Is This Really A Possibility?

[BMWSTACK]

Thanks BMW I just read the forum. All I can say is consider the source. She would not be a person I would listen to when it comes to these matters. That's the thing I hate about 3dice forum. Emotions and math never add up. Lol

Ok, I wouldn't listen to anyone with some of these crazier theories, and I do see that person is a banned member here.

Yes the "vent your frustration" thread is like a Jerry Springer episode, very entertaining though.

 

[dunover]

Right, I'm getting through so much tin foil this week there's shortly going to be a worldwide commodity price hike....

Firstly, we know that platform software supplied to the casinos by third parties is fixed in TRTP and gameplay, excepting RTG's '3 choices' software.

Next; Imagine a land mechanical slot - fixed physical reels, and separate stops that produce a 95% TRTP. For that to be adjusted, the reels would have to be changed via more/less symbols of one kind or another, a complex operation as the paytables would presumably remain fixed.

OK, this exact same slot above but online: For speed and effect separate reel-stops aren't necessary - the RNG picks an outcome from the pool and a subsequent graphic reflects this. The reel strips and paytables are exactly the same, as is the 95% RTP. I know some don't agree with me here, but most players accept that this is why the reel graphics seem 'gimped' on most software, especially WMS and 3Dice. It's because a win value is selected, then a graphic is produced to represent ANY reel combination that can produce that particular outcome.

Now, we want to change this ONLINE version from 95% to 90% RTP. The beauty of online slots is that NO adjustment to the reel-strips would therefore be necessary - simply the 'pool' of outcomes is tweaked to produce more low-return or zero results. The RNG works exactly the same, but in the long term will only produce a 90% RTP.

In computer program terms this would be easy, simply making a small edit in one line of master code.

So, to answer Weesies point, is it possible? Yes, absolutely. And possible to enact for the whole game or just one person's pool of values? Yes, easily.

Now the moot point is that 99% of sites rely on fixed 3rd. party software which is independently verified, so it would not be an option for the casino to adjust it, but only to choose a tighter/looser pool for their games in the case of RTG. The other softwares don't offer the RTG choice.
However, in the case of a site offering it's own bespoke software i.e. 3dice then the chance is there. (I use this example because 3dice springs to mind as a rare site that uses and offers it's own bespoke games and there is no insinuation that this impeccable operation has or would do such a thing!)

IF a site did this if it could, then it would be in breach of every licence and software verification going and would be licensed in bandit-country.

So, possible? Very. Does it actually go on? I'd hate to see it proven.

 

[weesie]

Thank you dunover,

I knew I could count on you when it comes to "tin foil hat" theories.

I don't KNOW the person personally, but I had to ask out of curiosity!

So, are you selling much "tin foil hat" stock these days?

Maybe I should invest.

 

[dunover]

Thank you dunover,

I knew I could count on you when it comes to "tin foil hat" theories.

I don't KNOW the person personally, but I had to ask out of curiosity!

So, are you selling much "tin foil hat" stock these days?

Maybe I should invest.

In this case though I felt compelled to dispel this type of foil hat-talk. It takes over 5 square yards of foil to make one hat, and that's without antenna. Go figure.

 

[john39]

Reminds me of when people say they do not want to use there player cards at land based casinos thinking that the payback % can be somehow tied to there card

 

[cpdnd31]

You know this thread brings up some good points.

A: The benefits of big casino brands.

1. With major brands you know there is a set of standards that all have to abide by. Yes there is rouge out there but for the most part, when playing at a major brand casino you know that the software is tested and monitored by a 3rd party. (or individual party )

2. With major brands you can play a game at different casinos like RTG for example: Club world, Tops and Inet bet. The same game may pay better at one of the 3 casinos. However you can tell if game is off because the game can be played at different places. You have a choice.

3. Big brand = big brother watching- (does knowing there is someone watching and or monitoring game pays and rtp settings make you feel better about playing there?)


B: Independent casino:

1. They own there own software.
2. They have standards set however who sets them and monitors them?
3. They have games audited, but is it a one time OK the game passes set standards, or is it a continual thing?
4. Smaller casino where they learn you name and they know how you deposit and play. Does this make a difference to you?


Now I'm not just talking about 3 dice. There are other independent casino brands out there-- Like Liberty slots, Slotland, bodog, and others.

So now I guess the ? is at least for me which do you prefer a major brand that has to follow guide lines. A smaller brand that has built a reputation.

Do you think one is better then the other. Do you hold a loyalty to the one who knows you by name because it is more intimate of a setting?

Is there a difference between major and independent for we have all read the tin foil hat theories on major brands and independent brands.

Any thoughts?

 

[weesie]

All very good questions. That person is still saying it's possible. They even said to check at CM because they can explain it better.

Anyway..... you get where I am cpdnd31.

Just wondered

 

[rena35]

this whole thread is great and very informative. I m so glad this question was asked here because i too wondered the same thing as a rather new depositor at 3 dice. I do not have the honor of being a player there since the beginning so i am still learning.I wish the un said person could read this thread but unfortunately he or she is banned. I would love to see their response.

 

[cpdnd31]

copy and paste!

 

[blonde]

Let me put my two cents in, not worth much I know but here goes....first of all someone that is "reporting live" from somewhere, why in hades would anyone listen to what their "perspective" on 3dice is?

Second of all, refer to my first of all statement, I am lost for words LOL

 

[Dinahnana]

So it's possible, just not probable.

 

[Casinomeister]

So it's possible, just not probable.

Possible to do what?

 

[dunover]

Possible to do what?

Weesie started the thread quoting a foil hatter from another forum: "Is it possible for the casino to 'tweak' payouts higher for a new player to entice them?" If you have bespoke software, yes it is possible. Most things are possible.

The gist I get was a player on 3dice was having a kind of breakdown on their chat, presumably because they won then lost later on.

So, possible, but extremely unlikely and especially so in the case of 3dice....