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This thread is a warning for ANY members of this casino. Go back and check your bill thoroughly.
 

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This thread is a warning for ANY members of this casino. Go back and check your bill thoroughly.

Maybe you could word that a bit better eh? :what:

I can not see how and why Allstar Slots would be stealing money off you? They do not have access to you 3 pin code which needs to be entered. Got to be something going on with those charges.

Have you checked the charges or amounts with your casino account to see if anything match?
 
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what 3 pin code? Ive never in my life had to enter anything like that
 
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Also not good using a credit card. Best thing is if in Europe to use Visa / debit card. Or use one of the many online wallets. Credit cards incur several charges. As each transaction is taken as a cash advance / cash withdrawal.
 

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what 3 pin code? Ive never in my life had to enter anything like that

anyways merge this with the other thread I just saw

Sorry I guess it is different for Canadians / Us compared to Europe 3 pin code = cv2 code on the back ;)
 

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The only thing I find "disgusting" is your behaviour.

You've been around long enough to know what the procedure is with accredited casinos. Contact the rep FIRST, then POST, then PAB.

I am 100% sure CWC would refund ANY unauthorized charges.

It's a shame you chose to handle this like a 5 year old instead of dealing with the issue like an adult.
 

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Making a thread calling a good casino for thieves is not going to help you sorry. I feel disgust reading this thread. You accuse them for stealing without this has even been looked at??? :mad: Sorry but this is just IMHO.....
 

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OP updated to not sound like a raving lunatic.
 
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It is not hard finding you old thread or posts about problems with charges on your creditcard. Or complains about CWC / Allslots? :rolleyes:


Prepaid vs Personal credit card
Recently I got my credit card statement and notice that allstarslots charges your credit card as a cash advance. Firstly I find this odd its even allowed. In order for anything to be cash advance I need to enter my 4 digit pin code. So how are they allowed to go about this?

The reason why I noticed is the hefty fee's. $7 per deposit transaction...pretty hefty if you make 3-4 deposits in the same day. Which happened to me. I was sick the last week or so I laid in bed watching movies and doing a bit of gambling. Even on a $25 deposit I was charged a $7 fee...I know these charges are from my CC company and not them but surely casinos must know cash advances always come with fee's.

However whenever you use a prepaid they obviously cannot charge you a cash advance and its processed as a normal purchase.

How and why can they do this? Is it a security measure where they are guaranteed the money right away instead of risking someone do a reverse transaction? How do they get around not using my 4 digit code?

thanks
 

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Well I am sure we can all understand the shock of having bogus credit card charges, it is truly aggravating and will get someone to reach their boiling point. I can assume that when you posted this you were obviously to that point. It is best to take a deep breath and try to work it through in the correct manner.
You have 100% confirmed it was all star slots?
 

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It is not hard finding you old thread or posts about problems with charges on your creditcard. Or complains about CWC / Allslots? :rolleyes:

what does this have to do with anything? And you included that post in red that has no relation to this at all? I find it very weird you waited to state accusations until nifty came in here
 
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what does this have to do with anything? And you included that post in red that has no relation to this at all? I find it very weird you waited to state accusations until nifty came in here and shilled it up

Waited to state accusations until nifty came in??? I had already posted several times. And my post just after nifty was done at same time. When I submitted it Nifty's came up lol. I really don't care what you think to be honest. I will just stay away from your threads about credit cards for future :cool:
 

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Jennifer-

I have so much empathy for your anger. I went through this about 5 months ago. Anniemac has also recently went through this.

The difference for me was that it was my debit card and the money came straight away out of my bank account that I live on.

It was a several week stressful process to get the money back-but it did get resolved.

Maybe it would help to just help to take a step back and make a list of the things you need to do first.

Anyway-I hope this gets resolved for you!
 

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Waited to state accusations until nifty came in??? I had already posted several times. And my post just after nifty was done at same time. When I submitted it Nifty's came up lol. I really don't care what you think to be honest. I will just stay away from your threads about credit cards for future :cool:

You did not post at the same time, it was over a minute. Why would you post twice times in a row but conveniently wait until nifty posts his garbage and you follow it up with the exact same thing?

Why are you leaving? I would like to know why you did this and why you decided to point the finger at me first when this group has been having problems like this in the past and other issues? What is your agenda here?

Jennifer-

I have so much empathy for your anger. I went through this about 5 months ago. Anniemac has also recently went through this.

The difference for me was that it was my debit card and the money came straight away out of my bank account that I live on.

It was a several week stressful process to get the money back-but it did get resolved.

Maybe it would help to just help to take a step back and make a list of the things you need to do first.

Anyway-I hope this gets resolved for you!



I agree with this post. I feel really angry that this happened even though I know it will get sorted out. I was warned by friends not to play online because of security issues and what not. Maybe i should have listened.

I do not like the idea my ID and whatever else is most likely floating in the wrong people's hands and then i read the response from the casino who basically said one sentence. We didnt do this and if you are suggesting we did you're account will be locked. How am I supposed to get the proper information. I went to live chat and got nothing but attitude even though I was polite.

How can I not be mad? I guess in a perfect world like nifty lives in everyone should not get upset and everything is butterflies and lollipops.

and btw nifty if you paid attention to my post where I clearly stated this thread is about warning members, you wouldnt suggest to PAB etc. I dont need to do that, Im getting it dealt with. Try paying attention please before you troll members.
 

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You did not post at the same time, it was over a minute. Why would you post twice times in a row but conveniently wait until nifty posts his garbage and you follow it up with the exact same thing?

Why are you leaving? I would like to know why you did this and why you decided to point the finger at me first when this group has been having problems like this in the past and other issues? What is your agenda here?

I posted at same time as him LOL I just told you.

The thing I have a problem with is the way you made that thread and wording Allstars as thieves without it has not even been looked at.

And I keep seeing posts from you complaining about this and that? And months ago just stopped with gambling then back again.
I was really happy for you and liked the posts you did after all that. :thumbsup:

If you read back on my post earlier you can see I was not really being friendly was I??? I was trying to say it nicely word it different instead of accusing a casino for stealing.

Okay rant over. I will not be discussion anything anymore with you Jennifer. Not even in PM.

Sorry I do wish you the best and also that this gets sorted I am human you know :p
 

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I posted at same time as him LOL I just told you.

The thing I have a problem with is the way you made that thread and wording Allstars as thieves without it has not even been looked at.

And I keep seeing posts from you complaining about this and that? And months ago just stopped with gambling then back again.
I was really happy for you and liked the posts you did after all that. :thumbsup:

If you read back on my post earlier you can see I was not really being friendly was I??? I was trying to say it nicely word it different instead of accusing a casino for stealing.

Okay rant over. I will not be discussion anything anymore with you Jennifer. Not even in PM.

Sorry I do wish you the best and also that this gets sorted I am human you know :p

It does not need to be looked at. I am not doing a PAB im dealing with it through my cc. When i spoke to the investigator he confirmed fraud has taken place and they will investigate further. This thread was a warning to members to check their CC bills while I went on a nice little rant..lol

In the future do not attack members, try having empathy to the situation especially when it has nothing to do with PAB or asking for help

I re-read your posts and yes I can tell you werent being friendly but you werent being rude either. You were upset at my wording which whatever. But then all of the sudden you took it to another level after nifty posts his usual "stick up for the casino first, blame the member" shtick.

thank you for your kind wishes and I wasnt planning on pming anyone

Now if Im not allowed to warn members and go on a little venting spree then I guess I broke the rules.

Sorry for my part on the freakout and semi meltdown. i am human ya know
 

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Very agressive and vague thread so far.

Jennifer saying she was robbed with no real explanation or proof. Title is really uncalled for.

Paaskedknowuk posting previous posts about credit cards without an explanation as to why or the connection.

Unfortunately Jennifer you should know the type of responses you are getting should be expected due to the title of your thread. I did get to read your original post before you deleted it, but still there was not much detail other than you have $125 in unauthorized charges and they were between 10-12 charges, you contacted All star and they didnt give you a response other than they might shut off your account. The question I have is do you think that this $125 was because of all of those $7 additional charges? The previous post that Paaskedknow posted shows you recently were making a lot of transactions.

I did just read the last post about an invesitgator saying it was fraud. I hate to believe that this would happen, and I am not saying you are not telling the truth, but you need to post the proof when saying someone is stealing.

You now owe it to this thread to list details as to why it was fraud. How many transactions, how much, what did the descriptor read, etc/....
 

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I already listed it was 12 transactions in the amount of $125 ranging from the last few weeks and as far as 3 months ago where everyone on the forum knows I was not gambling at that time and self excluded myself.

Again, I cannot provide proof as I did not record the phone conversation.

And again, if warning members is against the rules to check their cc bill then delete the thread.
 

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PaaskeDKnowUK:515163 said:
It is not hard finding you old thread or posts about problems with charges on your creditcard. Or complains about CWC / Allslots? :rolleyes:


Prepaid vs Personal credit card
Recently I got my credit card statement and notice that allstarslots charges your credit card as a cash advance. Firstly I find this odd its even allowed. In order for anything to be cash advance I need to enter my 4 digit pin code. So how are they allowed to go about this?

The reason why I noticed is the hefty fee's. $7 per deposit transaction...pretty hefty if you make 3-4 deposits in the same day. Which happened to me. I was sick the last week or so I laid in bed watching movies and doing a bit of gambling. Even on a $25 deposit I was charged a $7 fee...I know these charges are from my CC company and not them but surely casinos must know cash advances always come with fee's.

However whenever you use a prepaid they obviously cannot charge you a cash advance and its processed as a normal purchase.

How and why can they do this? Is it a security measure where they are guaranteed the money right away instead of risking someone do a reverse transaction? How do they get around not using my 4 digit code?

thanks
. Hi just wanted to let you know, even with prepaid there are fees. I use one all the time, and for instance I can load it for just say $60, deposit into the casino just say $50 and I'm generally charged several dollars more. If you deposit the entire $60, the next time you load your card there is a negative balance. Again, for instance you load again for $70 and you may only be credited $66. Even the prepaid manages to get those fees :(
 

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Paaskedknowuk posting previous posts about credit cards without an explanation as to why or the connection.

The question I have is do you think that this $125 was because of all of those $7 additional charges? The previous post that Paaskedknow posted shows you recently were making a lot of transactions.

Just to put what I said to bed. I mentioned other thread as I understood Jennifer again was having a rant about credit card charges and turned this around to that Allslots were stealing from her. So my apologies on this. But I did express myself that the title of this thread was not nice. That put me way off. :thumbsup:
 

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Just to put what I said to bed. I mentioned other thread as I understood Jennifer again was having a rant about credit card charges and turned this around to that Allslots were stealing from her. So my apologies on this. But I did express myself that the title of this thread was not nice. That put me way off. :thumbsup:

lol this is what your posts were all about? wow.


Just to clear this up what was in the OP.

I was charged $125 12 different times in the last 3 months (sometimes when I was even self excluded)

$125x12 = $1500. This is what was charged to my credit card with the same payment processor that allstarslots use when doing a cc transaction

So again everyone who uses this casino, please go back through your bills and make sure you havent been wrongfully charged. If you have, contact your CC ASAP.
 

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Wow, I thought you meant it was a total of $125, but $125 at a time is a lot. Now I would have to assume it was the processor and not All Star that is doing this?
 

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When I asked the investigator this he said it was processed by the main company which gave the processors permission to withdraw the money. So I asked "it was the casino?" He said "yes".

He also said the way the transactions were processed most times, they were duplicate purchases made within seconds of each other and then a few scattered here and there. This is how he came to conclusion its fraud charges.


So unless he is misinformed then yes it was allstarslots. Im taking their word for it here, I do not really know how these things work
 

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Ahh Okay makes better sense now, I though it was odds amount only 125$ total as well :p

I can see now this is really bad. Okay but still should had waited posting this until you had 100% proof they are stealing from you. That is all. Could it not be fraudsters using you card details?? Guess I am back now. But will leave you to it :p
 

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I personally do not know how any of this works in relation to being frauded. Long time members who have seen and dealt with this would be more inclined to answer your questions. I can only relay what I was told. I imagine they trace the process and figure in my entire history this one processor was only used for ASS, I guess it would be them and no one else.

My CC is sending me an affidavit I need to sign and send back so thats what we are waiting on now. But in the mean time Im sure they are investigating this. I told them whoever did it I need all the information they can give me because I want pursue criminal charges so these people cannot do this to others.
 

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