    15. The maximum winnings that will be paid out resulting from a free bonus (or free spins) will be £100 (even if the amount of winnings accrued by you utilizing this bonus is in excess of this amount).
    16. All Free bonuses that are not tied to any deposit or transferred funds will result in a max cash-out of no more than four (4) times the bonus amount.
    17. The Wagering Requirements for Free and Registration bonuses are thirty (30) times the Bonus sum awarded to you, unless stated otherwise in the supplemental Terms and Conditions.



    PROMOTIONAL ABUSE
    18. If the customer plays any games other than the allowed games as indicated on the coupon or terms, winnings will be void.
    19. Ladbrokes Vegas reserves the right to review transaction records and logs from time to time, for any reason whatsoever. If, upon such a review, it appears that a customer is participating in strategies that Ladbrokes Vegas, in its sole discretion deems to be abusive, Ladbrokes Vegas reserves the right to revoke the entitlement of such a customer to any promotion.
    20. Among various abusive strategies and patterns we feel it is imperative to emphasize that customers cannot bet more than 30% of the bonus amount in a single bet or game round on any of Ladbrokes Vegas games for the duration of the bonus, otherwise the bonus and all associated winnings may be voided.
    21. Furthermore, if upon such review, the customers' practices have been deemed to be 'Promotion Abuse', Ladbrokes Vegas has the right to take the following actions, at its sole discretion, against such abusers: a. All winnings in any account/s belonging to such customer will be withheld and any pending bonuses will be voided.
    b. Abusing customer accounts may be terminated immediately.
    c. Customers found to be abusing promotions may be barred from receiving further promotional offers at Vegas.

    22. Ladbrokes Vegas has the right to refuse or withhold a bonus or winnings in the event of funds being cancelled or denied by any payment service or payment provider.
    23. Ladbrokes Vegas is aware that some free bonus links may be posted on other sites or through forums or the information that the potential customer received may have been forwarded on to other persons who didn't receive the genuine bonus offer. If Ladbrokes Vegas determines that a specific customer did NOT receive that particular promotion as an intended exclusive targeted recipient that this promotion was sent out to, we will not honour any payout requests from the customer, even if they have met the wagering criteria.
    24. In the event of any dispute, the decision of Ladbrokes Vegas will be final.
    25. Ladbrokes Vegas management reserves the right to change or end any promotional offer at any time and without further notice.
    26. If, while playing at Ladbrokes Vegas, you win a sum regarded by Ladbrokes Vegas Management as worthy of publicity, you agree to make yourself available for any event of such nature arranged by Ladbrokes Vegas. While Ladbrokes Vegas protects all personal data entrusted to us, we reserve the right to use first names and the first initial of the last name in any Ladbrokes Vegas announcement about promotion results or on the website or lobby.

    Promoter: Ladbrokes International PLC is a company registered in Gibraltar, licensed and regulated by the Government of Gibraltar under the Gambling Division of the Ministry of Education, Financial Services, Gaming, Telecommunications and Justice, with license number 0012 number 46808 and registered offices at 57/63 Line Wall Road, Gibraltar


    rule 4 is the non redeemable one.......
     
  18. Nov 29, 2013
  19. mimi26

    mimi26 Meister Member

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    Wow I knew the bonus carried WR of 30 x d and b but I did not know it was non cashable, I NEVER take a bonus in the vegas section and TBH anyone who does is mad.

    I hope they do come to a deal with MG to keep that side of the casino or I am sorry to say I will be closing my account, which will be sad because I love Ladbrokes :(
     
  20. Nov 29, 2013
  21. KasinoKing

    KasinoKing WebMeister & Slotaholic.. CAG MM PABnonaccred webmeister

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    The thing is, I have seen this similar term many times where it means "the bonus is non-redeemable until after you finish the WR" - so on the Ladbrokes site it is not clear to me that they mean the bonuses are Phantom.

    And that's pretty much what I mailed to the affy rep this-afternoon.
    If they switch from MG with bonuses carrying a WR of Bx30 cashable, to Playtech with (D+B)x30 phantom, then their casino business is going to take a serious nose-dive. And that is putting aside the fact that MG software is probably THE most popular platform on the net, while Playtech is considered 2nd rate by many players.
    To me it seems obvious that the people making these big decisions at Ladbrokes have absolutely no feel for the online casino gaming community as a whole.
    Very sad indeed. :(

    KK
     
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  22. Nov 30, 2013
  23. mimi26

    mimi26 Meister Member

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    I agree KK, they should have consulted their players. I only ever play one playtech game, great blue, The rest of the games are awful. It would be a real shame if Ladbrokes went totally playtech, they are a great trustworthy casino. Why fix something that aint broken
     
  24. Nov 30, 2013
  25. Unterfranke123

    Unterfranke123 Dormant account

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    Ladbrokes is not the right casino to play Casino-games, their bonus conditions are not competitive.(also the Microgaming instant flash casino is quite crappy and can cost a fortune for players, because of their frequent mysterious errors, with error codes, where nobody can or wants to tell me what they mean). I think they are mostly moving away from Microgaming becuase the MPN poker-network has gotten so small and it´s quite unprofitable for Ladbrokes. My experience is that their support is quite awful, especially for such a very big company, it´s really embarrassing, but they don´t seem to notice it.
     
  26. Nov 30, 2013
  27. wobble33

    wobble33 Senior Member

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    it is non redeemable. i also phoned lads. and they went to see where my bonus went with the VEGAS cs. and the bonus is phantom, cant be withdrawn. thats why i lost my bonus after completing wr, and taking out my winnings. all winnings is withdrawable, just never the bonus...they also have you cant bet more than 30% rule! so sticky bonus, sign up 30x wr b/d and 30% rule with the bonus phantom, very very sad if they lose micro here, i wont be on playtech again, thats for sure...
     
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  28. Nov 30, 2013
  29. Unterfranke123

    Unterfranke123 Dormant account

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    I had the same problem, I never tought such a nonus with this difficult wagering requirement can never be sticky, but I later found out the it is. There normal support staff on the phone did not know that either and thought is not sticky. They had to contact a supervisor, what did take them about 15 minutes to do. They have many many more problems and what I have experienced with them in the last couple of month is quite unbelievable. This bonus problem was rather something very minor. I think nodody needs Ladbrokes, except their shareholders and their emplyees( and a few more who depend on them, but definetely not their customers. They were once an absolutely awesome place to play online poker(in 2002), but now, what somebody should play there? I can´t find any reason.

    "The thing is, I have seen this similar term many times where it means "the bonus is non-redeemable until after you finish the WR" - so on the Ladbrokes site it is not clear to me that they mean the bonuses are Phantom."

    Yes, it´s very unclear to see for a customer, but at Ladbrokes the Playtech-bonuses are all sticky(with awful wagering conditions) their and the Microgaming-gaming bonuses are not, but have terrible wagering conditions as well.
     
  30. Nov 30, 2013
  31. wobble33

    wobble33 Senior Member

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    Forgot to mention, the RELOAD bonuses are just x30 bonus, and not deposit. with the games weightings, its basically a slots bonus thats never cashable.

    They only need the rule you have to have deposit and bonus winnings left after wr, then they would have the complete set of unreal rules :(

    are they also getting rid of microgaming flash? hope not....
     
  32. Nov 30, 2013
  33. thebigs

    thebigs Senior Member

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    Had the very same problem.I lost 136.00 Euro in bonus not because i was trying to withdraw but i tried to transfer it to my other Ladbrokes Microgaming casino.Realised my mistake immediately but after phone calls and several e-mails they said that nothing could be done.I very rarely play there now and its their loss not mine.
     
  34. Nov 30, 2013
  35. Unterfranke123

    Unterfranke123 Dormant account

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    Their online business is performing really badly and it´s easy to see why.
     
  36. Dec 2, 2013
  37. lcfc80

    lcfc80 Dormant account

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    everything they are doing of late is bonkers. the new mexos affiliate program (playtech) i terrible. plenty of affiliates are dropping them or giving them less exposure because they think the whole playtech route is the future

    crazy when the firm got bad online results before all this
     
  38. Dec 4, 2013
  39. AudiManinBoro

    AudiManinBoro Ueber Meister MM

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    The people who have been in charge and running ladbrokes have been a brick short of a full load for years lol Their casino is terrible, their promotions awful, their staff clueless and now their showing how many brain cells they truly have by thinking switching to playtech over MG is a good decision. The only reason I can think of for such a stupid move is that Ladbrokes are in serious financial trouble and can no longer afford an MG license.
     
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