KENO...new game at 3Dice

Trollet

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Hi all!

They sure are working hard at 3Dice.

One more NEW game out, KENO :thumbsup:

You have to see it :cool:

Thank you 3Dice for all you do for us :clap:

Love the camera wiews, speed and most of all the game it self :)

(((HUGS))) Trollet
 

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I've never played keno and always thought the keno games in the casinos looked so basic. the keno with the balls looked like it was way too slow to play...

with that said....

3dice's version is way cool! you can control everything and play nice and relaxed or speed it up for that zip zip play. The sound is very authentic, the views can be changed, the speed is quite variable. Not familiar with keno so i have no idea about the odds or paytables, but the game itself is definitely 3dice quality. I only tried it for a few minutes but i can see how people become hypnotized by the "process" of keno. It's kinda like watching a pretty fish tank except the fish sometimes jump out and give you money. :D
 

Slotster!

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I just logged in to fun mode to check this out, and I have to agree...

Blimey - they've really gone the extra mile making the whole experience really really good. The way the ticket tears away and the options etc when it's in play - awesome job! Of course, ultimately, the random numbers behind the scenes and the results are what matter - but what a way to make something that should be a fun experience um... fun!

If they can get the exposure and keep the customer service at the levels being reported -- they're going to pick up a LOT of players.

Nice job 3Dice! :thumbsup:
 

babs7262

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It is so cool, isnt it? I just love how it looks so real. Plus...you dont have to hear that beep beep beep lol. I love it. I played the same $22 for 2 hours LOL, it goes a long way in that game

I made only one suggestion but Im not sure if it can be done, Enzo likes the idea. I was playing quickpick and left the game for a sec but forgot to write down the numbers (i was playing them for 2 hours with that money). I dont remember the numbers so there may be a way to have a save your numbers button. It may happen, may not, either way, I love this version
 

RobWin

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I love the fact that 3Dice has Keno now...one of my favorite games. Enzo actually let me test drive it while it was in beta testing mode...sweet...but there is one thing I would like to see Enzo and that is the numbers actually hitting the board...I can't figure out how to set it up to where I can just watch the Board Only, as I don't really care to watch the mechanism where the balls come from...I just want to watch them hitting on the board and watch my money add up...

So how can I set this game up Enzo to where it doesn't take me to watch the mechanism and only watch the board ?
 

dazlazz

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Are you serious??

Trollett and the others who just championed keno for the above mentioned company will probably be getting free chips from them for the next year for such ''''lovely'''' comments!!!! Well seeing as none of the moderators have intervened, may i remind the casino players on this forum that keno has a house hold of around 30%. I just thought I'd let you know, before anyone stats thanking the members who have made the previous posts in this thread.

Regards,

Dazzla
 

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Well seeing as none of the moderators have intervened, may i remind the casino players on this forum that keno has a house hold of around 30%. I just thought I'd let you know, before anyone stats thanking the members who have made the previous posts in this thread.

Regards,
Dazzla
Betting on 15 numbers, which is the maximum has payout% ~94.5% at 3Dice. So house egde here is 5.5% and not 30%. Betting on a lower set numbers is not much different. Anyone making a full table of payouts% would be appreciated. Then we can compare to other software providers.

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dazlazz

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Zoozie

Zoozie,

I'll think you'll find that anyone who has worked with any of the major casino software providers and have seen the rpt tables, will inform you that the Keno edge is far higher than 5%. This does not nean that I am going to publish these tables,but perhaps look at wizzard of odds pay table:

Pick Return
2 68.04%

3 69.38%

4 67.39%

5 67.57%

6 70.64%

7 69.56%

8 67.47%

9 64.53%

10 69.61%

Which makes far more commonsense!!

Regards,

Dazzla
 

Zoozie

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What software provider has that keno payout% table?

The is the Microgaming keno table from WoO:

Pick Return

1 75.00%

2 92.09%

3 93.04%

4 93.79%

5 93.87%

6 93.79%

7 96.35%

8 92.90%

9 92.86%

10 94.54%

11 93.10%

12 94.22%

13 96.54%

14 95.42%

15 95.19%

The house egde is still way too high, but not near what you listed.

But before trashing 3Dice Keno, you could at least spend 10 minutes to construct the payout table to back up your 30% house egde claim, which is not true
of course.
 
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3Dice

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Dear Dazlazz,

Trollett and the others who just championed keno for the above mentioned company will probably be getting free chips from them for the next year for such ''''lovely'''' comments!!!!

3Dice never has, nor will, reward nor solicit anyone's opinion with bonuses ! By saying this you are not just accusing 3Dice, but also your fellow cm members. Trollet, hippo, babs, robwin, .. express their opinion based on their own experience with 'above mentioned company'. Has it become so hard to believe that a positive post these days can still be 'solicited' by nothing more than an exceptional service and product ?

I'll think you'll find that anyone who has worked with any of the major casino software providers and have seen the rpt tables, will inform you that the Keno edge is far higher than 5%. This does not nean that I am going to publish these tables,but perhaps look at wizzard of odds pay table:

Here is the RTP table for the 3Dice keno :

1 - 75.00%
2 - 92.09%
3 - 93.04%
4 - 93.79%
5 - 93.87%
6 - 93.79%
7 - 94.15%
8 - 92.90%
9 - 93.43%
10 - 94.54%
11 - 93.10%
12 - 94.22%
13 - 94.90%
14 - 94.27%
15 - 94.39%

(Don't bet on just one number guys ! ;) )

Kindest regards,

Enzo


NOTE

Zoozie, I think the RTP table you copied is based on an old payout table of 32red, as the payouts of the 32red Keno are the same as 3Dice's.
 
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Slotster!

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I think most of us are pretty capable of understanding that there's a house edge on casino games Dazlaz... and that they're in the business to make money.

Most of the comments are about the presentation and how they've made it fun.

Anyone who thinks that because a casino has pretty games and great customer service - it also means they'll automatically win - is an idiot and deserves to have all their money taken off them! :D
 

Mousey

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I think most of us are pretty capable of understanding that there's a house edge on casino games Dazlaz... and that they're in the business to make money.

Most of the comments are about the presentation and how they've made it fun.

Anyone who thinks that because a casino has pretty games and great customer service - it also means they'll automatically win - is an idiot and deserves to have all their money taken off them! :D

Precisely, slotster! And Keno, almost always -- whether B&M or online -- has the greastest house edge. It's pretty much a given.

Having said that... Whatever the payout (thanks Enzo for the specifics!), that is one visually lovely game -- 3Dice's new Keno is a wowser. I was playing in free mode, hubby (who only plays a bit of poker online) glanced over at my computer, did a double take, and said, "Wow. Now that's impressive."

3Dice has taken online gambling graphics into the here and now. We all know great graphics are possible, but our senses have become dulled by MG and RTG's 'same game, different skin' on their games releases -- and while some of the games are great, the software providers (obviously) need to be more foward thinking in visual presentation and mechanics. I say thanks to 3Dice for waking our dulled senses. :thumbsup:

And no, Daz, I won't get a 'freebie' -- nor do I expect one. :rolleyes:
 

Simmo!

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Trollett and the others who just championed keno for the above mentioned company will probably be getting free chips from them for the next year for such ''''lovely'''' comments!!!!

Seems a bit uncalled for.

Well seeing as none of the moderators have intervened, may i remind the casino players on this forum that keno has a house hold of around 30%. I just thought I'd let you know, before anyone stats thanking the members who have made the previous posts in this thread.

Assuming "hold" = "edge", then as Zoozie says, that would be one terrible paytable :D But Keno does have a higher HE than most other games it must be said. It's fun, but you pay for the entertainment ;)
 

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Payout is important just the same as enjoyment of playing the game. I've played keno at land base casinos and kind lost interest "it just got boring" even though I did like some of the nice wins when you get lucky.

So, improving this type game with more visual and making it more interesting to play as it sounds 3dice has done I will give it a try in the near future.
 

babs7262

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I got 8/10 numbers the first day I ever played. But anyway...I dont think what you said Daz was very nice. I certainly dont get paid money or chips for giving a nice review

Why is it that when a good thing comes along there is someone ready to bash it? Perhaps your working at a rogue casino and your not use to reading nice things w/o payoffs?
 

RobWin

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I personally have posted many winning screenshots of Keno hits in the thread "Winning Screenshots", they are probably several hundred pages back or so now...but we all know of course that Keno is a high risk game but it also has great rewards if you are lucky enough to hit the right combination then your payoff can be phenomenal compared to your bet size...like the old saying goes "No Risks...No Riches"...just a little something to ponder on....
 

babs7262

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That was funny, Im so mad I didnt have a screenie. Remember when I hit the 8/10 like it was no big deal because it only paid $12? LOL...I only bet 1 cent!!!

I was just in there. It's nice for me because Rich is having a beer with a couple of friends at the local bar and the cat is snuggling next to me, so it s nice having the lap top on my "lap" lol..and watching the numbers go by. I started with 3.52 an hour ago and have 3.47 lol. I finally took a break
 

RobWin

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That was funny, Im so mad I didnt have a screenie. Remember when I hit the 8/10 like it was no big deal because it only paid $12? LOL...I only bet 1 cent!!!

I was just in there. It's nice for me because Rich is having a beer with a couple of friends at the local bar and the cat is snuggling next to me, so it s nice having the lap top on my "lap" lol..and watching the numbers go by. I started with 3.52 an hour ago and have 3.47 lol. I finally took a break

Gawd...I envy your patience Babs...:thumbsup:
 

babs7262

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Its not patience Rob, Its boredom and hitting my max allowed to gamble (for the weekend and it's only Friday lol)

Besides, I have fun chatting with everyone. We really have a good time. There's a guy who does photography in there sometimes and he is gonna see my amateur work lol. Enzo gave me a cool site for HDR on my shots and he taught me what DOF meant. Very smart guy!

I gotta tell ya...3dice is a smart outfit. They know it takes money to make money because when you think about it. They have employees who Im sure do other work but get paid to chat with us and it has to do something for sales. One time I didnt want to leave the conversation and threw in another $10 so I had something to look at while chatting w/o joining a tourny. They know what their doing and their doing it well.

You must admit, gambling is a one person hobby and sometimes you want to chat but not get into a full blown conversation or have to explain why you're quiet all of a sudden and that 3 dice feature keep people motivated by looking at real time screenshot lines (ie babs7262 just won $57678) and the last minute contests. Whoever thought of that chat is brilliant (omg, i hope it wasnt Enzo, his head's gonna bust lol)
 

RobWin

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Its not patience Rob, Its boredom and hitting my max allowed to gamble (for the weekend and it's only Friday lol)

Besides, I have fun chatting with everyone. We really have a good time. There's a guy who does photography in there sometimes and he is gonna see my amateur work lol. Enzo gave me a cool site for HDR on my shots and he taught me what DOF meant. Very smart guy!

I gotta tell ya...3dice is a smart outfit. They know it takes money to make money because when you think about it. They have employees who Im sure do other work but get paid to chat with us and it has to do something for sales. One time I didnt want to leave the conversation and threw in another $10 so I had something to look at while chatting w/o joining a tourny. They know what their doing and their doing it well.

You must admit, gambling is a one person hobby and sometimes you want to chat but not get into a full blown conversation or have to explain why you're quiet all of a sudden and that 3 dice feature keep people motivated by looking at real time screenshot lines (ie babs7262 just won $57678) and the last minute contests. Whoever thought of that chat is brilliant (omg, i hope it wasnt Enzo, his head's gonna bust lol)

Yep, you right about all that Babs...
 

hippo925

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All i can say is that luck (and you know it hasn't been great for me at 3dice recently) and overall satisfaction are two different things. You can't like a casino just because you're winning or hate one just because you're losing because there are so many other factors involved. I still compare other casinos to 3dice all the time. It's the standard i use... though i understand it's kind of high.

I never liked keno and never had an interest in it, but when i tried the 3dice version i was very impressed. That says a lot. Add the whole chat thing and the cs and their presence here...

In other words, i agree too.
 

babs7262

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I know Hippo,

People probably think Im wiinning tons with the posts I make, truth is, I havnt had a cashout since that one In January. If it was anywhere else, I would of closed the account but I really enjoy the company there. It's more than just money for me, although I could use a win soon, not a bonus, a win!!!:D
 

Trollet

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Trollett and the others who just championed keno for the above mentioned company will probably be getting free chips from them for the next year for such ''''lovely'''' comments!!!!

Regards,

Dazzla


Hi Dazzla!
That was so wrong...and not kind at all.

But i still wish you the best of luck.

(((HUGS))) Trollet
 
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