issuing a challenge to 32red/mg

[Alexishot69]

patrin

These %s are woeful if u r playing mostly slots..especially over extended periods..i could see the point in maybe just a couple of months but 80.03% over 2 years is shocking..youll find most casinos advetise 95%+ payouts so hmmm you can now see how good your stats are..

 

[wayram]

I'm not knocking 32red but i have not had a cash in since Feb this year and that was a small one of around 300. I play there more than regulary hoping that i might get a very good drop. Most times i put in 50 or 100 and sometimes it lasts a few days most times not. Tonight put in 50 played spring break @ 45 up to 1.35 and bang ....gone in notime...Last week put in 100 plus 150 bonus with 30 play through at Red Flush played for over a week met playthrough cashed in 800 left in 200 and eventually lost it..Tonight put in 50 played Spring Break @ 45 up to 1.35 and two hours later have still got 55..So maybe there is something in what you guys are saying about 32 red. When it is cold it is bloody freezing and it lasts and lasts.

 

[Rhyzz]

82% and 80% !!!!!

Crikey, I thought my 86% was bad at Inter. Anything less than 95% is just theft, i'd close your account because you will never recoup those losses, you're fighting a losing battle.

How operations are allowed to stay open with such poor payouts I will never know. The Marvel slots are a prime example of poor payouts. 92% I believe is the RTP which is criminal, Crypto are obviously struggling to pay for the license and so they drastically reduce the RTP to make more money

 

[patrina]

These %s are woeful if u r playing mostly slots..especially over extended periods..i could see the point in maybe just a couple of months but 80.03% over 2 years is shocking..youll find most casinos advetise 95%+ payouts so hmmm you can now see how good your stats are..

Hey Alex, yes I play frequently but I did stop playing at Dash for a while there, and went to 32 Red. But, also there have been many times when I could cash out at 32 Red and didn't, so my fault there. They really are the exception. I would like to see the other MG casinos come here to be challenged instead of 32 Red, but I guess that's where you play? Anyway, I am praying for a win, soon! Thanks for the reply alex, also Pat has explained to me what the percentages actually mean, so I'm not in the dark anymore. Anyway, here's to better luck soon! And next time I win anything, I am cashing out!!
Patrina

 

[Alexishot69]

yeah

Hey Alex, yes I play frequently but I did stop playing at Dash for a while there, and went to 32 Red. But, also there have been many times when I could cash out at 32 Red and didn't, so my fault there. They really are the exception. I would like to see the other MG casinos come here to be challenged instead of 32 Red, but I guess that's where you play? Anyway, I am praying for a win, soon! Thanks for the reply alex, also Pat has explained to me what the percentages actually mean, so I'm not in the dark anymore. Anyway, here's to better luck soon! And next time I win anything, I am cashing out!!
Patrina

I to be honest have named 32red but thats as you rightly point out only cos its the site i play..the real finger should be pointed at MG but the silence from them in any situation is deafening..and if i did lay the finger at 32reds door id like to say its really directed at MG..most of us who have posted in this thread believe something isnt right there and hasnt been for a while...as for cashouts patrina i just wish i was ever in that situation ive hardly ever been in front at all...lol

 

[RedKaos]

Here is the answer of the customer support about the ridiculous payout percentages of the slots in November: (I lost more than 2600 this month....)

Hi David,


"Thank you for your email.

I have reviewed your account and can see that the payout percentage for the month is 74 per cent which is certainly lower than we would like.

I can assure you, however, that the Slots haven't been tightened.

In light of your low payout for the month, I have credited your account with a discretionary bonus of 50.00.

I hope this brings some good luck!!!

If you need any further assistance please contact us at Player Support.

Kind regards

Sarah
Player Support Representative
32Red



............

 

[patrina]

Here is the answer of the customer support about the ridiculous payout percentages of the slots in November: (I lost more than 2600 this month....)

Hi David,


"Thank you for your email.

I have reviewed your account and can see that the payout percentage for the month is 74 per cent which is certainly lower than we would like.

I can assure you, however, that the Slots haven't been tightened.

In light of your low payout for the month, I have credited your account with a discretionary bonus of 50.00.

I hope this brings some good luck!!!

If you need any further assistance please contact us at Player Support.

Kind regards

Sarah
Player Support Representative
32Red



............

David, why so ? I think that was a vey generous credit. That is where 32 Red is the exception and I would like to see another casino give out credits like that. Your payout is not good, is that typical for all your play? Do you play other MG casinos? I would like to see the 'other' MG casinos come here as they are the ones I would have the most issues with, (but this isn't my thread either) 32 Red is the most generous casino around and their cs is bar none. Do you just play there? Or other MG's too? Thanks
Patrina

 

[Alexishot69]

Here is the answer of the customer support about the ridiculous payout percentages of the slots in November: (I lost more than 2600 this month....)

Hi David,


"Thank you for your email.

I have reviewed your account and can see that the payout percentage for the month is 74 per cent which is certainly lower than we would like.

I can assure you, however, that the Slots haven't been tightened.

In light of your low payout for the month, I have credited your account with a discretionary bonus of 50.00.

I hope this brings some good luck!!!

If you need any further assistance please contact us at Player Support.

Kind regards

Sarah
Player Support Representative
32Red



............

that must be surely one of the worst %s ive seen and yeah i agree with patrina 32red are good with freebies but gee 2600 euros in a month with a 74% payout is comical really and yet more for MG to try explain but will we hear this from the horses mouth? neve its left to 32 and other mgs to sort out the mess ..

 

[RedKaos]

32Red is by far the best MG casino operator.I wrote this thread with no intention to blame them of course but just for information.

I'll be back in December in the screenshots section....

 

[vinylweatherman]

32Red is by far the best MG casino operator.I wrote this thread with no intention to blame them of course but just for information.

I'll be back in December in the screenshots section....

Quite,

32Red's Pat is the ONLY MGS casino rep to have the B***s to even comment on this controversial topic. I find it hard to believe that no other MG casino rep has seen this thread.

It will take MGS to answer most of these questions, and the opportunity should arise towards the end of January

 

[Alexishot69]

and again

i am a mug another 50 deposit goes down the drain but hey i managed to get at one time 4 in front ..cmon pat theres just no getting away from it and im saying pat cos your the only guy who as vwm says has the guts to even respond from mg on here things are desperate at mg at the moment huh? heres a few stats for you to try and explain pat ok? total deposited inc bonuses is over 700 since august and withdrawls hmmm they equal 0..and this incidentally is the excellent cs at 32 btw,,,,
alexandra: hi i wonder if it would be possible for you to send me by email the latest % payou from the games i have played tonight?
Nicola: Please can i take your account number?
alexandra: P32RExxxxxxxx
Nicola: one moment please
Nicola: Can you explain what you mean
Nicola: payout percage as one for this evening
alexandra: yes i mean the % payout from the games i have played tonight<slots>
alexandra: no for each individual game..please
alexandra: i know its possible cos pat sent me them a few days ago but they seem to be getting lower and lower the %s

alexandra: and tonights is right up there with the worst of them by far
alexandra: if its also possible could you give me my total deposit and cashout stats please?

5 min lapse

alexandra: u still there?

10 min lapse

alexandra: excuse me are you still there please

10 min lapse

Nicola is reading your
message

alexandra: i hope u dont mind me saying but this is extremely ignorant to be totally ignored huh?


At this point ive gave up and decided to open another chatbox...

Nicola: Thank you for contacting us, alexandra. My name is Nicola, how can I help?
alexandra: hi nicola is it possible for you to answer me in the other chat at all ? 20 mnutes ive een waiting for a response

she then gives the excuse that the other chat timed out which is a joke to be honest and then tells me it will be a while before she can send these for me.....im sorry pat and i reiterate i only say pat cos well you know why...lol..mg are as tight as fort knox atm ....

incidentally wen i recieve my stats which may take a while ill post tem but i expect the payout t be in the low to mid 50s...

 

[patrina]

Hey gang, I have been away from the forum because I have been doing some spinning! Ok, so two nights ago, I cashed in some rubies and played my fav game jj, didn't do that great so changed over to Cherry Red, Cherry red kept me going for a little while, I played for a couple hrs and then went down. Last night I deposited and played a few different games, I went to my fav again and again, not so well, but I played around with 3-4 games and it started paying, I played at Double dose and Cherry Red and Moonshine, I got the bonus round on Moonshine and got all 16spins w/ 4x multiplier. That got me up quite a bit. I was up to $300 and played for a long time on this. Eventually, (my stupidity) I went down to $50 and cashed out, a great thing to add is that my withdrawal was in my Moneybookers today. So, I went back and went to Cherry Red again, got 3 red 7's and it paid out $100, I played a few other games too, Gypsy Queen, one spin gave me $65, anyway got up to $150 or so and played for quite a while but again out of stupidity went back to jj, and lost it. So, do you think it's the games we are playing? I pretty much play the same games, moonshine and jellyfish jaunt, but jj alot more. Since I have changed games, my luck has improved, do you think our stubborness is getting the best of us? I am going back now, I'l let you know how I do!! Good Luck all!!
Patrina

 

[Alexishot69]

just as expected

Recieved a reply back from 32red regarding the payout % of my play last night and as expected totally just well i dunno what to say...lol heres the email..

Hi alexandra

Thankyou for your recent contact,

As per your previous request i have reviewed your account and provided below your payout percentages for this evening.

Break da Bank = 81.93%
Ladies nite = 149%
No worries = 45%
Summertime = 58%


This was from nicola at 32red which i appreciate her sending me so quick<hence best cs> however what is worrying is i played very few games on ladies nite did a hit n run cos i know how volatile that can be and most of my lay was done on the last 2 for 100s of spins moreso summertime..now forgive me if i am wrong but these fall spectacularly short of what we as players expect when playing online slots no? i dont for one minute expect it to payout 95% for every spin but on an extended play for 100s of spins i have to say 45 + 58 %is well ill let the reader decide..im positive you know what i am meaning..these must surely to god show that something is way amiss at MG atm ...

 

[pinsnpies]

Alexishot69 have you tried playing at spin palace? Don't see why all the loyalty to 32red if their slots aren't paying squat tbh.

 

[KasinoKing]

Break da Bank = 81.93%
Ladies nite = 149%
No worries = 45%
Summertime = 58%


This was from nicola at 32red which i appreciate her sending me so quick<hence best cs> however what is worrying is i played very few games on ladies nite did a hit n run cos i know how volatile that can be and most of my lay was done on the last 2 for 100s of spins moreso summertime..now forgive me if i am wrong but these fall spectacularly short of what we as players expect when playing online slots no? i dont for one minute expect it to payout 95% for every spin but on an extended play for 100s of spins i have to say 45 + 58 %is well ill let the reader decide..im positive you know what i am meaning..these must surely to god show that something is way amiss at MG atm ...

Not being funny, but 100's of spins is not enough to judge the overall return with any sort of accuracy.
To get even close to 95% you would have to play 1000's.

I would rate Break your Bank & No Worries as very high variance - if you don't get a decent bonus feature, you're screwed.
Ladies & Summer are medium variance.

You need to decide what you want from your slot play; if you want lots of playing time & some fun for your money - play low variance slots.
If you want to make money - use bonuses & do more of those "Hit & Run's" like you did on Ladies Nite.
If you're going for the 'Big Hit' and don't mind blowing your stack in a 20-30 minutes - carry on as you are.

I hope you're taking advantage of that easy money from Ladbrokes I told you about - at least that will give you a bit more playing time.

For the record, my 32Red stats (overall):-
Sep: Wagered $2,090, Spins 2,456-ish, Lost $450, Return = 78.47% (Too many big spins on high variance slots)
Oct: Wagered $6,256, Spins 6,630-ish, Gained $300, Return = 104.8%
Nov: Wagered $3,180, Spins 4,073-ish, Lost $74, Return = 97.71%
(Note: Still playing November. All months are slots play only)

KK

 

[Alexishot69]

kk

Not being funny, but 100's of spins is not enough to judge the overall return with any sort of accuracy.
To get even close to 95% you would have to play 1000's.

I would rate Break your Bank & No Worries as very high variance - if you don't get a decent bonus feature, you're screwed.
Ladies & Summer are medium variance.

You need to decide what you want from your slot play; if you want lots of playing time & some fun for your money - play low variance slots.
If you want to make money - use bonuses & do more of those "Hit & Run's" like you did on Ladies Nite.
If you're going for the 'Big Hit' and don't mind blowing your stack in a 20-30 minutes - carry on as you are.

I hope you're taking advantage of that easy money from Ladbrokes I told you about - at least that will give you a bit more playing time.

For the record, my 32Red stats (overall):-
Sep: Wagered $2,090, Spins 2,456-ish, Lost $450, Return = 78.47% (Too many big spins on high variance slots)
Oct: Wagered $6,256, Spins 6,630-ish, Gained $300, Return = 104.8%
Nov: Wagered $3,180, Spins 4,073-ish, Lost $74, Return = 97.71%
(Note: Still playing November. All months are slots play only)

KK

kasinoking i totally see where your coming from ...i didnt mention earlier but i had an acct at laddies but my luck there was as bad as it is now at 32...i perhaps just need a total change of scenery although i did try a deposit at inetbet the other night and at least got some gameplay for my 40 but again never in front to make a w/d...i also take on board the 1000s of spins needed but at the sametime thats the reason im keeping playing is that i know its daft but surely there must be a half decent win due sometime...lol..i just dunno whats for the best wether to seek as i say pastures new or keep plugging awat hoping i hit that half decent win....thnx again for your input....alex x

 

[silcnlayc]

Alexishot69, I am an impatient player and want that hit quickly but my husband is the one that can drag out $20 bucks for HOURS whereas I can blow a $100 in minutes..

I am taking a page from his play and trying to slow down mine and depositing only 30-40 dollars at a time now...he actually withdraws almost more than me in the 100's by playing his way..starting real low 20-40 cents then to $1 a spin..

Maybe this will help in figuring out your play style to make it more enjoyable for you...I know I was frustrated for a while until he said to slow down, take my time...knowing I like to hit and run, win or lose..slowing down is very difficult for me but I am doing it and I am withdrawing more often now..

I do fall of the wagon but I then stop, knowing slow is the way to go..

Hopefully this helps..it did me

 

[mercy]

i am a mug

You are a fool parting with your money my friend.

 

[Alexishot69]

yeah

You are a fool parting with your money my friend.

You could be right mercy..but i do it for fun and always have but really just isnt as much fun as it used to be and i been playing for a good few years..i remember the days i could deposit some cash and have a lot of fun and once in a while maybe cashout...

 

[mercy]

You could be right mercy..but i do it for fun and always have but really just isnt as much fun as it used to be and i been playing for a good few years..i remember the days i could deposit some cash and have a lot of fun and once in a while maybe cashout...

I glad that you have taken my qoute as tongue and cheek as I had intended, but yes the good old days are gone.

 

[Alexishot69]

And

I glad that you have taken my qoute as tongue and cheek as I had intended, but yes the good old days are gone.

That sums up the whole point of this thread mercy "THINGS HAVE CHANGED" and even a blindman can see it ..i guess its one of these things in life we will never ever know though ...

 

[mercy]

That sums up the whole point of this thread mercy "THINGS HAVE CHANGED" and even a blindman can see it ..i guess its one of these things in life we will never ever know though ...

I'm not blind and I'm not a man but................. The payouts suck as of late.

Here's my take.

Most casino's have a certain payout percentage of say 95%. Well, that derives from of say 100.000 a month of deposits, thus the casino gets 5000.00.

I truly believe with the advent of the Uigea the deposits has decreased by over 50% at most casino's, it takes twice as long for a casino to reach their percentage of deposits per withdrawals.

That being said,I feel that is why we are seeing less and less screenshots and players complaining of less wins.

The more people who play, the increased chancing you have at winning.

 

[patrina]

Alex, so here's my take on everything, when you get up there at all, cash out. The games can be tricky. I played Moonshine got the bonus round and got a good hit at $137 then it kept me going for a bit was up to $200 and then played for quite a while and went down some, changed games and did ok at Gypsy Queen, got the bonus round a few times, and the last few times I got the bonus round at GQ, it only paid $8 and $12, so I left and went to a few other games, then went back to Moonshine, got up again to about $150, then started going down, not right away, but I went down to $100, it 'looked' like the bonus round was coming but it didn't so went to Jellyfish and didn't do so great, ended up cashing out at $70. So, when we can we have to cash out and we can't chase a bonus and we have to realize although it may look like it's coming, we can't hold our breath. From my experiences some games pay better then others, Moonshine pays better then any game I've played (on a consisitent basis) I am out now for a bit. Good luck and tty all later
Patrina

 

[pinsnpies]

The challenge is knowing when to cash out when you win. I always cash out when I quadruple my deposit. 1 maximum bets and I rarely play 25 to 50 liners.

Say I deposit 25 and reach 125, i'll withdraw 100 and leave the 25 there for a couple of days to come back and play with another time. There is nothing worse than lying in bed and thinking "I should have cashed out that 100 winnings I blew trying to win more. We have all been there I know.

100 might not seem like a lot but trust me it all adds up.

Last Month I gave 600 of winnings back to the casino trying to win more and I always feel like crap. Also I NEVER reverse withdrawals. Cuz once it all goes, you feel rotten.

 

[mercy]

Don't Patrina, I was being sarcastic, too much to drink tonight.

Accept my apology and the derail.