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islamist extremists

Discussion in 'The Attic' started by max1mike, Sep 19, 2012.

    Sep 19, 2012
  1. max1mike

    max1mike Dormant account

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    while all the middle east extremists are busy burning flags and effigies, does it occur to them that the average American, who couldn't find egypt on a map, are flipping past the news to watch honey boo boo, eating another cheeto, and really not giving a shit??
     
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  2. Sep 19, 2012
  3. chayton

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    On 9/11 I remember walking around kind of in shock, everywhere that we went had their tv on and everyone was glued to the news. Even places that didn't normally have tvs brought them in for about a week so people could see what was going on. There was this one restaurant we went to and this woman came in and grabbed the remote control and started flipping through channels to find something she liked better, and she settled on some channel showing a rerun of Jerry Springer. Seriously.....I was going to go over there and punch her in the face.
     
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  5. dionysus

    dionysus can turn wine into water CAG MM

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    wellllll, they got YOU to post and draw attention to it; guess it worked ;)
     
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  7. dionysus

    dionysus can turn wine into water CAG MM

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    I was actually in a bar overseas. An American screamed out what happened. Truthfully, we kinda paused and said 'shitty' or something or other and went back to our party. I'm not saying it wasn't a tragedy, but there's tragedies every day somewhere and we weren't American
     
  8. Sep 19, 2012
  9. harrys99

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    I'd like to know why the lame stream media aren't reporting about the rape of Ambassador Stevens and why they are actually clinging to the absurd notion that a ridiculous video is supposedly responsible for something that was obviously pre-planned.

    Would be nice to have some random acts of real journalism.

    November 6th can't come fast enough.
     
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  10. Sep 20, 2012
  11. max1mike

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    won't help. we're up against more of the same, no matter which moron wins. remember, the lesser of two evils is still evil.
     
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  13. max1mike

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    yeah, I guess it did. and I'm sure it got the attention of our miltary as well. when we find out who was responsible for the murders (and we will), they will get their 72 virgins awfully quick. guarantee there will be some kind of military response... (its election season)
     
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  15. harrys99

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    Trust me I "get" that. I'm going with the optimistic view that the lesser of 2 evils is still an improvement.

    I hope the military finds and deals with those responsible.
     
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  17. vinylweatherman

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    I had not even heard of this video until there was mass murder over it. It seems it was an obscure Youtube video from an unknown source, yet it got blamed on America, and the reaction was to select Americans at random and have them maimed or murdered. Surely this ensures the insulting video will be seen by many more people who will want to know why it is SO bad it justifies such actions. It seems a minority are forever looking for an excuse, and will leap on anything they find, and they must have gone to considerable effort to find this.

    It is also ironic that Youtube merely blocked India from viewing it, yet dare post a clip from Family Guy, and Youtube are all over such "dangerous and provocative material":rolleyes: Given that this video incited mass murder, I would have expected Youtube to have removed it on the grounds of it being highly offensive to a significant portion of the world's population.

    We have always been told that it is this distorted set of values that causes "the West" to be seen as the "Devil's kingdom", even by some US churches. I don't recall Muslims insulting Jesus by making videos about him, but it seems "Christian" countries allow this to happen, and say "so what, turn the other cheek". This is a fundamental cultural difference between West and East when it comes to reacting to an attack on the fundamentals of their beliefs. There are some Christian churches in the US that are as extremist as the Islamic fundamentalists, even though they differ in how they approach it. One such US sect has gatecrashed the funerals of US troops killed in action, claiming they "deserved it" because of their decadent ways, mainly allowing "fags" to join the army, rather than putting them to death. This has enraged most, if not all, Americans who are not members of this sect, which seems to be mostly one extended family headed by a "preacher". They have been on UK TV, and TWICE, because of the extreme nature of their beliefs.
     
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  19. Nifty29

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    The morons who are taking action "against the video" in the "name of Islam" are just common-or-garden thugs using any excuse to incite violence.....the video didn't incite the violence, the extremist agitators did.

    I don't see cartoons depicting crosses or Jesus being taken down, and neither should they be. In the "Western World", we believe in some form of free speech. As long as someone isn't making fun of someone personally, then I don't see the problem. Religion is and always has been a divisive issue and many people around the world think it's a crock of crap....and they are entitled to express that opinion AFAIC.

    The "do-gooders" and "PC" people need to take their blinkers off and realize that these Islamic fundamentalists have an agenda to attempt to control the entire planet, and force their caveman-style "justice" and religious law down everyone's throat.....using whatever means necessary. The IF don't respect OUR religious views, laws, or lifestyle...and yet they expect US to respect and embrace THEIRS.....it's a joke. IMO, any form of religion that condones pack rape, stoning, and revenge killings as a form of punishment has no place in human society. The moderate Muslims have to do more to oppose these madmen, lest the divide become even deeper to the point where Muslims in Western society are feared and segregated socially as a matter of course.
     
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  21. dionysus

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    Just as an aside, there ARE Western religions and governments that condone capital punishment (let's be honest and call it revenge killing), Christian divisions which do not tolerate dissenting views, have an eye for an eye viewpoint, and shovel their religions down out throats via most channels as well as having their own.. This isn't just a middle eastern mentality. South Park (for most intents and purposes, a 'cartoon'takes religious potshots (ours and theirs), classic Bugs Bunny is full of racial stereotypes, (still running). In many ways we (some of us) don't veer too far on close inspection.
     
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  23. Casinomeister

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    I saw an interesting comment from Bernard-Henri Lévy, a French journalist/philosopher, “The right to blasphemy is a core, key point of freedom.”

    The idiots rioting are primitive feeble minded people upset at a cartoon - like a bunch of spoiled school children, I don't see them rioting over the way they treat their women (50% of their population). To me that is far more repulsive, offensive, and inexcusable.

    So they find it insulting against their religion. So what? I'm sure a lot of fundamentalist Christians found Monty Python's "Life of Brian" blasphemous. To me it was pretty damn funny.

    These people need to grow some thicker skin and quit acting like a bunch of frightened babies who turn to violent acts whenever they don't like a shift in the wind. But what can you expect from people who are still stuck in the 14th century.
     
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  25. dionysus

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    lol, well, we still DO have our share of 14th century mentalities as well; book and movie burnings/bannings, video game boycotts..we organize and fan the flames for things we don't like. Our women still yet don't make a salary equal to a man's. We have have gotten 'further' but we haven't yet gotten there either. Our own closets might be a little more (en)lightened, but it's still pretty dark (ages) in there.
     
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  27. Nifty29

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    IMO, comparing book burnings and video game boycotts I.e. peaceful protests to bombings, mass murder and terrorism is like comparing a tap on the hand with being run over by a steam roller.

    No, we are not perfect, but at least women are allowed to speak, have careers, and actually ATTEND their houses of worship. Any religion that excludes women from their worship services is Neanderthal. Some god Allah must be.....but then it is a man-made rule, like no woman catholic priests, since God/Allah has never actually appeared to tell us in person. Islam in many areas of the world is just a method of controlling the population, and for the men to keep control over their slaves....oops I mean women.
     
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  29. Casinomeister

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    When you mean "we", please don't include me. :D I find all of those things unnecessary and abhorrent.
     
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  31. dionysus

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    Yes, but we're not exactly enlightened. We have made further strides, but recent ones. It's a tad hypocritical judging what we once pretty much did not so very long ago, historically speaking. Is it wrong? By mine and likely your viewpoint, yes. But like your steamroller anology, it's rather like acting smug because I learned something this semester and the other kid a year behind hasn't yet. It's 'new' knowledge, not exactly eons of belief. Given a few generations, who's to say 'they' won't believe what 'we' do now. Our women were once pretty much chattel to be bartered or traded, and not very long ago; current religions have plenty of stipulations. Many female cardinals running around? Popes? Book burnings the same? No. We aren't many generations from gas chambers, cross-burnings, electric chairs ...oh, wait, there's still those. And plenty 'westerners' see our wars as mass murders, and while women may have made leaps and bounds, ask an African American how far back equality goes. Homosexuals...well, bet not too many says, oh, we've all the rights of women
     
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  33. dionysus

    dionysus can turn wine into water CAG MM

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    There's a we inclusive and a we exclusive.
     
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    Exactly!!! :thumbsup:
     
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  37. skiny

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    Just like anyone, they have a right to be offended but when a religion that preaches peace and forgiveness is defended with riots, arson and murder I have no sympathy.
     
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    "First, I will tell you that based on the briefings I have had, I've come to the opposite conclusion and agree with the president of Libya that this was a premeditated, planned attack that was associated with the date of 9/11, the anniversary of 9/11," she said. "I just don't think that people come to protests equipped with RPGs and other heavy weapons. And the reports of complicity -- and they are many -- with the Libyan guards who were assigned to guard the consulate also suggest to me that this was premeditated."
     
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