Junglong Tianjin CN - HELP!

babysister

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Has anyone ever seen this processors name used?

JUNGLONG TIANJIN CN

This morning I checked my bank statement and found 18 charges for over 700.00 dollars. All I know is that it is an international charge. These charges appeared right after I had made a deposit to a reputable casino that I always play. I guess that someone has hacked my account! I have had this same bank account for 10 years, played and deposit at casinos with no problems. Never had a problem withdrawing mony to this bank account and now someone has screwed with my account! My account has been closed and now I will be awaiting the investigation to get my money back. This just donkey sucks! I have a pending withdrawal from my favorite casino and don't know what to do.

Be on the lookout for this hacking processor on your bank statements. Be careful and be safe at the casinos!
 

Mousey

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What a nightmare for you. I do hope the bank takes care of this... I would be going out of my mind with worry. (And I do hope this was not a household expenses account - rent/mortgage, groceries, utilities, etc.)

Just in case this is casino processor related, maybe you could PM the reps of the casinos where you've used this bank account for deposit/withdrawal, along with processor name and transaction times, and just ask nicely if they're familiar with this processor/business.

Good luck!
 

babysister

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Hackers

Hi, Mousey,

This was my primary bank debit card that I have used online. The bank did call me back and said the charges were out of China. Never been there and I am in the US. Never played at any casinos out of China that I am aware of. (Inetbet, Intertops, Wizbet, Raging Bull??)

I was so pissed when I saw all those charges, one right after another! I knew the charges had to come from a casino. The amounts were in increments like casino deposits. Very similar to deposits I would make like 53.00, 25.00 75.00, 29.00 and so on. I am just thankful the bank will refund the money due to fraudulent charges. But that still don't make up for the fact that someone can just easily steal my money and no one will be held accountable!

Thanks for the advise on contacting the casinos. I had not thought about that.
 

anniemac

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I got 3 of them myself this morning. Since zI am only playing at one reputable casino and haven't used this account maybe twice for depositing, used for withdrawals only, I am thinking hackers too.
Not a good say to start the day.
 

babysister

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I do not know for sure if the charges came from a casino. But I believe that my last transaction was to a casino and right after that, all 17 of the charges appeared. I know for a fact that Inetbet has always used the same processor that shows on my bank statement, MYASIACALL. So I have no issue with them, been playing there for years and the same with Intertops.

On my last deposit at the casino, when I made a deposit and it was declined. Statement said they could not find a processor for the transaction so please try again. Second time the deposit was approved. I suspect these deposit requst are going somewhere so someone is obtaing the info since they are looking for a processor in China?. Does this make since? This has occurred several times when the deposits where made, then delined. Resumit deposit, then approved. I don't know if this is what's going on, but I believe the processors are involed somehow and not the casinos. Make since?
 

secret2

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I had two charges on my bank card, too.

I called my bank and they asked me if I bought any clothing on-line and that the date of purchase was over two weeks ago, so a delay in posting from my account.

They are investigating this and hopefully I will receive refund to my account. I cancelled my Debit card and getting a new one. I will never use my bank card again for this. Lesson learned.
 

MyDogMick

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I had several similar charges pop up this morning. The transaction dates were from 5/7, 5/8, 5/9, etc. My bank indicated that the vendor probably waited to actually process the charges in a large batch all at once. That would be the reason for the delay in posting to my account. It seems highly unlikely that we were all hacked.
 

secret2

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I had several similar charges pop up this morning. The transaction dates were from 5/7, 5/8, 5/9, etc. My bank indicated that the vendor probably waited to actually process the charges in a large batch all at once. That would be the reason for the delay in posting to my account. It seems highly unlikely that we were all hacked.

I had a text alert from my bank this morning. Then I noticed it too.

I think that we may have been hacked. Why would you think otherwise?
 

anniemac

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I went back thru my deposit to INB, only one I play at and no deposits even remotely these amts. Plus I have only used this card twice for deposits. So, looks to me like I got hacked.

Bank closed card and is investigating again.
 

Mousey

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Hi, Mousey,

This was my primary bank debit card that I have used online. The bank did call me back and said the charges were out of China. Never been there and I am in the US. Never played at any casinos out of China that I am aware of. (Inetbet, Intertops, Wizbet, Raging Bull??)

I was so pissed when I saw all those charges, one right after another! I knew the charges had to come from a casino. The amounts were in increments like casino deposits. Very similar to deposits I would make like 53.00, 25.00 75.00, 29.00 and so on. I am just thankful the bank will refund the money due to fraudulent charges. But that still don't make up for the fact that someone can just easily steal my money and no one will be held accountable!

Thanks for the advise on contacting the casinos. I had not thought about that.


Processors are not owned or otherwise related to the casinos... All they do is process money, and for US facing casinos especially, these processors can be anywhere - and China seems to be common these days. I'm not saying these charges came as a result of depositing/withdrawing at a casino, but it's beginning to look like it could be related. Whether it was someone hacked players (stealing ID), or some lowlife hacked the processor.... players have to give out too much personal and financial info in a wildly unsecure fashion just for the privilege of playing online which leaves us easy targets.

And a few words of advice to all: please, please do not use your household account (be it checking, debit or credit card) for online gambling - especially if you are in USA. One SNAFU like this and your finances go to heck. Stay on top of your transactions, note date, time, amount and casino, check banking/card statements often.

(For the record, I haven't played online in years. Too much trouble and expense moving a few bucks there to here and back for it to be 'fun' anymore.)

Hope this works out for all of you. Please let us know how this goes.
 

shewoff

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I've read this thread from start to finish or should I say to now! And now I will give a related story that almost mirror's your's?

I was playing at a not so reputable casino that give's lot's of freebie's and I decided it felt like a came was gonna bust wide open? So I deposited $20.00 from my bank card and went on to lose it?

Here's the catcher I went to my online bank statement and the deposit was done thru a processor in China never never land is what I call it! At any rate the very next day expecting a withdrawal from a accredited site I went to my small regional bank and MY GOD :eek2: There was a charge for 703.90 from a men's clothing store in Paris, France?

I went to my bank in person and I had to speak to the manager whom is a friend and stated that the charge's were bogus. Just like you my card was canceled and a new one sent out. But I had to wait for bank investigator's to see what was up? They dropped the charge from the french clothing store.(and by the way the google told me that they had stolen over 10 million dollar's in the past 12 month's)

I fear that this may be the hydra that got me babysitter?It is attached that certain processor pout of never never land?Be careful about this casino that you play at they often will substitute a processor if your 1st try fail's or other given circumstance. Peace Out! Out Of The Mist! shewoff
 

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MyDogMick

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I had a text alert from my bank this morning. Then I noticed it too.

I think that we may have been hacked. Why would you think otherwise?

I don't believe its hacking because I knowingly deposited at casinos. The transaction dates match my activity and the amounts are consistent with what shows up on my bank statement. I think the processor just took time to finalize and actually run the charges.
 

babysister

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In my case none of the deposits that I have made match up to these bogus charges! Each time I made a deposit, I would get a comfimation email from the casino with the processors name. It would then show up on my bank statement. So no, these bogus charges are not delayed charges.

Ok, so US players have no way to address this? We are at the mercy of hackers, no way

to find out who is doing this? I guess hackers know players can not get help from their banks, so we are playing at our own risk. This is so frustrating. The little money that I have won is not worth all the money that I have lost depositing at casinos!

I quit! This was a fun sport for profit, but is it really worth it in the long run? I am going over all my accounts and adding up all the money in deposits that I made and asking myself, what do I have to show for it. How much have I won just having fun on the computer? NOTHING! (drop the mike)

DONKEY SUCKS!
 

goatwack

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As much as I empathize and feel that some blame should be apportioned to the casino, unfortunately these events can occur to anyone at any time.

I am just as likely to compromise my personal details online shopping as I am depositing at a gambling site. My card got fleeced for a couple of hundred a few years ago, and I believe the crooks purchased some DIY equipment with it. I knew there and then it could have never been me!

Banks aren't particularly hasty in disclosing their fraud investigative procedures, but I'm certain that all monies will be refunded in time to those affected. It is grating having to wait in excess of a week for this, whilst feeling like the spotlight of suspicion is on you in the meantime.

The only way to avoid this from ever occuring again would be to never make online transactions again, something that is not realistic in this day and age :(
 

benmooe

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A common trick used by scammers is they buy these card numbers in bulk (The person who hacked the info would not do the scamming themselves, too risky and not lucrative enough when you can sell card numbers). They'll then use a merchant provider with insecure or poor verification, setup the account in the name of a familiar sounding business, link it to some eCommerce software and go to town on their purchased cards. They'll also mimic your location using SOCKS5 so that the verified by visa/mastercard will allow the transaction.

Remember that the onus is on your bank to cover fraud losses and not you. Make sure you know your rights with the card issuers and report fraud and cancel the cards. The bank is required under their relationship with Visa and Mastercard to report the dodgy payment processors and get your money back into your account as soon as possible with no detriment to you.

In regards to the card numbers source, unfortunately people have multiple ways of doing this, from rogue employees to people attacking and hacking the weakest points of the site. Best thing to do is just report it to the bank and the next level up at Mastercard or Visa will do the investigating.
 

Mousey

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I will only say that yes, the danger of having our ID and/or financial info stolen is always with us if we shop online, or bank online, swipe our card at the grocery, etc.

BUT the fact that USA banks are still under the absurd UIGEA making it illegal for our banks to knowingly process offshore gambling transactions means that we are at higher risk. Why? Just ask any RTG casino rep how easy it is to find a processor that will handle USA customers, and how difficult it is to find an 'honest' processor that will do the side stepping and smoke and mirrors necessary to get those transactions to go thru, meanwhile those processors - which may up and disappear at any time - charge the casino insane amounts for doing so.

These casinos and processors are scattered around the globe.... and if an employee (casino or processor) finds a way to steal customer info? Then what?

Our gov't, in all its wisdom, has thrown us to the wolves. /rant

edited to add... forgot to add that there is also the possibility of thieves hacking the casino payment system itself. We may never know how or when or who in these particular cases. Which, in my mind, makes it even more dangerous for players.
 
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babysister

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JUNLONG TIANJIN CN

UPDATE: Been in contact with the casino that has identified the processor who is now investigating the bank charges to my account. They have been very professional and have apologized for the incident. Will keep you updated!
 
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