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Jackpot Party® launches brand new Life of Luxury™ Progressive!

Discussion in 'Casinomeister Exclusive Promotions' started by JParty_Roxy, Jun 21, 2012.

    Jun 21, 2012
  1. JParty_Roxy

    JParty_Roxy Dormant account

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    Two game themes AND one shared progressive feature? It has to be the unique Life Of Luxury™ slot game, only at JackpotParty.com
    World Premiere 21st June 2012 at You must register/login in order to see the link.


    Put your hands together ladies and gentlemen for the Life of Luxury Progressive online slot – the Vegas classic now online exclusively at Jackpot Party!

    For a chance at the Life of Luxury feature, first choose from the Jungle Cats™ or Riches of Rome™ games. Jungle Cats and Riches of Rome are two different base games with the ‘Life of Luxury’ as a common feature. There are 5 different levels of progressive as part of The Life of Luxury feature. Plus, both games have free spin features of their own.

    That means that both games will contribute to the common progressive pool, and that’s on top of the Jackpot Party Progressive!

    Here’s how the base games differ:-

    •Jungle Cats offers an 8 spin feature round with stacked high symbols
    •Riches of Rome offers expanding WILD symbols and a free spin feature round

    While playing Jungle Cats or Riches of Rome, randomly find the Life of Luxury symbol to enter the life of luxury feature, worth 10 free spins.

    •During the spins, any gem appearing on the reels awards a picking chance at that gem’s progressive
    •You could win the same gem award multiple times during the free spins, and even multiple gem jackpots on the same spin.
    •Even better, if you play at Max Bet, you are guaranteed a jackpot award each time you find a gem in the life of luxury feature round!

    So let’s raise a glass of fizz to your eternal success playing Life of Luxury Progressive slot game, exclusively available at You must register/login in order to see the link.!
     
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  2. Jun 21, 2012
  3. Jasminebed

    Jasminebed Closer to 100 than Birth

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    Do wish you could expand the market you serve, it's so tough seeing favourites from my land-based casino on offer.
     
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  4. Jun 21, 2012
  5. me_and_ed

    me_and_ed Ueber Meister CAG MM

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    Not our locale:mad:
     
  6. Jun 21, 2012
  7. ChopleyIOM

    ChopleyIOM Hearthstone Addict webby

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    I have my concerns about these new games.

    The usual Jackpot Party rules apply for the Jackpot Party Progressive (the higher your stake the better your chance of triggering it), but it seems these new games add another level of progressives to the mix.

    My issue here is that the higher your stake, the better your chance of getting the progressive from the 'pick me' bonus round that can be triggered from the two base games, to the extent that max stake (£2.40) guarantees you get the progressive for the tier you unlock from the Life of Luxury bonus game.

    As I read it, this basically means that players playing at £2.40 per spin are getting a better RTP than those at 30p per spin, as the £2.40 per spin players are guaranteed the progressive for the tier they unlock. Whereas 30p per spin players only have a 1 in 8 chance of getting the progressive.

    Anyone else thinks that make sense? I've included screenshots of the paytable.

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  8. Jun 21, 2012
  9. CakeKing

    CakeKing On a Break

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    My opinion is the higher you bet the better chance for progressive is quite frankly good.And since it's clearly explained how it works i don't see anything bad about it.And even if you bet 0.30p you still have the chance to win progressive.

    Too bad i can't play here if im not misstaken its Uk only?
     
  10. Jun 21, 2012
  11. ChopleyIOM

    ChopleyIOM Hearthstone Addict webby

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    Yes but if the lower stakes players are effectively getting a lower RTP because the higher stakes players are constantly rinsing the smaller progressives, then to me that's a problem.

    I'll probably have a go at this over the weekend so I'll see how it works, I can play in free money but all the progressives are disabled (I can't even see how much they are), not just the site-wide Jackpot Party Progressive, but also the five extra progressives that these Life of Luxury slots have.

    I actually have this same fundamental problem with the site-wide Jackpot Party Progressives themselves (high stakes players constantly rinse the smaller progressives), which is why Jackpot Party tends not to be my favourite place to play at as a low-roller, since all players give over 3% of all wagers to the site-wide JPP whether they want to or not.
     
  12. Jun 21, 2012
  13. aceking123

    aceking123 Ueber Meister CAG PABnononaccred MM

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    dont see that as any problem to be honest considering there wagering 7 x 30p more than others players playing at same game different stake , people who are clearly playing the max 2.40 should have a higher chance , there using more funds quicker so they do less playtime & less spins pending on bank roll . cant see what there is to moan about realy )
     
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  14. Jun 21, 2012
  15. ChopleyIOM

    ChopleyIOM Hearthstone Addict webby

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    This is something I wrote about the JPP system elsewhere, but I suspect the same basic principle would also apply to the new LoL progressives.

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    The Jackpot Party T&Cs state that the chance of triggering the JPP feature is related to stake, and this is where I'm trying to work out if low stakes players are basically getting the shaft or not.

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    Let's say someone has a bankroll of £1000 and they're playing at £10 per spin, and they play for an hour.

    Someone else has a bankroll of £100 and they play £1 per spin, they also play for the SAME hour.

    If the relationship between stake and JPP trigger chance is linear (and I can't get a straight answer off the Jackpot Party site or from one of their 'hosts' in the realtime chat, so we'll have to assume), then our £10 per spin player is 10X more likely to trigger the JPP on any given spin. Yes he may well lose 10X as much, but with the JPP values being fixed across all stakes, he stands a better chance of effectively 'buying' the JPP.

    My basic thought here is that if you've got, for the sake of argument, fifty concurrent low stakes players on the site, and fifty concurrent high stakes players on the site, then the high stakes players are just going to continually cream off the JPPs, even if they're all 0 or 1 star JPPs and effectively worthless to them, it does mean that the low stakes players will hardly ever get a look in.

    Certainly I've had some extended sessions at Jackpot Party, and you get a pop-up window every time someone wins a progressive (even the 0 star one), if there are high stakes players on, you'll just see their name come up time and time again. Some of them are happy to chat in the realtime chat window, there's a guy who was playing £15 per spin for an evening and he hit it about five times, I was talking to him again a couple of nights ago and he said he'd stopped playing at high stakes 'cause even though he got the JPP all the time £50-£200 wins were neither here nor there at such big stakes, plus he was losing a fortune due to the high stakes.

    Because all the games are split 92% base game and 3% progressives, and because the vast majority of progressive wins are 0 or 1 star, and because the high stakes players are continually nailing them - it seems to me that the low stakes players (like me!) are effectively giving that 3% away and would be better off just playing elsewhere where the 95% payout is fixed for the game YOU'RE playing at the time, rather than chucking 3% at progressives that you'll hardly ever get to win.

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    Overall my feeling is that for low stakes players, you're going to see far closer to 92% return than 95% at Jackpot Party, because that 3% you're allegedly getting from the progressives is so vanishingly unlikely to come up that you may as well just write it off. And that's before you take into account the effect of the really big progressive values that eat into the short-middle term return as well.

    To put it into perspective, according to my account page at Jackpot Party I have earned 1021 'points', you get 1 point for every £10 wagered, so I've wagered a total of £10,210 (!), all of it at stakes of between 20p and 40p. If we take an average stake of 30p that means I've done 34,033 spins, and in that time I've had three JPP features.

    So in other words, off that data sample, playing at low stakes, you get a JPP feature every 11,344 spins. Not good.

    However, that sample is (a) Not a large enough data set and (b) Skewed as I got three JPPs very early on, I suspect the real long term figure is far higher than that, possibly up to something as horrible 1:30,000 or even higher. In the realtime chat at Jackpot Party there are quite a few small stakes players who say they haven't seen a JPP feature in MONTHS of playing, and this is against a backdrop of high stakes players continually dropping the smaller JPPs, sometimes several times in the space of a few hours.

    And all the time of course you're having to play the games at that horrible 92% to get a chance of triggering a JPP to see some of the 3% you're allegedly getting back off the progressives.

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    My specific problem with Jackpot Party's progressive model (and a couple of other posters here have reached the same conclusion that I have) is that ALL players, irrespective of stake, HAVE to give 3% of their wagers over to the progressives at all times. With the chance of triggering the JPP feature being linked to stake, the net result of this is that low stakes players are effectively feeding 3% of their wagers to the high stakes players for them to continually drain out of the 0-1-2 progressive prizes.

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    The problem with Jackpot Party is that if you're playing at the same time as a couple (or more) of high stakes players, and they've got the bankroll to play for as long as you're playing, they'll just continually mop up the small JPPs as their higher stakes give them a far better chance to hit the JPP on any given spin.

    The fact that they're potentially losing loads and that the small JPPs are worthless to them doesn't make your own gameplay experience any better.

    Chuck in high variance games like Bruce Lee into the mix, which can really sting on that low 92% return, and it's possible to have a pretty tawdry time.
     
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  16. Jun 22, 2012
  17. Zepher

    Zepher Experienced Member

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    Great Post Chopley..


    Don't have much time on my hands atm for a proper response to this, but I have to say that I wholeheartedly agree with you on the points you made. Effectively, with the way this has all been setup ( both JP and LOL Progressives ) it is definitely the higher stake players ( as you said - £10 per spin player vs £1 per spin player ) that have an advantage, and are then effectively, just because of their bankroll, getting a MUCH BETTER RTP than others who just cannot/will not play at those crazy stakes. It just doesn't seem right does it?!
     
  18. Jun 23, 2012
  19. ChopleyIOM

    ChopleyIOM Hearthstone Addict webby

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    Glad to see someone agrees with me on this :)

    The JPP system is the main reason Jackpot Party isn't on my 'A list' of casinos, because everything else about them is spot on. I tend to just lob the odd £50 or £100 at them, and then leave the place alone for a while. It's a shame because their Bruce Lee slot is one my favourite slots of all time, but as a very high variance slot it can be an absolute killer with that 92% RTP on the base game.
     
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  20. Jun 23, 2012
  21. Zepher

    Zepher Experienced Member

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    I have to also say that I absolutely love JP's slots selection - They ( WMS ) have some of the most innovative games on the market, and they can keep you occupied for hours at a time. The 92% base ( + 3% Progressive ) RTP does suck extremely though, and with only betting small stakes its pretty obvious that you are not gonna hit the JPP often enough ( or at all ) to get anywhere near the 95% RTP that higher stakers get in the long run..

    Sigh, from a business perspective I can see why they are doing it ( gotta increase that revenue by 'bribing' players to stake more eh.. ), but from a small stakers perspective, it just hurts that we have to play with a largely different level of payback than someone staking more.

    Anyway.. just repeating myself again now, so I'll leave that at that for now..

    As for the games - I like Bruce Lee and Fortunes of the Caribbean too, but going through regular sessions of 200+ spins without a feature ( or with a feature, but a non-paying one.. ) can REALLY hurt the bankroll and morale.. So lately I usually avoid these MoneyBurst machines as the variance is an absolute killer.

    My regular game on there is Oz, which I love only for the 'Glinda Feature' which has on quite a few occasions given me nice megawins from filling 4 of the 5 reels with wilds. Though, when running cold, this slot can be an absolute money eating bitch too, bit like Bruce Lee - going through say 50 spins without even a win bigger than a return of your bet.

    I enjoy Plateau too, Black Knight, and Gusher ( had a couple nice hits from this one too ).

    I do play some of the other's, but tend to stick to those 4 mainly.

    Though now - I'm at the point where that extra 3% RTP is making a huge difference to my returns ( hence not getting the JPP ), so like you I now only tend to throw the odd £20-£50 at them and hope for the best. Its a shame though, cos if they were to somehow resolve this to make it fair to all players, it would be my regular site. The bonuses can be great, very simple and easy to fulfill, but in regards to that - The problem is that they don't tend to give out many bonuses besides the sign up bonus. Again, a shame..

    I love the site, and the games - But alas, my wallet doesn't agree.
     
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  22. Jun 23, 2012
  23. Jasminebed

    Jasminebed Closer to 100 than Birth

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    I tend to disagree that it's not a fair system. If you do hit at small stakes, the jackpots represent a much higher x bet size. And there are other prizes under those picks, so even if you don't hit a jackpot, you might get a higher x bet prize than a max bet player hitting the lowest jackpot.

    What I don't think is fair are games where you must play max bet to have any chance at the progressive, but they allow lower bets that contribute to the progressive pots. I don't play Jackpot Party casino, but I do see many such slots at my B&M.

    And even if the higher RTP is true for high rollers, they lose more dollars overall and have a greater value to the casino.

    That people with deeper pockets get better deals isn't just in the online world. So unless you want to scrap capitalism entirely, it's got it's own inherent fairness.

    If you don't feel the game gives good value at lower stakes, then either play at higher stakes, or chose another game.
     
  24. Jun 23, 2012
  25. ChopleyIOM

    ChopleyIOM Hearthstone Addict webby

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    This is true to an extent, but the high-rollers continually hit the low tier progressives so they're constantly reseeding to their default values, so even when the low-rollers do actually hit them, they're far smaller than they would be if 'natural odds' applied to the low-rollers winning them far more rarely.

    Indeed, and I've no doubt this is why Jackpot Party have it set up the way they do, but that doesn't make the experience of the low-rollers any better :)

    I disagree, there's nothing 'inherently fair' in a random game of chance whereby a high stakes player can effectively buy better returns than a low stakes player. After all, when one goes to a B&M casino to play roulette, the casino doesn't direct low-rollers to a special poverty player wheel with a few extra zeros on it.....

    Well by the sounds of it that's exactly what me and Zepher are doing :) (Choosing another game that is, or rather, another casino.)
     
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  26. Jun 26, 2012
  27. smcinoz

    smcinoz Experienced Member

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    Someone got lucky on 30p

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  28. Jun 26, 2012
  29. ChopleyIOM

    ChopleyIOM Hearthstone Addict webby

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    He's done a lot better than I managed!

    I also wonder what the base game pays at on these slots, we already know that of the 95% claimed RTP, 3% goes over to the normal progressives, and then with these extra progressives on top of that which have to be fed from the two new base games, if we assume another 3% there - that puts the base games down at a horrible 89% RTP!
     
  30. Jun 27, 2012
  31. ChopleyIOM

    ChopleyIOM Hearthstone Addict webby

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    I really don't like these two new slots, I'm hypothesising to an extent here, but I suspect the payout split is as I speculated above.

    We DO know for a fact that of the claimed 95% RTP the split is 92% base games and 3% Jackpot Party Progressives (this is for ALL Jackpot Party slots, not just the new Life of Luxury slots).

    The new Life of Luxury slots have their own progressives in addition to the standard JPPs, those progressives have to be fed from somewhere, and common sense dictates that has to be the two new Life of Luxury slots. Therefore these new progressives must be fed from the base games of the Life of Luxury slots.

    Even if the contribution is just 2%, that puts the base games down at a horrible 90%, if the contribution is 3% then we're into the realms of 89% RTP, which speaks for itself!

    I've had a couple of sessions on the new slots and what I suspected would happen, is indeed happening. The same high stakes players are constantly rinsing the OPAL and RUBY progressives, (these generally drop at £10-£15 and £20-£40 respectively). The EMERALD (seeds at £100) seems to hang on longer but still drops regularly. The SAPPHIRE and DIAMOND are a lot rarer.

    This doesn't mean that low stakes players can't get lucky (as we saw in the video above), but overall the low-rollers are going to get a 'double whammy' effect if they play the new Life of Luxury slots, they've got that '92% RTP effect' I detailed in my previous posts above, compounded by the same effect again on the Life of Luxury slots, to give them a long term experience that I suspect will settle down to something close to about 90% RTP!

    I should state for the record I have hit the OPAL progressive once, which was worth an amazing £8.92p! :D

    These new slots aren't for low-rollers like me I think, so I'll give them a miss and stick to other slots at Jackpot Party when I play there, as there are better options IMO.

    And just to finish on a positive comment, I was playing Jackpot Party's Bruce Lee slot last night (after giving up on the Life of Luxury slots), and had a nice little run that not only repaired all the damage the Life of Luxury slots had done for the session, but finished with a MEGA BIG WIN that enabled me to make a nice withdrawal at 1am in the morning - the money has appeared in my NETELLER account within the last half an hour, so that's an eight hour payout time.

    Jackpot Party are a great casino overall, it's just this whole 'mandatory progressive' thing they have going on that's never sat right with me - I do wish they'd give players the option to play straight 95% versions of their slots without the JPP contributions!
     
  32. Jun 27, 2012
  33. Nottsogreen

    Nottsogreen Experienced Member MM

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    AND ANOTHER THING !!!!!!

    Sorry for caps, but didnt want to shout !

    Played the new Life of Luxury games for a good few hours, with not great results.

    I was playing at the MAXIMUM allowed (£2.40 per spin) and had the following results


    Date Spins Wagers
    27/06/2012 234 £561.60
    26/06/2012 1217 £2,920.80
    25/06/2012 647 £1,496.40

    I also ended up down quite a bit, but a big win late on made most of it back up !


    SO (to my mind) a reasonable run (for the casino!) with the MAXIMUM ALLOWED wagering.

    Now, if i played at this level with (say) Club World, there would have been a $100+ chip in my account on the 26th, and probably a $50 or so the following day ? (As losses are usually "compensated" by free chips)

    Jackpot party give nothing.

    So LOYALTY POINTS i hear you shout ?

    Well, there is my issue. The wagering above generated a total of just under 500 points : Real value= less than £5. (& I cant redeem til i hit 1K)

    To generate a £10 loyalty bonus, you would have to wager £10,000 (I make that 0.1%). This is 10 X that at cluworld !

    Is this REALLY the poorest rewarding "loyalty" scheme out there or can anyone name worse ?
     
  34. Jul 1, 2012
  35. ChopleyIOM

    ChopleyIOM Hearthstone Addict webby

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    My video review/experience with these slots is now up on my channel.

    Usual rules apply, there are some swears in there.

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  36. Jul 1, 2012
  37. smcinoz

    smcinoz Experienced Member

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    save this latest vid for when i get home from work, always need a bit of a chuckle :thumbsup:
     

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