Jurisdiction of the interpreted Terms & Condition

P.V.

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Two questions.

Should terms & conditions be construed by the location of where the casino operations are, like the UK or from where they are licensed?

Do you think the terms & conditions should state which authority they will be interrupted from or should players just guess?
 

ksech

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Most of the casinos state in the beginning of their T&Cs jurisdictions, etc...

grande vegas:

Applicable Law / Jurisdiction
This Agreement, the interpretation and execution thereof, and the relationship between the parties, shall be governed by, and construed in accordance with, the laws of the United Kingdom. Any claim or dispute arising either directly or indirectly out of this Agreement, shall be brought before the competent court of the country of Costa Rica which court shall have exclusive jurisdiction. Notwithstanding the foregoing, Vegas Casino Online shall have the right to institute any legal proceedings against the User before the competent court in the User's home jurisdiction or elsewhere

Manhattan slots (CWC):
Manhattan Slots (MS) hereby grants the Player a personal, non-exclusive, non-transferable sub-license to use the software for playing in the casino. Club World Casinos operates through the gaming License holder World Online Gaming N.V. a Corporation incorporated under the laws of Curacao and is fully licensed and regulated by the laws of that country for the purpose of operating virtual casino gambling on the Internet, through Club World Casinos registered at Steam Packet House, Cross Street, Manchester, M2 4JU, United Kingdom, through the application of this software. The website is 100 % owned and operated by the UK company.

There are a couple of examples.
Here is a list of the current accredited casino T&Cs...

http://www.casinomeister.com/forums...s-issues/41024-casino-terms-conditions-7.html

The last post on page 7 will tell you what page of the thread and which post # the T&Cs for a specific casino/group can be found.

Hope this helps/ or is what you are looking for?
 

rainmaker

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Two questions.

Should terms & conditions be construed by the location of where the casino operations are, like the UK or from where they are licensed?

Do you think the terms & conditions should state which authority they will be interrupted from or should players just guess?

The jurisdiction of a T&C will be the place they are licensed. For example; Betsson is licensed in Malta, they are a public company listed on OMX NASDAQ NORDIC MID CAP LIST. They have offices both in Malta and Sweden. But the jurisdiction for their online casino is in Malta.

As Kesch said, it is stated in the beginning of a casinos T&C (or should be).


correct me if Im wrong.
 

P.V.

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Most of the casinos state in the beginning of their T&Cs jurisdictions, etc...

grande vegas:

Applicable Law / Jurisdiction
This Agreement, the interpretation and execution thereof, and the relationship between the parties, shall be governed by, and construed in accordance with, the laws of the United Kingdom. Any claim or dispute arising either directly or indirectly out of this Agreement, shall be brought before the competent court of the country of Costa Rica which court shall have exclusive jurisdiction. Notwithstanding the foregoing, Vegas Casino Online shall have the right to institute any legal proceedings against the User before the competent court in the User's home jurisdiction or elsewhere

Manhattan slots (CWC):
Manhattan Slots (MS) hereby grants the Player a personal, non-exclusive, non-transferable sub-license to use the software for playing in the casino. Club World Casinos operates through the gaming License holder World Online Gaming N.V. a Corporation incorporated under the laws of Curacao and is fully licensed and regulated by the laws of that country for the purpose of operating virtual casino gambling on the Internet, through Club World Casinos registered at Steam Packet House, Cross Street, Manchester, M2 4JU, United Kingdom, through the application of this software. The website is 100 % owned and operated by the UK company.

There are a couple of examples.
Here is a list of the current accredited casino T&Cs...

http://www.casinomeister.com/forums...s-issues/41024-casino-terms-conditions-7.html

The last post on page 7 will tell you what page of the thread and which post # the T&Cs for a specific casino/group can be found.

Hope this helps/ or is what you are looking for?


In your two examples Grande Vegas advises where the terms shall be interrupted, the laws of the UK.

In the Manhattan Slots term you provided, it doesn't state whether the terms will be construed by the laws of the UK or the licensing authority of Curacao.

What got me thinking about this was I read Max's Corner last night and here's the quote:

"The truth of the matter is that under UK law a person in this particular guy's situation is legally classed as a student, there's actual legal precident for this. In other words CWC was fully correct and within their rights to rule on this case as they did. In fact they would have been remiss to have done otherwise."

Let me be clear I'm not trying to open a healing wound but it did open my eyes to the fact that although a casino might be licensed in another country, for example Curacao the management many times interrupts the T & C's where they operate.

I honestly thought they had to be construed by the licensed country, maybe I'm wrong. Isn't Curacao Dutch law? I'd need to go look again but I think so.

Anyhow I guess that's just something else to be on the lookout for if in fact I'm correct. :confused:
 

maxd

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I think you'll find that companies are (almost universally) legally bound to operate within the law of the country where they are based -- the registered location of their head office or whatever -- regardless of other considerations such as where a casino might be licenced. I think that alone tells you where the shoe is going to fall when it comes to legal issues, etc.
 
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