Jeeze..More Spam

RobWin

closed account
Joined
Apr 24, 2004
Location
A Vault!
I can't figure out how these damn people get my email address...:mad:

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And here are the email headers, does anyone know where this shit comes from ?

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GGW Laurie

Paleo Meister (means really, really old)
Joined
Jun 16, 2006
Location
In the Beautiful South !!
im not a computer whizz but any way of getting rid of these pests? i have asked to be removed and then ill get 5 more just like it:confused: are they affiliates some of them ?i have to just keep deleting and its like pouring sugar on an ant pile they just keep comming in droves. i feel for you robwin!!..........laurie
 

bb28

Meister Member
Joined
Nov 18, 2006
Location
US
I don't know about you guys, but my casino spam level is at the highest I've ever seen it.
Most of it goes to my spam folder but geez!

Too bad we can't torture the spammers. :axeman2::sniper::machinegu:machinegu
 

lots0

Banned User - troll posts - flaming
Joined
Jun 3, 2006
Location
Hell on Earth
i have asked to be removed and then ill get 5 more just like it
Don't use the Unsubscribe links in the spam emails.

When you use the unsubscribe link or respond and ask to be removed, they never remove you, all it does is let the spammer know he/she has a 'live' email address, that they can sell to another spammer or just send more spam to.

Never respond in any way to a SPAM and NEVER NEVER click on any links inside a spam email.

I would also suggest that if possible you disable all images in your email. If you can see a spammers images in an email they can 'see' your computer and again they know they have a 'live' address.
 

GaryWatson

Dormant account
Joined
Jun 15, 2007
Location
Europe
My spam originated from signing up through Platinum Play Casino. Im get 3 daily e-mails to various sites. The spam filter catches most of them but I still get discs sent to my home address. This is coming from an affiliate employee
 

vinylweatherman

You type well loads
Joined
Oct 14, 2004
Location
United Kingdom
My spam originated from signing up through Platinum Play Casino. Im get 3 daily e-mails to various sites. The spam filter catches most of them but I still get discs sent to my home address. This is coming from an affiliate employee

Now this is most interesting. This is what got Fortune Lounge rogued in the past. This looks like they have passed on your CONFIDENTIAL contact details to an affiliate, who is now trying to get you to play at the other casinos in the group. Since the disks go to your POSTAL address, it is Fortune Lounge themselves that are responsible for leaking your details, it is impossible for spammers to somehow guess your postal address as well as generating random Email addresses, which is the "official explanation" you will probably get if you complain.

If you no longer play there, you can directly contact Fortune Lounge and ask to be removed from all their mailing lists. This was part of a deal they offered to resolve the spamming crisis of two years ago, they should have a mechanism in place to ensure that linked affiliates also remove you from mailing databases.

I believe many casinos are in on this, as there are more credible "indicators" for this than the "indicators" casinos say they have that PROVE that groups of accounts are all linked to a "fraud ring".

If casinos really had nothing to do with spam, we would find affiliates having their accounts terminated IMMEDIATELY, it would NOT take several months of constant badgering as it did with Fortune Lounge back then, and more recently, Spin Palace & Grand Monaco.
 

winbig

Keep winning this amount.
Joined
Mar 10, 2005
Location
Pennsylvania
also, 9 times out of 10, they have programs that use a brute-force attack against email servers, trying each and every character combination until it gets a match, then continues on. That's why you will get spam to an email address that you've never used anywhere else.....

Most email providers have tight blocks against this, but yahoo/gmail/hotmail are prime targets...
 

GaryWatson

Dormant account
Joined
Jun 15, 2007
Location
Europe
Funnily enough it is a yahoo account. I find them pretty good for blocking spam. I dont really care too much about the spam, its easy enough to delete but a bit pissed off that my personal details are being passed on
 

GGW Laurie

Paleo Meister (means really, really old)
Joined
Jun 16, 2006
Location
In the Beautiful South !!
this is the one driving me crazy

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From: Lisa Kimberland (news@slots-roulette.com)
You may not know this sender.Mark as safe|Mark as unsafe
Sent: Mon 1/07/08 3:46 PM
Reply-to: reply@slots-roulette.com
To: @hotmail.com[/email] ................this is the 16th ive gotten from her today:mad: ill have that many again tomorrow........laurie
 

lojo

Banned User - repetitive violations of <a href="ht
Joined
Jan 18, 2007
Location
USA
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From: Lisa Kimberland (news@slots-roulette.com)
You may not know this sender.Mark as safe|Mark as unsafe
Sent: Mon 1/07/08 3:46 PM
Reply-to: reply@slots-roulette.com
To: @hotmail.com[/email] ................this is the 16th ive gotten from her today:mad: ill have that many again tomorrow........laurie

Not the only spam coming from them, I've been landing on this spammer for a while now:

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15111 N. Hayden Rd., Ste 160, PMB 353
Scottsdale, Arizona 85260
United States

Registered through: GoDaddy.com, Inc. (
You do not have permission to view link Log in or register now.
)
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Last Updated on: 05-Dec-07

Administrative Contact:
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Technical Contact:
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15111 N. Hayden Rd., Ste 160, PMB 353
Scottsdale, Arizona 85260
United States
(480) 624-2599 Fax -- (480) 624-2599
 

inthedesert

Full Member
Joined
Feb 19, 2004
Location
Palm Springs, California
Now this is most interesting. This is what got Fortune Lounge rogued in the past. This looks like they have passed on your CONFIDENTIAL contact details to an affiliate, who is now trying to get you to play at the other casinos in the group. Since the disks go to your POSTAL address, it is Fortune Lounge themselves that are responsible for leaking your details, it is impossible for spammers to somehow guess your postal address as well as generating random Email addresses, which is the "official explanation" you will probably get if you complain.

My father has one account he used only with FL and he is also getting spam from various (no name) casinos now. This isn't something random because he only used that email address for FL, and he noted it on paper.

Even if FL removed you from the list they have the damage has been done. Now, his email address has been passed on to various spammers and there is nothing to be done about that.

This is a serious issue (again) that needs to be dealt with. What information is being passed on to third parties, and to what extent.
 

vinylweatherman

You type well loads
Joined
Oct 14, 2004
Location
United Kingdom
My father has one account he used only with FL and he is also getting spam from various (no name) casinos now. This isn't something random because he only used that email address for FL, and he noted it on paper.

Even if FL removed you from the list they have the damage has been done. Now, his email address has been passed on to various spammers and there is nothing to be done about that.

This is a serious issue (again) that needs to be dealt with. What information is being passed on to third parties, and to what extent.

Casinos always state they never do this, however they cannot be believed, as the patterns of spamming are suggesting that it is mostly Email addresses that have previously been registered at an online casino are being targeted.
If this was unrelated to leaked personal details, casino related spam would behave in the same manner as other spam, such as falling in equal proportion into all mature Email addresses.

Other than to hit back hard at the companies paying the spammers, there is little else players can do. In the case of casinos, the spammers are DIRECTLY rewarded by their affiliate payments. It is the reluctance of some casinos to deny these payments that fuels the ever increasing tide of spam. There also seems nothing to stop spamming affiliates simply from opening another affiliate account when they get shut down. This is in stark contrast to the multilayered security measures seemingly in place to prevent PLAYERS from opening multiple accounts if they get a name for themselves as an "advantage player".
Players have to send in ID details and jump through hoops to get paid, the details supplied by affiliates are accepted at face value, and no active monitoring of their activity takes place. Only when there are a large number of very public complaints exposing the lack of action do casinos seem to take half hearted measures to shut down the spammers, such as "talking to them".
 

RobWin

closed account
Joined
Apr 24, 2004
Location
A Vault!
Anyone ever seen this one. I know I don't have no account there, but according to their email they think I do. Looks like just more spam to me.....:sniper:


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vinylweatherman

You type well loads
Joined
Oct 14, 2004
Location
United Kingdom
SPAM

A genuine mailer to encourage a player to reopen a dormant account will address them by name, and give them a reminder of their account login number (not password, but this could be reset on request).

Spammers try to trick the receiver into thinking this is a genuine account they once had, but had completely forgotten about. Invariably, the "come back offer" will be exactly the same as the new player offer.

If this is a rogue casino (is it RTG?), they are likely to be sending out their own spam, hoping to fool people. When these people contact support to get a reminder of their long lost details, they will be told to just open a new account, because the old one has been wiped from the system. Thus they have tricked another unsuspecting punter into opening a new account.
 
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