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It this normal?

Discussion in 'Other Complaints' started by Miss_Token, Jan 14, 2010.

    Jan 14, 2010
  1. Miss_Token

    Miss_Token Dormant account

    Occupation:
    journalist
    Location:
    en el fin del mundo...
    Hi everyone.
    First of all, please forgive me about my english. This is not my first language, but i will do my best :)

    I have 200 dls and i went to the goldbear slot machine. I was playing at 2 dolars/bet.
    This are the result:

    348444146 20 $2.00 $0.00 Goldbeard Base Game 1/13/2010 2:44:14 PM No
    348444153 20 $2.00 $0.00 Goldbeard Base Game 1/13/2010 2:44:18 PM No
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    348444173 20 $2.00 $0.00 Goldbeard Base Game 1/13/2010 2:44:29 PM No
    348444180 20 $2.00 $0.50 Goldbeard Base Game 1/13/2010 2:44:33 PM No
    348444187 20 $2.00 $1.50 Goldbeard Base Game 1/13/2010 2:44:36 PM No
    348444195 20 $2.00 $0.00 Goldbeard Base Game 1/13/2010 2:44:40 PM No
    348444201 20 $2.00 $0.60 Goldbeard Base Game 1/13/2010 2:44:44 PM No
    348444208 20 $2.00 $0.00 Goldbeard Base Game 1/13/2010 2:44:48 PM No
    348444216 20 $2.00 $0.00 Goldbeard Base Game 1/13/2010 2:44:52 PM No
    348444223 20 $2.00 $0.00 Goldbeard Base Game 1/13/2010 2:44:55 PM No
    348444231 20 $2.00 $0.00 Goldbeard Base Game 1/13/2010 2:44:59 PM No
    348444238 20 $2.00 $1.70 Goldbeard Base Game 1/13/2010 2:45:03 PM No
    348444246 20 $2.00 $1.00 Goldbeard Base Game 1/13/2010 2:45:07 PM No
    348444255 20 $2.00 $0.50 Goldbeard Base Game 1/13/2010 2:45:11 PM No
    348444263 20 $2.00 $1.00 Goldbeard Base Game 1/13/2010 2:45:15 PM No
    348444271 20 $2.00 $0.00 Goldbeard Base Game 1/13/2010 2:45:19 PM No
    348444277 20 $2.00 $5.20 Goldbeard Base Game 1/13/2010 2:45:22 PM No
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    348444310 20 $2.00 $0.00 Goldbeard Base Game 1/13/2010 2:45:46 PM No
    348444315 20 $2.00 $1.90 Goldbeard Base Game 1/13/2010 2:45:50 PM No
    348444321 20 $2.00 $0.00 Goldbeard Base Game 1/13/2010 2:45:53 PM No
    348444332 20 $2.00 $1.50 Goldbeard Base Game 1/13/2010 2:45:57 PM No
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    348444351 20 $2.00 $0.50 Goldbeard Base Game 1/13/2010 2:46:05 PM No
    348444360 20 $2.00 $4.40 Goldbeard Base Game 1/13/2010 2:46:09 PM No
    348444375 20 $2.00 $0.00 Goldbeard Base Game 1/13/2010 2:46:16 PM No
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    348444428 20 $2.00 $0.00 Goldbeard Base Game 1/13/2010 2:46:40 PM No
    348444438 20 $2.00 $0.50 Goldbeard Base Game 1/13/2010 2:46:44 PM No
    348444447 20 $2.00 $0.00 Goldbeard Base Game 1/13/2010 2:46:48 PM No
    348444458 20 $2.00 $0.50 Goldbeard Base Game 1/13/2010 2:46:51 PM No
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    348444471 20 $2.00 $0.00 Goldbeard Base Game 1/13/2010 2:46:59 PM No
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    348444493 20 $2.00 $0.00 Goldbeard Base Game 1/13/2010 2:47:10 PM No
    348444495 20 $2.00 $0.40 Goldbeard Base Game 1/13/2010 2:47:13 PM No
    348444501 20 $2.00 $3.00 Goldbeard Base Game 1/13/2010 2:47:17 PM No
    348444514 20 $2.00 $0.50 Goldbeard Base Game 1/13/2010 2:47:25 PM No
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    348444539 20 $2.00 $1.00 Goldbeard Base Game 1/13/2010 2:47:41 PM No
    348444544 20 $2.00 $0.00 Goldbeard Base Game 1/13/2010 2:47:45 PM No
    348444553 20 $2.00 $0.50 Goldbeard Base Game 1/13/2010 2:47:49 PM No
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    348444564 20 $2.00 $0.50 Goldbeard Base Game 1/13/2010 2:47:56 PM No
    348444570 20 $2.00 $2.00 Goldbeard Base Game 1/13/2010 2:48:00 PM No
    348444577 20 $2.00 $0.00 Goldbeard Base Game 1/13/2010 2:48:04 PM No
    348444582 20 $2.00 $5.00 Goldbeard Base Game 1/13/2010 2:48:08 PM No
    348444596 20 $2.00 $1.00 Goldbeard Base Game 1/13/2010 2:48:15 PM No
    348444604 20 $2.00 $0.00 Goldbeard Base Game 1/13/2010 2:48:19 PM No
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    348444689 20 $2.00 $0.20 Goldbeard Base Game 1/13/2010 2:49:09 PM No
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    348444709 20 $2.00 $2.20 Goldbeard Base Game 1/13/2010 2:49:20 PM No
    348444723 20 $2.00 $1.00 Goldbeard Base Game 1/13/2010 2:49:28 PM No
    348444730 20 $2.00 $0.50 Goldbeard Base Game 1/13/2010 2:49:32 PM No
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    348444783 20 $2.00 $0.50 Goldbeard Base Game 1/13/2010 2:49:55 PM No
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    348444802 20 $2.00 $0.00 Goldbeard Base Game 1/13/2010 2:50:08 PM No
    348444809 20 $2.00 $0.00 Goldbeard Base Game 1/13/2010 2:50:12 PM No
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    348444828 20 $2.00 $0.00 Goldbeard Base Game 1/13/2010 2:50:23 PM No
    348444834 20 $2.00 $1.90 Goldbeard Base Game 1/13/2010 2:50:26 PM No
    348444842 20 $2.00 $0.00 Goldbeard Base Game 1/13/2010 2:50:30 PM No
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    348444882 20 $2.00 $2.00 Goldbeard Base Game 1/13/2010 2:50:53 PM No
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    348444895 20 $2.00 $1.50 Goldbeard Base Game 1/13/2010 2:51:00 PM No
    348444901 20 $2.00 $0.00 Goldbeard Base Game 1/13/2010 2:51:05 PM No
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    348444920 20 $2.00 $0.50 Goldbeard Base Game 1/13/2010 2:51:16 PM No
    348444926 20 $2.00 $0.00 Goldbeard Base Game 1/13/2010 2:51:19 PM No
    348444935 20 $2.00 $0.00 Goldbeard Base Game 1/13/2010 2:51:24 PM No
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    348444942 20 $2.00 $0.00 Goldbeard Base Game 1/13/2010 2:51:32 PM No
    348444947 20 $2.00 $0.00 Goldbeard Base Game 1/13/2010 2:51:35 PM No
    348444952 20 $2.00 $0.00 Goldbeard Base Game 1/13/2010 2:51:39 PM No
    348444958 20 $2.00 $0.50 Goldbeard Base Game 1/13/2010 2:51:43 PM No
    348444964 20 $2.00 $0.00 Goldbeard Base Game 1/13/2010 2:51:46 PM No
    348444971 20 $2.00 $0.00 Goldbeard Base Game 1/13/2010 2:51:50 PM No
    348444978 20 $2.00 $0.00 Goldbeard Base Game 1/13/2010 2:51:54 PM No
    348444986 20 $2.00 $2.20 Goldbeard Base Game 1/13/2010 2:51:58 PM No
    348445002 20 $2.00 $0.40 Goldbeard Base Game 1/13/2010 2:52:05 PM No
    348445009 20 $2.00 $0.50 Goldbeard Base Game 1/13/2010 2:52:09 PM No
    348445016 20 $2.00 $0.00 Goldbeard Base Game 1/13/2010 2:52:13 PM No
    348445024 20 $2.00 $0.50 Goldbeard Base Game 1/13/2010 2:52:16 PM No
    348445031 20 $2.00 $0.00 Goldbeard Base Game 1/13/2010 2:52:20 PM No
    348445039 20 $2.00 $0.00 Goldbeard Base Game 1/13/2010 2:52:24 PM No
    348445047 20 $2.00 $0.00 Goldbeard Base Game 1/13/2010 2:52:28 PM No
    348445054 20 $2.00 $0.00 Goldbeard Base Game 1/13/2010 2:52:32 PM No
    348445069 20 $1.60 $0.00 Goldbeard Base Game 1/13/2010 2:52:40 PM No
    348446106 20 $0.20 $0.10 Goldbeard Base Game 1/13/2010 3:00:11 PM No
    348446113 20 $0.20 $0.00 Goldbeard Base Game 1/13/2010 3:00:12 PM No
    348446115 20 $0.20 $0.00 Goldbeard Base Game 1/13/2010 3:00:13 PM No
    348446119 20 $0.20 $0.00 Goldbeard Base Game 1/13/2010 3:00:14 PM No
    348446122 20 $0.20 $0.00 Goldbeard Base Game 1/13/2010 3:00:15 PM No
    348446126 20 $0.20 $0.00 Goldbeard Base Game 1/13/2010 3:00:16 PM No
    348446128 20 $0.20 $0.00 Goldbeard Base Game 1/13/2010 3:00:17 PM No
    348446130 20 $0.20 $0.00 Goldbeard Base Game 1/13/2010 3:00:18 PM No
    348446135 20 $0.20 $0.00 Goldbeard Base Game 1/13/2010 3:00:19 PM No
    348446145 18 $0.18 $0.00 Goldbeard Base Game 1/13/2010 3:00:24 PM No




    As you can see, i have never hit one feature (normal, i know) but i DINDT WON NOTHING MORE THAT 2X MY BET. Of course, i lost all my money in about 8 minutes.
    It this normal?
    Thanks...!
     
  2. Jan 14, 2010
  3. KasinoKing

    KasinoKing WebMeister & Slotaholic.. CAG MM PABnonaccred webmeister

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    Bexhill on sea, England
    Look again - there are actually THREE wins more than 2x your bet.
    No bonus rounds in 135 spins? Yep I would say that's pretty normal.
    The odds of hitting the bonus on Goldbeard is 1 in 120 spins, so you're not much past that.

    What is really intriguing though, is where did you get your play log from? :confused:
    I thought this wasn't available with RTG casinos!

    KK
     
  4. Jan 14, 2010
  5. WagerWitch

    WagerWitch Dormant account webmeister

    Occupation:
    Yeah - like - really? Hmmm do I have to work?
    Location:
    Alaska
    Gold Beard is VERY hard at times.

    Each game has a variance.

    If it is set at high variance - payouts are greater IF - and ONLY IF - you hit them...

    Lower variance has a higher playback rate... But less SUPER HIGH wins.

    But this is normal depending on which game you play - and which variance it is at.
     
  6. Jan 14, 2010
  7. rockycatt

    rockycatt meistercatt CAG MM

    Occupation:
    carpenter
    Location:
    Boston
    Are these rtg games [variances ] available to the players same as at 3 dice ?? ,
    i here so many comments on there variances weather rtg or rival are they
    published ??
    thanx R C
     
  8. Jan 14, 2010
  9. Miss_Token

    Miss_Token Dormant account

    Occupation:
    journalist
    Location:
    en el fin del mundo...
    Hi
    Ok, there is three wins...but thats a crap or not??
    I know that no bonus round in 135 is normal... but my complaint its about the payout...for me is a joke.
    About the play log they sending to me via email. I just ask for it.
     
  10. Jan 14, 2010
  11. WagerWitch

    WagerWitch Dormant account webmeister

    Occupation:
    Yeah - like - really? Hmmm do I have to work?
    Location:
    Alaska

    Variances are how ALL casino games work.

    It's the "pattern" - if you will of the mathematics that work.

    Now - it has not been determined yet - if Variances can be set by individual casinos (I believe it can be).

    And I do not know of ANY other casino that shares the variance "LEVELS" except for 3dice....

    UNLESS you consider MG's "HEAT levels" to be variance levels.
     
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  12. Jan 14, 2010
  13. DogBoy001

    DogBoy001 Senior Member webmeister

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    Managing Director
    Location:
    Great Southern Land
    Heya,

    Just to clarify, it's important to note that variance is a calculated value from the probability of achieving winning combinations versus that combinations prize, it is not a setting (i.e.: something that can be set by a casino and changed).

    RTP is a setting, but even between the highest and lowest available RTP setting the standard deviation barely moves (e.g.: SD of 12.15 vs 12.86).

    Woooof
     
  14. Jan 15, 2010
  15. WagerWitch

    WagerWitch Dormant account webmeister

    Occupation:
    Yeah - like - really? Hmmm do I have to work?
    Location:
    Alaska
    OK semantics woofboy... *grin*
     
    1 person likes this.
  16. Jan 15, 2010
  17. GGW Laurie

    GGW Laurie Dormant account webmeister

    Occupation:
    Self Employed
    Location:
    In the Beautiful South !!
    Gold beard is my favorite game to play and i can tell you its normal, i have gone more than 300 spins and no fearure betting 40 cents and then i have played on 10.00 and hit feature after feature, call it what you will, but i call it luck or lack of sometimes imo..............laurie
     

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