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JackMack vs iNetBet

Discussion in 'Online Casinos' started by JackMack, Jul 2, 2015.

    Jul 2, 2015
  1. JackMack

    JackMack Banned User - troll, flaming, being a dick

    Occupation:
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    Location:
    England
    Inetbet have to be the biggest bunch of cowboys in rogue town.

    After one amazing win from a small deposit months ago the only time i have hit any kind of decent wins is on bonus money and I'm talking thousands of spins and dollars wagering and hundreds upon hundreds in losses since that one and only cashout.
    It is so obvious that I can have over $100 with only two or three hundred left in wagering and still not make WR before busting playing 44c and 33c bets.
    Not like a one off but always lol.
    Better still I got a random disconnect this time and get back in and bam 45-55% RTP until bust. This is how it goes everytime, just sudden and complete shutdown where wilds and scatters and wins just disappear.

    Also this si the only casino where my screen will flicker and the reels reset - amazing.
    Basically they are changing RTP on the fly and they can deny it as much as they like but the facts are clear for me.

    I know RTG are well and truly dodgy (unnaturally streaky) but I always enjoyed their slots more than MG or Netent for some reason so even though Inetbet was my last remaining active RTG account I just can't justify spending another buck with such a shady company and software.

    Sure people will say it is just bad luck or whatever bla bla bla but there is something very wrong with this casino.

    Adios Inetbet you scammers.
     
  2. Jul 2, 2015
  3. GoldenGhoul

    GoldenGhoul Experienced Member

    Occupation:
    Freelancer, translator, IT
    Location:
    EU
    It is just bad luck, or whatever. Bla bla bla... :p

    In all seriousness, I always take those kind of posts with a grain of salt - people seem too eager to call a casino a scam just because they had a very bad run and can't accept it. That said, who knows, I never played there so perhaps others will have some valuable input.
     
  4. Jul 2, 2015
  5. dionysus

    dionysus can turn wine into water CAG MM

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    I realize it isn't what you want to hear, however...
    Any seasoned player here can tell you (along with reps, operators, admin etc) - (legit) casinos simply havent the capabilities to change RTP on the fly. They just can't. You can protest til cows come as they stare blankedly as your face turn blue, it won't alter the simple facts.
    Sorry you had a bad run, but I'm afraid that's all it is.
     
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  6. Jul 2, 2015
  7. dunover

    dunover Unofficial T&C's Editor CAG PABnononaccred PABnonaccred PABinit mm3 webmeister

    Occupation:
    International Money Launderer
    Location:
    the bus shelter, opposite GCHQ Benhall
    Well we know with RTG there's 3 maths/RTP models - 91,93 and 95% I believe. The lower the figure the more 'streaky' the payouts will be. But the casino cannot change the model on the fly, especially not just for one player! This is not only fantastic, but a serious accusation against them!

    Remember to visualize the RTP curve over the med-long term. You said yourself you had a massive spike so almost inevitably further play will reduce in comparison. You are duly awarded some metallic headgear. :)
     
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  8. Jul 2, 2015
  9. PaaskeDKnowUK

    PaaskeDKnowUK Always think positive CAG PABnoaccred webmeister

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    I don't like your post but will though agree fully in RTG is full of sh... :p I must admit after making lot of big wins almost every month this year on mainly microgaming and other software. Then when trying Inetbet Euro / RTG software then most times seems to swallow so quick. And not lot of playtime I feel on RTG casinos. There is def something not right but that is just my opinion others might disagree. As lot of people seems to hate Net Ent and Microgaming. But I feel these software providers are actually quite good and reasonable. :thumbsup:
     
  10. Jul 2, 2015
  11. dunover

    dunover Unofficial T&C's Editor CAG PABnononaccred PABnonaccred PABinit mm3 webmeister

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    People need to remember the huge difference RTP makes. MG/Netent are 95-97%.
    If you played RTG with the median RTP model of 93% your deposit would last about 2/3 of the spins on average that it would on MG/Netent;)
     
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  12. Jul 3, 2015
  13. goatwack

    goatwack enthused hangman CAG

    Occupation:
    Turns Tricks
    Location:
    Londonia
    Hey JackMack, you always struck me as a savvy kind of poster so I'm surprised at this unexpected outburst. We can all relate to that feeling of 'I'm pretty sure I'm due a good session by now', which is what most of us tell ourselves after repeated hammerings.

    I seriously haven't cashed out anything since Christmas and I gamble most days. I'm convinced my luck will turn at some point. Don't know / care what my current RTP stands at, it's kinda irrelevant over the lifecycle of millions of spins. I'm pretty certain I'd rather massage a leper than play any RTG software, due to their *relatively* low returns compared to what else is available to me as a player. I still insist I would give up online slots if RTG was my only playable option.

    The very first time I saw video slots my instinctive reaction was that these games are monitored/ controlled/ regulated and therefore able to be manipulated on the fly, much like the video games and computer scene I am into. After a few hefty wins and personal observations I know this isn't the case, just being on the right slot at the right time.

    We all have a bias towards remembering our greatest online hits and conveniently blocking out all the drudgery that is interspersed inbetween. I can remember pretty much recall ALL my greatest hits online, so selective memory coupled with rose- tinted glasses applies here.

    My number #1 pet hate is the inexplicable lead- ballooning of a healthy bankroll, it still gets me every time, but I know it can happen just as quickly the other way, often outta nowhere. I'm sure we've all seen our share of last gasp wonder hits. I've even been known to make up inventive new swearwords whilst bemoaning my luck, many unbroadcastable.

    I'm not going to tell you what you ought to play or whether you should take a break, that is your choice. Just bear in mind that 90% of sessions are destined to fail the moment you make that deposit. Just gotta take the rough with the smooth, and maybe play somewhere other than Inetbet for the time being if that is your 'bogey' casino at present. I mean you gotta start questioning yourself how many beatings you enjoy taking in a row. Just go back there another time, they're still going to be there for when you return next time! :oops:
     
  14. Jul 3, 2015
  15. Deeplay

    Deeplay New World Order CAG mm1 webmeister

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    The biG Eu
    Having a rant is one thing but calling a casino full of sh(((t and accusing them of being dishonest based on loosing is a bad call in my view.
    Sure they are those who do not like Inetbets way of doing things but they are not crooks. And can not change RTP as and when they wish. There is no magic switch. Also this bull of restarting your session through a time out of what ever has been brought up before. The slots have no memory. They do not care what your last bet was, when, or how much. Its only focus is the spin in hand. Sounds like you had a very bad session and looking for someone to blame. I personally dont play at Inet anymore as I dont like the software and no live support that Inet lack but I do not think they are dishonest. No casino needs to mess with the slots or use tricks. Its already built into the maths model to ensure that the casino will always come out on top in the long run.
     
  16. Jul 3, 2015
  17. hedgehok

    hedgehok Senior Member mm3

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    Germany
    I agree. The medium setting is usually 94-95% (You must register/login in order to see the link.).

    RTG is not only boring but also paying like sh*t. I can not share the sentiment of the OP however.
     
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  18. Jul 3, 2015
  19. suzecat

    suzecat Dormant account CAG MM webmeister

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    Sounds like you got screwed, or at least it looks like it!!
     
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  21. Casinomeister

    Casinomeister Forum Cheermeister Staff Member

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    I need to remind you that this is a community that we try to keep balanced and rational. Trollish insulting posts like this will not be tolerated. I'm sure you would take issue if iNetBet would be making the same sort of disrespectful rant post about you as a player. Infraction given.
     
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  22. Jul 3, 2015
  23. Batman

    Batman The Dark Knight MM

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    Nothing much
    Location:
    PokieLand
    :lolup: Conspiracy theories ... Love 'em...

    You really think that out of the ~500,000 customers they have, you're that important ?
    You think the casino will monitor your gameplay at the second? (not even possible)...
    Our of the ~5,000 customers that are playing at the same time with you, your 44c bets are the biggest ones that require monitoring? :))
    There are customers (high rollers) that deposit over $5,000 in ONE DEPOSIT, maybe 2-3 of these deposits / day!
    Think about it a little ... don't you think your post is a little silly now?

    The thing I love about is that the players that usually rant about these things are players that usually withdraw at these casinos on a regular basis.
    Some of them don't even deserve a point of view when it comes to casinos and losses (not saying the OP is one of them).

    I'm really sorry for your loss, but creating another conspiracy theory?
    Let's keep it at reptilians / illuminati and aliens, much more interesting subjects to discuss about...
     
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  24. Jul 3, 2015
  25. Borgie

    Borgie Senior Member

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    I'm really sorry for your loss, but creating another conspiracy theory?
    Let's keep it at reptilians / illuminati and aliens, much more interesting subjects to discuss about...[/QUOTE]


    Did not you know those lizards from "V" are real !! Honestly :eek2::D
     
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  26. Jul 3, 2015
  27. osulle

    osulle Ueber Meister CAG mm4 mm1

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    life
    Location:
    Northern hemisphere
    I have never had much luck with Inetbet:( I was convinced that they were using the lowest RTP setting so guess what??? I just stopped depositing there so problem solved for me.:p I do know that RTG casinos can have the RTP model changed for their casinos if they apply to RTG directly to do so and I have never been comfortable with that. Having said that if and that is a big if they do change RTP model it would be across the board.

    I know the online world can be very competitive but it would be nice if all RTG casinos would display on their sites which RTP model they were using. I know that can never happen though. Anyway it was pointed out years ago and remains true today, you can lose big or win big no matter which RTP setting the casino is using. It's just down to luck.

    Personally I have nothing against Inetbet and think that they are a fine casino. They just aren't for me:)
     
  28. Jul 3, 2015
  29. Batman

    Batman The Dark Knight MM

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    Nothing much
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    PokieLand
    As real as this picture?


    [​IMG]

    He's staring into your soul ! ! !
     

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