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Jeeze..More Spam

Discussion in 'Casino Spam Complaints' started by RobWin, Jan 6, 2008.

    Jan 6, 2008
  1. RobWin

    RobWin closed account

    Occupation:
    Who knows?
    Location:
    A Vault!
    I can't figure out how these damn people get my email address...:mad:

    And here are the email headers, does anyone know where this shit comes from ?

    :mad::mad::mad::mad::mad::mad::mad::mad::mad:
     
  2. Jan 7, 2008
  3. GGW Laurie

    GGW Laurie Dormant account

    Occupation:
    Self Employed
    Location:
    In the Beautiful South !!
    im not a computer whizz but any way of getting rid of these pests? i have asked to be removed and then ill get 5 more just like it:confused: are they affiliates some of them ?i have to just keep deleting and its like pouring sugar on an ant pile they just keep comming in droves. i feel for you robwin!!..........laurie
     
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  4. Jan 7, 2008
  5. bb28

    bb28 Meister Member

    Occupation:
    Customer Service
    Location:
    US
    I don't know about you guys, but my casino spam level is at the highest I've ever seen it.
    Most of it goes to my spam folder but geez!

    Too bad we can't torture the spammers. :axeman2::sniper::machinegu:machinegu
     
  6. Jan 7, 2008
  7. maxd

    maxd Complaints (PAB) Manager Staff Member

    Occupation:
    The PAB Guy
    Location:
    Saltirelandia
    :lolup:

    FWIW I get the same deluge that the rest of you are experiencing, sometimes as many a 100 or more per day per email address. My spam filters get about 70% of it but still, it is a PITA. :mad:
     
  8. Jan 7, 2008
  9. lots0

    lots0 Banned User - troll posts - flaming

    Occupation:
    I do nothing productive
    Location:
    Hell on Earth
    Don't use the Unsubscribe links in the spam emails.

    When you use the unsubscribe link or respond and ask to be removed, they never remove you, all it does is let the spammer know he/she has a 'live' email address, that they can sell to another spammer or just send more spam to.

    Never respond in any way to a SPAM and NEVER NEVER click on any links inside a spam email.

    I would also suggest that if possible you disable all images in your email. If you can see a spammers images in an email they can 'see' your computer and again they know they have a 'live' address.
     
  10. Jan 7, 2008
  11. GaryWatson

    GaryWatson Dormant account

    Occupation:
    Marketing Consultant
    Location:
    Europe
    My spam originated from signing up through Platinum Play Casino. Im get 3 daily e-mails to various sites. The spam filter catches most of them but I still get discs sent to my home address. This is coming from an affiliate employee
     
  12. Jan 7, 2008
  13. vinylweatherman

    vinylweatherman You type well loads CAG MM

    Occupation:
    STILL At Leisure
    Location:
    United Kingdom
    Now this is most interesting. This is what got Fortune Lounge rogued in the past. This looks like they have passed on your CONFIDENTIAL contact details to an affiliate, who is now trying to get you to play at the other casinos in the group. Since the disks go to your POSTAL address, it is Fortune Lounge themselves that are responsible for leaking your details, it is impossible for spammers to somehow guess your postal address as well as generating random Email addresses, which is the "official explanation" you will probably get if you complain.

    If you no longer play there, you can directly contact Fortune Lounge and ask to be removed from all their mailing lists. This was part of a deal they offered to resolve the spamming crisis of two years ago, they should have a mechanism in place to ensure that linked affiliates also remove you from mailing databases.

    I believe many casinos are in on this, as there are more credible "indicators" for this than the "indicators" casinos say they have that PROVE that groups of accounts are all linked to a "fraud ring".

    If casinos really had nothing to do with spam, we would find affiliates having their accounts terminated IMMEDIATELY, it would NOT take several months of constant badgering as it did with Fortune Lounge back then, and more recently, Spin Palace & Grand Monaco.
     
  14. Jan 7, 2008
  15. winbig

    winbig Keep winning this amount.

    Occupation:
    Bum
    Location:
    Pennsylvania
    also, 9 times out of 10, they have programs that use a brute-force attack against email servers, trying each and every character combination until it gets a match, then continues on. That's why you will get spam to an email address that you've never used anywhere else.....

    Most email providers have tight blocks against this, but yahoo/gmail/hotmail are prime targets...
     
  16. Jan 7, 2008
  17. GaryWatson

    GaryWatson Dormant account

    Occupation:
    Marketing Consultant
    Location:
    Europe
    Funnily enough it is a yahoo account. I find them pretty good for blocking spam. I dont really care too much about the spam, its easy enough to delete but a bit pissed off that my personal details are being passed on
     
  18. Jan 7, 2008
  19. GGW Laurie

    GGW Laurie Dormant account

    Occupation:
    Self Employed
    Location:
    In the Beautiful South !!
    this is the one driving me crazy

    Winning Spree all Around‏
    From: Lisa Kimberland (news@slots-roulette.com)
    You may not know this sender.Mark as safe|Mark as unsafe
    Sent: Mon 1/07/08 3:46 PM
    Reply-to: This email is not visible to you.
    To: @hotmail.com[/email] ................this is the 16th ive gotten from her today:mad: ill have that many again tomorrow........laurie
     
  20. Jan 8, 2008
  21. lojo

    lojo Banned User - repetitive violations of <a href="ht

    Occupation:
    Tradesman
    Location:
    USA
    Not the only spam coming from them, I've been landing on this spammer for a while now:

    DomainsByProxy.com
    15111 N. Hayden Rd., Ste 160, PMB 353
    Scottsdale, Arizona 85260
    United States

    Registered through: GoDaddy.com, Inc. (You must register/login in order to see the link.)
    Domain Name: SLOTS-ROULETTE.COM
    Created on: 05-Dec-07
    Expires on: 05-Dec-08
    Last Updated on: 05-Dec-07

    Administrative Contact:
    Private, Registration This email is not visible to you.
    Domains by Proxy, Inc.
    DomainsByProxy.com
    15111 N. Hayden Rd., Ste 160, PMB 353
    Scottsdale, Arizona 85260
    United States
    (480) 624-2599 Fax -- (480) 624-2599

    Technical Contact:
    Private, Registration This email is not visible to you.
    Domains by Proxy, Inc.
    DomainsByProxy.com
    15111 N. Hayden Rd., Ste 160, PMB 353
    Scottsdale, Arizona 85260
    United States
    (480) 624-2599 Fax -- (480) 624-2599
     
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  22. Jan 8, 2008
  23. inthedesert

    inthedesert Full Member

    My father has one account he used only with FL and he is also getting spam from various (no name) casinos now. This isn't something random because he only used that email address for FL, and he noted it on paper.

    Even if FL removed you from the list they have the damage has been done. Now, his email address has been passed on to various spammers and there is nothing to be done about that.

    This is a serious issue (again) that needs to be dealt with. What information is being passed on to third parties, and to what extent.
     
  24. Jan 8, 2008
  25. vinylweatherman

    vinylweatherman You type well loads CAG MM

    Occupation:
    STILL At Leisure
    Location:
    United Kingdom
    Casinos always state they never do this, however they cannot be believed, as the patterns of spamming are suggesting that it is mostly Email addresses that have previously been registered at an online casino are being targeted.
    If this was unrelated to leaked personal details, casino related spam would behave in the same manner as other spam, such as falling in equal proportion into all mature Email addresses.

    Other than to hit back hard at the companies paying the spammers, there is little else players can do. In the case of casinos, the spammers are DIRECTLY rewarded by their affiliate payments. It is the reluctance of some casinos to deny these payments that fuels the ever increasing tide of spam. There also seems nothing to stop spamming affiliates simply from opening another affiliate account when they get shut down. This is in stark contrast to the multilayered security measures seemingly in place to prevent PLAYERS from opening multiple accounts if they get a name for themselves as an "advantage player".
    Players have to send in ID details and jump through hoops to get paid, the details supplied by affiliates are accepted at face value, and no active monitoring of their activity takes place. Only when there are a large number of very public complaints exposing the lack of action do casinos seem to take half hearted measures to shut down the spammers, such as "talking to them".
     
  26. Jan 8, 2008
  27. RobWin

    RobWin closed account

    Occupation:
    Who knows?
    Location:
    A Vault!
    Anyone ever seen this one. I know I don't have no account there, but according to their email they think I do. Looks like just more spam to me.....:sniper:


    Here's the email headers:

     
  28. Jan 9, 2008
  29. vinylweatherman

    vinylweatherman You type well loads CAG MM

    Occupation:
    STILL At Leisure
    Location:
    United Kingdom
    SPAM

    A genuine mailer to encourage a player to reopen a dormant account will address them by name, and give them a reminder of their account login number (not password, but this could be reset on request).

    Spammers try to trick the receiver into thinking this is a genuine account they once had, but had completely forgotten about. Invariably, the "come back offer" will be exactly the same as the new player offer.

    If this is a rogue casino (is it RTG?), they are likely to be sending out their own spam, hoping to fool people. When these people contact support to get a reminder of their long lost details, they will be told to just open a new account, because the old one has been wiped from the system. Thus they have tricked another unsuspecting punter into opening a new account.
     

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