First of all, I agree with Daera and Rob and Jod.....yes, Nash is cryptic. And it takes some patience to dig and get at what he is trying to say. I know it's frustrating, and thanks you guys for hanging in there.
I wish he had just come in here and given a chronological list of events/winnings/cashouts, etc. and how each was handled. Would have made it alot easier. But not everyone has the same posting capabilities, and the ability to get their point across. I think we can agree that even the most savvy of us have had problems at times.
Second, I don't think Nash will be back to this thread, or any other. The 3Dice thread in Online Casinos may provide you a clue, and beyond that, can't really say anything.
In re: the blue parts of your post Rob, where you highlighted the fact that Nash said it had all worked as promised, etc. Those are from August of 2008. John's original promises were on a 40K win and subsequent withdrawals made in April of 2008, four months before Nash posted that all had gone well. I'm pretty sure those are referring to a win in August, not the 40K win in April....although the amounts were similar. I am NOT positive of that, but he does mention having two wins of approximately 40K....so that leads me to believe that the first one did not go as promised (April), but the second one did (August).
There are also posts in the WS thread from November of 2008, where he won another 19K, and again, all went as promised. The full amount was flushed and removed from his casino account as per his request.
It was after this, on December 20 or 21st of 2008....that he won the progressive, and again when the problems started. From my understanding, this amount was not removed from his account (someone can correct me if I'm wrong ie. Rival, whoever.....I'm just going on what I have). In any event, he was not paid, and got frustrated to the point of saying "fuck it" and played it all back. It was after this he closed his accounts at all Rivals, posted a few times about progressive payouts at Rivals, the conflicting info being given, the payment schedule not being adhered to, etc. This is also about the time he left the forum. This last time should never have happened. If they had adhered to the agreement they had made with Nash two times previously (40K win in Aug '08 and 19K win in Nov '08)....there should have been zero problems with him getting his 40K plus progressive win.
Regardless if it was in their T&C's or not, that 40K progressive payment should have been sent to him in one lump sum payment. That is the PROPER way to do business, the ethical way. No excuse for them to do otherwise. And anyone who plays a progressive at any Rival besides Slotocash, and who is aware of this thread, is a fool.
All that being said, Nash should never have played back that money, any of it. I would have fought them tooth and nail....regardless if it were 4K or 40K. I would have filed a PAB, I would have, started a thread, I would have sued them myself (being in Canada like them). They are extremely lucky that they were dealing with him and that it wasn't my money they were dicking me around over.
I asked for this thread precisely for the reasons you guys have mentioned....that Nash is cryptic, and I thought it better to at least "try" and hash it out and get to the bottom of it, rather than trying to decipher bits and pieces of his posts from half a dozen different Rival threads.
Given the fact that I'm pretty sure he won't be back, this will probably be my last post in this thread. I'm not his self-proclaimed advocate, I just want the truth, that's all. And with everything else that has gone on with Rival the last year or so (pending lawsuit, on and off payment delays, blanket bonus banning, lowered w/d limits for some players, Nash's issues, and that stupid Irish Luck/progressive shit they tried to pull).....all it has done is reinforced my original opinion that this is truly one of the most deceitful and unethical companies in online gaming. Their whole business (to me) is smoke and mirrors. I wouldn't play there with Monopoly money.
Just wanted to add....Rob, I understand you adding balance to the thread and appreciate you posting those other posts from August of 2008. I wasn't aware of them originally.....and it highlights perfectly why sometimes it is a good thing to have differing views. For balance, and to ensure that the full story does come out.